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Jeff

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2003
189
27
Brussels, Belgium
Greetings! I wanted to see if anyone out there is experiencing the same problems and if so then maybe they have already come up with a solution.

A handful of software is locking up my WM6 (TrueNytrals 1.4MS), the most importand of which Marsware Newspanel is locking up the device after resuming wakeup. I also noticed that it does the same thing on some 3.3AKUs that I tried however the 2.2AKUs (Offical QTEK) seems OK.

I love WM6 and find that the amount of energy poured into getting this OS on our Prophets is outstanding!

Could anyone assist me with keeping this GREAT software on my G3 device since the developer has been MIA for a couple of years now and there is little chance that this software will ever move from BETA stage.

Thanks in advance for any assistance!

EDIT: Upon decompiling further, I have found that the NewsPanel.dll code imports from the following in the system files:

commctrl.dll
coredll.dll
aygshell.dll
wininet.dll

Of which there are differences from 2.2AKU to 3.3 and up (one would assume), therefore leading me to a dead-end. Would the system remain stable if one were to replace the above system files with the ones from a 2.2AKU? Furthermore how could one attemp changing these os-locked files?

Should this thread now be moved to "Development and Hacking"?

Anyone could PLEASE help?

Edit AGAIN: I have tried disabling EVERYTHING but the known system processes and also moving to the internal storage... STILL locking up the device.
 
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Jeff

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2003
189
27
Brussels, Belgium
Anyone?

Has anyone any ideas on this?

If someone has Marsware Newspanel working on their WM6 (ANY Flavour) and it is NOT locking up their device, could you please post here your NewsPanel.dll from your "\Program Files\Marsware\" folder OR PM me? So that I may compare it to my own...

Thanks again!
 

Jesterz

Retired Moderator
Apr 27, 2006
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lets go about this the other way, does newspanel even support WM6 ? (ask them) if so, we can have a look etc. or are you trying to patch this software to work with WM6 ?
 

Jeff

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2003
189
27
Brussels, Belgium
Marsware Newspanel lockups

Jesterz, thanks for your reply...

I feel like Wayne "I'm not worthy"... you are like an XDA idol - cool:

I am not sure if NewsPanel is compatible with WM6 and there is no way of contacting the developer due to the fact that he has been missing in action for more than a few years now, NewsPanel and TimePanel being his last releases (even before WM5 came out).

I suppose then to answer your question, I am looking at MODing it to work for WM6, it worked with NO Problems on WM5 up until 3.3AKU. My initial query was to find out if there were others out there that were able to use the software on their WM6 Devices without lockups and IF so then to find out how this is possible, apply it to my own device; in turn assisting others with the same problems. It is by far THE BEST Rss software out there (subjectivity). Maybe it is JUST not possible with WM6 due to internal OS changes, but proding around I have seen some accounts of it working on WM6. Is it solely a problem that all of the WM6 ROMs in the prophet forums here are all based on the same Wizard ROM? I am not sure, however on Prislavs 4b ROM, which is based on a Charmer ROM - NewsPanel locked up as well... TOO many questions.

So IF there are some out there with a WM6 Device AND MarsWare's NewsPanel installed and working, if they could post their device type (ROM type) and possibly their DLL (there shouldn't be any copyright problems due to it being a free BETA edition).

Thanks again.
 

Jesterz

Retired Moderator
Apr 27, 2006
443
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Jesterz, thanks for your reply...

I feel like Wayne "I'm not worthy"... you are like an XDA idol - cool:

I am not sure if NewsPanel is compatible with WM6 and there is no way of contacting the developer due to the fact that he has been missing in action for more than a few years now, NewsPanel and TimePanel being his last releases (even before WM5 came out).

I suppose then to answer your question, I am looking at MODing it to work for WM6, it worked with NO Problems on WM5 up until 3.3AKU. My initial query was to find out if there were others out there that were able to use the software on their WM6 Devices without lockups and IF so then to find out how this is possible, apply it to my own device; in turn assisting others with the same problems. It is by far THE BEST Rss software out there (subjectivity). Maybe it is JUST not possible with WM6 due to internal OS changes, but proding around I have seen some accounts of it working on WM6. Is it solely a problem that all of the WM6 ROMs in the prophet forums here are all based on the same Wizard ROM? I am not sure, however on Prislavs 4b ROM, which is based on a Charmer ROM - NewsPanel locked up as well... TOO many questions.

So IF there are some out there with a WM6 Device AND MarsWare's NewsPanel installed and working, if they could post their device type (ROM type) and possibly their DLL (there shouldn't be any copyright problems due to it being a free BETA edition).

Thanks again.

I've been away from months so i'm catching up, but I now remember these guys, they also made the weatherpanel, too bad they are MIA, anyway obviously something broke between AKU 2.2 and AKU 3 and higher, as you have already debuged in your posts, it is probably due to change in the files you list, what you could do is create an WM6 rom with older files in it and see if it works....

P.s.
i'm hardly an XDA idol, like way !, no way ! I just like my prophet :)
 

Jeff

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2003
189
27
Brussels, Belgium
Upgrading

Jesterz,

I have never quite ventured into the 'building' stages of the OS, just mainly flashing others' published works. However I am downloading the S-Core kitchen and I will see if I am not able to do just that - replacing the neccessary files to get this soft to work. However if I were to be able to extract the files that I saw from decompiling the dll from an official 2.2 AKU then I could make a CAB file to replace some if not all of the dll's, no? I say this because I have for once an incredibly stable TrueNytral 1.4 ROM with everything working (charging, wifi, bt, IR, etc.) and I would hate to see it gone - "if it ain't broke don't fix it'.

So I suppose now that I have to figure out how to extract these files from my 2.2 Nk.nbf and THEN put them in a CAB and install on my WM6... the learning process begins now...

Any assistance or guidance would be GREATLY appreciated.
 

Jeff

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2003
189
27
Brussels, Belgium
Still goin' on...

I have tried about everything now, I have tried to extract all the above-noted DLLs from the official QTEK ROM, but the problem with the PE Headers of the dumped files is stopping me from trying to use them in my WM6. (Yet another problem)

I have looked in the NewsPanel.DLL, but my programming skills are not adequate enough to amend or modify it due to the fact that I don't know what I am doing should I need to change something.

++++ Can someone out there (Guru status sans doute) disassimble the DLL to know how it works and then modify what is making it "lockup" on WM6 (normally within 45 seconds after waking up the device). ++++

I cannot seem to find another (better) RSS reader that offers large RSS Descriptions WITH embedded photos on the today screen:

I have tried PocketRSS - large and nice but no photos
I have tried Insight - nice but NOT large enough
Egress downloads in background but no photos on today screen

Franky newspanel is by far the best, I just cannot seem to get it to work!

Maybe I'm bull-headed, but I don't want to let this go if there is a way to use still use it with WM6- and as I said b4 the developer is MIA.

AnYoNe can HELP?
 

nikjensie

Senior Member
Aug 1, 2006
178
1
Hey,
found your post in a search, and I just want to let you know that you are not alone, I have the same problem on an unknown Vanilla ROM and also the current XDA Mobile 6 r2a that I'm running. The exact same symptoms. This is REALLY a shame as I totally agree that it is THE BEST today plugin when it comes to RSS. I'm settling with Egress right now but if anything were to evolve on NewsPanels problems...
If there's ANYTHING I can do with my very limited knowledge in programming, let me know, at least I can beta test, right? I have no problems flashing and re-flashing if needed to get this awesome program back up and running in our WM6s.

Best Regards,
Nik
 

STL.Mogul

Member
Sep 4, 2007
31
1
St. Louis
That's strange. Back when I had the PPC-6700, NewsPanel (after a few months) started locking up my phone all the time. Not just on wake-up, but when I tried to do ANYTHING. In fact, it caused me to hard-reset a few imes...

However, now that I've got the HTC Mogul, I haven't had this problem once. Of course last time it just took a while for the problem to show up, but it might also be because I'm using the today plug-in in Spb Diary.

-W&P

p.s. I know this post isn't much help, but I thought maybe knowing it works for me in Diary might help out in some way.
 

Jeff

Senior Member
Sep 17, 2003
189
27
Brussels, Belgium
Update

Ok, it seems that the Call to the Connection is the problem here or at least I think so. When we check for it to "Establish a Connection" and you have a GPRS connection it works without any problems. However, if you were to go to Flight mode then it will lock up your device again...

I read somewhere that the developer fell off of a mountain while trying to climb it and consequently expired, so I guess there is no help down that road...

Could or can anyone with some experience with IDA (or the like) dis- and re-assemble the DLL and take out the Establish a Connection problem so that the rest of the world can have Photo feeds on their today screen without waiting for Insight to update for over 8 months now? I confirm that this is working in WM5 of the official flavour, i.e. Qtek 2.20 for S200 WITHOUT the establish connection thing-y.

Otherwise I am trying to learn as I go, but as many of you with graduate degrees in IT will acknowledge - It ain't easy!

Peace...........
 

Rumball

Senior Member
Aug 30, 2007
1,650
316
Toronto
Ok, it seems that the Call to the Connection is the problem here or at least I think so. When we check for it to "Establish a Connection" and you have a GPRS connection it works without any problems. However, if you were to go to Flight mode then it will lock up your device again...

I read somewhere that the developer fell off of a mountain while trying to climb it and consequently expired, so I guess there is no help down that road...

Could or can anyone with some experience with IDA (or the like) dis- and re-assemble the DLL and take out the Establish a Connection problem so that the rest of the world can have Photo feeds on their today screen without waiting for Insight to update for over 8 months now? I confirm that this is working in WM5 of the official flavour, i.e. Qtek 2.20 for S200 WITHOUT the establish connection thing-y.

On my HTC Tytn-II with WM6, Newspanel locks up the device even if "Establish a Connection" is disabled/unchecked.