Mango vs iPhone 4S

[someone3974]

Excellent

Thanks for your idea, excellent I think. Very detail and quite persuasive

 

[ROCOAFZ]

reading emails on my iPhone is very annoying.

The words are often way too small. Zooming in makes the works bigger, but the lines don't auto wrap, so I need to contanstly scroll left to right.

If there is a way to make emails more readable, with iOS, please post.

If I recall correctly, Mango automatically adjustst the emails. If this is not true, please post. I plan to check this tomorrow.

Scrolling - the faster you flick Windows Phone, the faster it scrolls and after each flick it slowly slows down until you flick again. Just tested on Titan (hadn't really noticed before and had to find a page long enough to require it)

Email - When you open, landscape or portrait always has a small margin left and right and almost fills screen. Double tap makes the margins go away zooms the email slightly. It does not however word wrap when you pinch to zoom. The text can then go off the screen. Also system messages such as Internet pictures are blocked do not zoom. Only the content of the email.

 

[vetvito]

If someone using iOS and yahoo mail can confirm that push email works for their yahoo account on iOS, I will add this to iPhone advantages. However, if someone using Mango can get push email to work for Yahoo, then I won't. I'll wait a couple days for resonses before updating.

I thought you had to pay for Yahoo push email, on any OS?


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[vetvito]

Scrolling - the faster you flick Windows Phone, the faster it scrolls and after each flick it slowly slows down until you flick again. Just tested on Titan (hadn't really noticed before and had to find a page long enough to require it)

He is referring to jump to top and jump to bottom, I think.

Also, scrolling on WP is timed, it won't go as fast as you flick it. It has a set speed. Meaning no matter how fast you flick, it will only go a certain speed.


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[red12355]

If someone using iOS and yahoo mail can confirm that push email works for their yahoo account on iOS, I will add this to iPhone advantages. However, if someone using Mango can get push email to work for Yahoo, then I won't. I'll wait a couple days for resonses before updating.

The strange thing is that push works my other email accounts (Windows Live and Gmail). There's just no "update as items arrive" option in the Yahoo mail options, even though it's there for the other accounts.

 

[xzevious]

Fast Scrolling

I don't know what that means in iPhone terms, does it increase the max scroll speed by some factor if you flick again within a certain time period? If so that's probably patentable (and patented). I did try longpage.com on my HD7 and it appears that the way WP7 scrolling works on long pages is that it has a top speed where additional flicks don't seem to increase it, however it is still gesture speed sensitive so that if you flick slower the top speed for that gesture is slower and then the taper off effect is applied.

I'm not sure (again having not used the iPhone for a similar test) that this is squarely a benefit since I don't know how often the average person would run into a page this long so to me it seems that it was more of a choice probably made by an R&D team on where to max out. Does this require multiple flicks to engage or is it just the faster you flick the faster it goes? Can you disable or adjust this in IOS to get a consistent speed? Say you're trying to find something and you're scanning through the page rather than trying to get to a known place on the page, does it know what your intent is somehow and could you explain?

Granted that's my personal criteria for it being a feature (being able to disable or adjust it in this case to my personal preference) otherwise it's just one speed setting versus another.

 

[Buckylastard]

I don't know what that means in iPhone terms, does it increase the max scroll speed by some factor if you flick again within a certain time period? If so that's probably patentable (and patented). I did try longpage.com on my HD7 and it appears that the way WP7 scrolling works on long pages is that it has a top speed where additional flicks don't seem to increase it, however it is still gesture speed sensitive so that if you flick slower the top speed for that gesture is slower and then the taper off effect is applied.

On wp7, the scrolling speed depends on your flick movement and speed. And this is fixed. If you make a large and speedy flick movement, it will obviously scroll a bit more. But on a long page, you would have to do this movement over and over again.

On the iPhone. You can scroll normally, but also with increased momentum. Scrolling normally would be like how you would normally browse through a page. And if you want to scroll very fast, you just scroll a few times in a quick succession. The momentum will increase after each succession until the page reaches the bottom, or when you stop flicking. This system works very intuitive and does not need an on/off button as the user is the one who decides when to fast scroll. Furthermore, the "jump to top" by touching the status bar is very convenient too.

With my iPhone, I have the issue where it rotates while reading things in bed. It is annoying since you want it to lock since your head is sideways. If you can post how to lock it with the iPhone, I'll add it as an advantage. Unless someone posts how to do it with Mango.

I thought Windows 7 had fast scrolling. Someone please confirm or deny.

"I thought Windows 7 had fast scrolling. Someone please confirm or deny"

As I explained it above. WP7 does not have the same fast scrolling. It just registers a larger flicking movement.

And iPhone has rotation lock. (On iOS 4 and up I believe) Double press the home button to get the multitask bar. Flick to the right (left bar screen) to see your volume controls. Next to the volume control, there is a button with a circular arrow. That is your rotation lock.

 

[red12355]

Found another advantage for iOS:

iOS lets you adjust "media" and "ringer" volumes separately. WP7 lumps them together, which means if you have sensitive headphones and have to turn the volume down, it'll the ringer will also be quiet when someone calls.

 

[ROCOAFZ]

Not sure if the Iphone does this but Windows phone has voice announce. It has the option to say the name of the person that's calling. To try this...

To turn on Speech for accessibility, tap Settings > Ease of access, and then turn on Speech for phone accessibility. This enables the following:
Talking caller ID for phone calls. When you get a call, your phone will announce the name or number of the caller.

Also voice tell me can open apps. Siri cannot. Example hold windows key, say start Flashlight. (the flashlight app starts and turns on because it's set to turn on when the app loads). Use that a lot when getting my keys out in the dark. opening apps with voice does not require data.

Tellme can also reply to texts without touching the phone. Under speech change read outload incoming texts to always on unless you want it only in a bluetooth enabled car or headset (wired also) This is great when i'm walking my dog because i don't have to get the phone out to answer a text. I can be listening to music and it will pause it and say who is texting and ask me if i want it read. Then i can say the reply and tell it to send. All via the mic.
To have your phone announce and read incoming text messages, tap Settings > Speech, and then turn on Play audio confirmations. Tap Read aloud incoming text messages, and then choose when you want to hear the announcements—all the time, or only when using a Bluetooth and/or a wired headset.
When your phone announces an incoming text, you can say "Read it" or "Ignore." Then you can dictate and send a reply.

 

[Buckylastard]

Another plus for iOS.

I found out the other day that iPhone has a notification light. You can turn it on in the accessibility menu. The LED light will blink a few times when you receive a message or call.

 

[anseio]

Another plus for iOS.

I found out the other day that iPhone has a notification light. You can turn it on in the accessibility menu. The LED light will blink a few times when you receive a message or call.

I believe WP7's lack of notification lights is a hardware limitation. I've got a Lumia 800 (no notification light) and an HTC HD2, which does have a functioning notification light with my Mango ROM.

 

[vetvito]

I believe WP7's lack of notification lights is a hardware limitation. I've got a Lumia 800 (no notification light) and an HTC HD2, which does have a functioning notification light with my Mango ROM.

Nah its a OS limitation. On the HD7 it only blinks for missed calls. So you have to troll your phone for every other notification.

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[ROCOAFZ]

Nah its a OS limitation. On the HD7 it only blinks for missed calls. So you have to troll your phone for every other notification.

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i would see not blinking for emails as a WP7 Advantage. if i had that my battery would be dead and my light on all the time. I check 5 email accounts, one of which is my work, Exchange 2010 and during the day it would be a steady light instead of a blinking light. Does the iphone let you turn it off anywhere? If so, choice would be an advantage for iphone.

 

[Buckylastard]

Does the iphone let you turn it off anywhere? If so, choice would be an advantage for iphone.

Notification led on iPhone is turned off by default. Most friends I know didn't even knew the iPhone had this function.

 

[ROCOAFZ]

HTC LOCATIONS - verified it expired the 29th. at that point you can buy 1 month, 1 year or unlimied (29.00 license)

Doesn't let you do online or offline without license. I already bought Navigon but just wanted to update. Nokia appears to have the only turn by turn voice no tap directions via oem on windows phone.

 

[xHausx]

Please remember that this thread is for discussing specific features of each OS.

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[ReignOfComputer]

I've made an application availability comparison list, hopefully this comes in handy.
http://www.wp7sg.com/application-comparisons/

 

[vetvito]

I've made an application availability comparison list, hopefully this comes in handy.
http://www.wp7sg.com/application-comparisons/

Kinda pointless don't you think? No way to list all applications, and what's important to you may not be important to others, and vice versa.

Your list doesn't even account for missing features. Alternative apps don't make up for official ones.

So, just stick to the topic.


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[HacK-TroY]

Window phone mango

positive:

almost all

negative:

zune and bluetooch

 

[neverover]

I like Windows UI logics better than iOS. iPhone is very apps-centric, where in order to get the jobs done, you will need all the apps and all the icons in the home screen. Very cluttered and boring by time. Mango based themselves on information, where in people hub you will get covered in terms of social need (facebook, twitter, chat). Too bad Windows made their apps development so closed compared to Android market.