Marshmallow MCG24 unlock bootloader root etc?

[EjđiSixo]

So I bought the phone just now. Paid quite a lot because they don't exist in my country , but I've wanted it since it got out, and it's in like brand new condition so ehhh, why not I said..

Just checked and phone is on Marshmallow 24.81.5quark_verzion.verzion.enUS

Tried Kingroot and sunshine to at least achieve temproot , they both failed.

What are my options right now here?

Thanks!

 

[ChazzMatt]

No unlock options right now if you are on stock 6.0.1 with a locked bootloader.

 

[EjđiSixo]

No unlock options right now if you are on stock 6.0.1 with a locked bootloader.

Thanks for reply! I guess I'll just live with it. Iphone in motorola's body lol. But for discussions sake, any way to downgrade? I know flashing bootloader triggers the "fuse" but I was succesfull with some weird bootloader downgrades in the past wtih 201M (Japanese softbank version of Razr M) and IS12M (JP KDDI version of Droid Razr).

Only problem is, this phone is way to expensive for me to experiment..

 

[ChazzMatt]

Thanks for reply! I guess I'll just live with it. Iphone in motorola's body lol. But for discussions sake, any way to downgrade? I know flashing bootloader triggers the "fuse" but I was successful with some weird bootloader downgrades in the past wtih 201M (Japanese softbank version of Razr M) and IS12M (JP KDDI version of Droid Razr).

Only problem is, this phone is way to expensive for me to experiment..

Hmmmm... then you were very lucky because gospel around here is you can never downgrade the Motorola bootloader. If you could downgrade bootloader, then everyone would go back to version where Sunshine worked! First Sunshine worked on Lollipop SU4TL-44 (November 2015), then everyone who procrastinated rushed to take SU4TL-49 (May 2016), hoping it was Marshmallow. Nope, it was just a Verizon "security" update to stop Sunshine from working. They had SIX MONTHS to unlock their bootloader and they didn't do it! Then everyone complained and said if only Sunshine worked on "49", they wouldn't procrastinate anymore. BOOM. A few months later (july 2016) Sunshine found another exploit and it works also on Lollipop "49".

But we are STILL seeing people now taking the Marshmallow OTA (November 2016) without unlocking bootloader first. Not you, you said you bought it with it already installed...

One of the Sunshine team members said he briefly glanced at the 6.0.1 OTA and it might not be impossible to unlock the bootloader. But no promises and no ETA. I don't think this phone is a high priority anymore. This is now a 2-year old phone. Still GREAT, but other newer phones get attention. There's been Sunshine for it since November 2015 and most everyone who wants it has had a chance to get it.

 

[EjđiSixo]

Hmmmm... then you were very lucky because gospel around here is you can never downgrade the Motorola bootloader. If you could downgrade bootloader, then everyone would go back to version where Sunshine worked! First Sunshine worked on Lollipop SU4TL-44 (November 2015), then everyone who procrastinated rushed to take SU4TL-49 (May 2016), hoping it was Marshmallow. Nope, it was just a Verizon "security" update to stop Sunshine from working. They had SIX MONTHS to unlock their bootloader and they didn't do it! Then everyone complained and said if only Sunshine worked on "49", they wouldn't procrastinate anymore. BOOM. A few months later (july 2016) Sunshine found another exploit and it works also on Lollipop "49".

But we are STILL seeing people now taking the Marshmallow OTA (November 2016) without unlocking bootloader first. Not you, you said you bought it with it already installed...

One of the Sunshine team members said he briefly glanced at the 6.0.1 OTA and it might not be impossible to unlock the bootloader. But no promises and no ETA. I don't think this phone is a high priority anymore. This is now a 2-year old phone. Still GREAT, but other newer phones get attention. There's been Sunshine for it since November 2015 and most everyone who wants it has had a chance to get it.

Yeah I read whole how to unlock bootloader thread, from 1st to last page but havent' seen anything marshmallow specific so I opened this topic..


Yeah , I was also surprised, but I spent around 1 month working on it , and it was only working with specific firmwares (fastboot files).

Yeah I wish I checked little more about that issue , I would check phones OS and probably not buy when I see it's MM.. Oh well, no going back now.. Thought that verzion's control freak behavior stopped by the time of droid turbo( used some verzion motorola phones in the past) especially when google bought motorola.

I hope people don't see this phone as outdated, because there is no way it can be called that. Many people including myself figured it like a replacement for nexus , and I think it deserves at least root exploit..

Also asked in Sunshines thread about support for marshmallow , got rather unclear response:

Me:Will there be support for droid turbo on marshmallow? Just purchased the phone, didn't know unlocking bl was possible only on lolli... Thanks

jcase: Known at this point,

EDIT: damn I write yeah a lot lol. P.s if mods want to delete topic because it's useless, feel free. Thanks!

EDIT 2: By checking system updates looks like phone was updates 3 days ago so 1 day before I bought it .. Arrrghhhh!!!

 

[EjđiSixo]

BTW I just remembered, "old" Droid 's ( xt910 ,xt912 etc) bootloader was never ever unlocked , but there was a way around it. Safestrap recovery by Hashcode , which I'm sure you all know about. The project is scraped because dev is busy , but I really wonder if anything like that is possible on droid turbo. I also wonder how does it work exactly and what gets bypassed.
From users standpoint: you installed apk which then installed recovery that "bypassed" locked bootloader and allowed you to install /load custom roms, kernels , radios , root etc.. You could even install more OS's at same time like on another "partitions".

hm...

 

[weaver11b]

BTW I just remembered, "old" Droid 's ( xt910 ,xt912 etc) bootloader was never ever unlocked , but there was a way around it. Safestrap recovery by Hashcode , which I'm sure you all know about. The project is scraped because dev is busy , but I really wonder if anything like that is possible on droid turbo. I also wonder how does it work exactly and what gets bypassed.
From users standpoint: you installed apk which then installed recovery that "bypassed" locked bootloader and allowed you to install /load custom roms, kernels , radios , root etc.. You could even install more OS's at same time like on another "partitions".

hm...

sorry for keeping this post alive, but i really really miss Safestrap when i had the Moto Droid Razr, you could have up to 4 different ROMs installed and it took minutes to swap between them. Man those were the good ole days haha

Edit: added word droid

 

[EjđiSixo]

sorry for keeping this post alive, but i really really miss Safestrap when i had the Moto Razr, you could have up to 4 different ROMs installed and it took minutes to swap between them. Man those were the good ole days haha

I remember being frustrated about never-unlockable bootloader while using safestrap at same tame and then realised, hey wait! What do I need unlocked bootloader anyway , everything works perfect and functionality is even better than on most modded phones (at the time).
Having something like this on droid turbo would make it a perfect phone in my opinion, and for years to come.. Wonder whats the dev's view on droid turbo on that..

Anyway I was playing a little, all within "safe zones" regarding the downgrading . With litlle modding I could flash bootloader.img from QUARK_VERIZON_5.1_SU4TL-49_cid2_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip and most of partitions related to bootloader I collected from various locations,all from SU4TL but it's obviously not important..
So basically what I can't flash to downgrade is :

gpt.bin
boot.img
system files (system,img_sparsechunk.0 , 1 , 2 etc).. I will investigate more.

Started finally actually using phone , all bloatware can be disabled, so it's actually pretty ok for now. Phone feels awesome ..

 

[EjđiSixo]

Mods , please delete this topic in purpose of cleaning, I'm gonna open 2 topics regarding downgrading experiment and making SBF of new Marshmallow OTA