Mate 20 Pro or P20 Pro?

[Marvolo1590]

Hi community,

My current phone is slowly dying, so I have been researching actual 2018 phones. Since I like the idea of using dual-sim-cards (private & business), a lot of phones out there had to go by the board and only a few remained. I have always been a HTC fanboy, but I'm open for new things, so the P20 Pro and the Mate 20 Pro have caught my eye.

After reading through countless comparison reviews and articles, I understood that the Mate 20 Pro was the slightly better of the two and I really was all stoked to buy it when suddenly I stumbled across that display 'Gluegate' problem that has befallen most phones that are currently circulating on the market.

Since I really do not like the idea of paying 1000€ only to get a phone that I can sign up for repair immediately after, I've become hesitant about buying it now. The more I keep reading on here or similar blogs, the longer the list of negative aspects about the Mate 20 Pro seems to get.

I could look at a demo in a local store nearby and while it is really big compared to my actual HTC M9, that's something I could probably get used to. However, I found that notch super annoying. You may be able to disable it in the settings, but that still doesn't give you more space for icons in the tray. It seems as if only 3 or 4 icons fit in the tray above because that stupid notch is physically blocking the space. Will I still receive notifications from apps whose icon won't fit in the tray because it's full due to the notch?

In terms of camera quality: is the Mate 20 Pro significantly better/suprerior to the P20 Pro? I could get the P20 Pro for nearly hafl the price now and at the moment I'm totally not sure if I'm ready to pay 1000 bucks for the Mate 20 Pro with a faulty display, a way too small tray bar and with people complaining about pre-developed UI like EMUI and supposedly mediocre camera quality...

Can anyone relate to this? If you were me and about to get a new phone, would you get the Mate 20 Pro?

 

[SPfuns]

Hi community,

My current phone is slowly dying, so I have been researching actual 2018 phones. Since I like the idea of using dual-sim-cards (private & business), a lot of phones out there had to go by the board and only a few remained. I have always been a HTC fanboy, but I'm open for new things, so the P20 Pro and the Mate 20 Pro have caught my eye.

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Can anyone relate to this? If you were me and about to get a new phone, would you get the Mate 20 Pro?

Which part do you need ?

Photo ? Please choose p20pro because Huawei don't tell us mate20pro oxdmark point.

Battery life? P20pro or m20pro is same.

Price. Oneplus 6 or oneplus 6t.

I will choose p20pro.

 

[deekbee]

Which part do you need ?

Photo ? Please choose p20pro because Huawei don't tell us mate20pro oxdmark point.

Battery life? P20pro or m20pro is same.

Price. Oneplus 6 or oneplus 6t.

I will choose p20pro.

Nope, P20 Pro has a smaller battery, the battery life is not the same on both.

Ignore the DXOMark, that has long since been a useless and irrelevant benchmark for imaging.

 

[SPfuns]

Nope, P20 Pro has a smaller battery, the battery life is not the same on both.

Ignore the DXOMark, that has long since been a useless and irrelevant benchmark for imaging.

M20pro screen fingerprints and 3d consume a lot of power, if you turn off fingerprint recognition, there will be more power. The mate 20 pro plan to uses 5000. Because it can't support 40 watts to change 4200.

 

[dladz]

I have the p20pro.

Great phone as I'm sure the mate is too. Both crippled by the worst possible development and bootloader lock down I've ever seen.

Anyone who knew about the p20pro shambles who goes ahead and buys a mate pro should expect a locked down system and no development at all.

Bare in mind that the p20pro barely had a functional twrp and little to no sign of pie recovery or root method in sight, meaning stick with Oreo and have root or have pie and nothing, if you have the mate then you are out of luck.

Nor a good time for Android / modding at all..

Avoid both and buy the McLaren 6T.

 

[ccl2003]

Had the same dilemma a few weeks back. Mate 20 Pro or P20 Pro to replace my previous Mate 10. Ended up with the Mate 20 Pro and trust me when I tell you that the Mate 20 Pro's Kirin 980 is so much faster than the P20 Pro's Kirin 970 which is the same SOC of the Mate 10. Mate 20 Pro is a true beast and camera is outstanding while battery life is great even better than the Mate 10.

 

[darklajid]

Get a P20P. I owned both, "upgraded" to the Mate when it came out in Singapore. I regret that decision. The Mate is a nice piece of hardware, but I ultimately feel it wasn't worth the price and a downgrade from the P20P.

Why P20P?

Camera. The Mate one is SLOOOOW and often doesn't even take a picture when I press the button - I assume it's stuck in some autofocus or what. Snapshots are a pain in the ass.

Unlock: Both the in-display fingerprint sensor and the face unlock on the Mate are not perfect, which means that you're inevitably have to retry sometimes. That gets old fast. Plus, if you're using apps that can be unlocked with a fingerprint (say, email clients, banking apps) then you're in for a bad time..

Notch: Basically... forget about seeing any notification, ever. You won't. The tiny usable part of the status bar is filled with icons you can't remove.

What does the Mate have to offer? "Newer"? Battery? Gimmicks like 'reverse wireless charging'? It arguably looks nicer. That's .. about it.

 

[ccl2003]

Camera. The Mate one is SLOOOOW and often doesn't even take a picture when I press the button - I assume it's stuck in some autofocus or what. Snapshots are a pain in the ass.

Not for me. Came from the Mate 10 then to the Mate 20 Pro and cam is faster to focus and load with the Mate 20 Pro. Mate 10 and P20 Pro uses the same ISP from the same SOC.

Unlock: Both the in-display fingerprint sensor and the face unlock on the Mate are not perfect, which means that you're inevitably have to retry sometimes. That gets old fast. Plus, if you're using apps that can be unlocked with a fingerprint (say, email clients, banking apps) then you're in for a bad time..

Face unlock for me is great and faster than the face unlock feature of the Mate 10 which uses the same tech as the P20 Pro. I can unlock the phone using 3D Face Unlock even at low light something which I can barely do on the Mate 10 at dim lighting conditions.

Notch: Basically... forget about seeing any notification, ever. You won't. The tiny usable part of the status bar is filled with icons you can't remove.

So does every Android phone with the notch so no big deal for me.

What does the Mate have to offer? "Newer"? Battery? Gimmicks like 'reverse wireless charging'? It arguably looks nicer. That's .. about it.

Kirin 980 on the Mate 20 Pro is no joke coming from the Kirin 970 of the Mate 10. Everything else is faster, smoother and its like you can do any task a lot faster than on any Android smartphone as of this time.

 

[deekbee]

I have the p20pro.

Great phone as I'm sure the mate is too. Both crippled by the worst possible development and bootloader lock down I've ever seen.

Anyone who knew about the p20pro shambles who goes ahead and buys a mate pro should expect a locked down system and no development at all.

Bare in mind that the p20pro barely had a functional twrp and little to no sign of pie recovery or root method in sight, meaning stick with Oreo and have root or have pie and nothing, if you have the mate then you are out of luck.

Nor a good time for Android / modding at all..

Avoid both and buy the McLaren 6T.

The McLaren 6T, which is the most bizarre marketing push in history? Why would you want to have some sort of tie in with a company who is primarily known for failure over the last few years? But that is irrelevant - at the end of the day, rooting is a niche activity. Sure, some people make use of it, but most of the users really don't care that much.

 

[dladz]

The McLaren 6T, which is the most bizarre marketing push in history? Why would you want to have some sort of tie in with a company who is primarily known for failure over the last few years? But that is irrelevant - at the end of the day, rooting is a niche activity. Sure, some people make use of it, but most of the users really don't care that much.

The design of the phone is superb.
Warp charge is amazing.
I like the orange it's brilliant.

Mclaren make the best cars in the world in my opinion and many others.

It's half the price of a competing phone, ie: S10 / Phone XS

At this point in time it is the best phone there is, for development, for speed, for charging, for design, for many things.

Not to mention 10GB of RAM.

Comparing the Pro or the Mate to any Oneplus phone is futile, owners of either phone are going to give delusional comments about the opposite phone.

Personally as a user of XDA and a long time ROM flasher since the G1 days, i honestly couldn't have a phone without root and without removing the shackles which essentially turns it into a cheap iPhone clone.

That's my opinion, which the OP had asked for.

 

[Jonathan-H]

Get a P20P. I owned both, "upgraded" to the Mate when it came out in Singapore. I regret that decision. The Mate is a nice piece of hardware, but I ultimately feel it wasn't worth the price and a downgrade from the P20P.

Why P20P?

Camera. The Mate one is SLOOOOW and often doesn't even take a picture when I press the button - I assume it's stuck in some autofocus or what. Snapshots are a pain in the ass.

Unlock: Both the in-display fingerprint sensor and the face unlock on the Mate are not perfect, which means that you're inevitably have to retry sometimes. That gets old fast. Plus, if you're using apps that can be unlocked with a fingerprint (say, email clients, banking apps) then you're in for a bad time..

Notch: Basically... forget about seeing any notification, ever. You won't. The tiny usable part of the status bar is filled with icons you can't remove.

What does the Mate have to offer? "Newer"? Battery? Gimmicks like 'reverse wireless charging'? It arguably looks nicer. That's .. about it.

I disagree with all of this. You must have a faulty mate device.

The face unlock and fingerprint unlock on mine work 100% of the time, without fail. You have to enrol them properly and with the fingerprint, press hard on the screen.

As for photos, mine takes the shot immediately with every click, zero shutter lag, every single time UNLESS its night and you have AI on as it likes to sharpen the photo after you take it. Mostly this is just processing. Press the shutter 3 4 5 times and every photo, once processed, is available blur free.

I see notifications, all you have to do is make the battery percentage inside the icon, and turn off the network name. It's not hard to work this stuff out if you know anything about phones.

As for the P20 pro... it's slow, laggy, takes worse photos, screen wakes super slowly in sun due to some auto brightness issue, battery life is sub par, it doesn't fill the screen properly in apps like instagram.. less water resistant. Only thing the P20 pro does better is the speakers. No 4k stabilisation, awful video quality overall. Terrible graphics chip.

Mate 20 Pro all the way. Even with nonsense misinformation spread around.

 

[darklajid]

I disagree with all of this. You must have a faulty mate device.

The face unlock and fingerprint unlock on mine work 100% of the time, without fail. You have to enrol them properly and with the fingerprint, press hard on the screen.

As for photos, mine takes the shot immediately with every click, zero shutter lag, every single time UNLESS its night and you have AI on as it likes to sharpen the photo after you take it. Mostly this is just processing. Press the shutter 3 4 5 times and every photo, once processed, is available blur free.

I see notifications, all you have to do is make the battery percentage inside the icon, and turn off the network name. It's not hard to work this stuff out if you know anything about phones.

As for the P20 pro... it's slow, laggy, takes worse photos, screen wakes super slowly in sun due to some auto brightness issue, battery life is sub par, it doesn't fill the screen properly in apps like instagram.. less water resistant. Only thing the P20 pro does better is the speakers. No 4k stabilisation, awful video quality overall. Terrible graphics chip.

Mate 20 Pro all the way. Even with nonsense misinformation spread around.

First, (fan)boy are you triggered much..

Second, my experience stands and foam around your mouth doesn't change that. It's also a subjective thing, so "correcting" my recommendation is silly. The OP wants opinions, mine isn't worse than yours.

Third, I know a thing or two about phones. Nice slight, nice try.

Fourth.. see attachment. There's space for exactly one icon, whether you like it or not, "expert" phone tips not relevant.

I recommend the P20P.

 

[vodovodo]

P20 pro takes worse photos my A$$!!
The monochrome sensor still superior when it comes to photos specially in the dark environment and details in general, even the paid YouTube reviewers to braise the wide angel lense can't deny that
as for video recording both are considered the worst with the rest of Kirin powered phones. but the mate 20 pro can take stabilized bad videos in 4k.

Day to day use application both are fast specially the mate 20 with zero to small difference in speed, but games both struggle specially in future fight and PUBG.
P20 pro battery is actually lasting longer than mate 20 pro unless u switch the face recognition and in display fingerprint off, then they are similar so what's the point of them?
No gluegate stupid issue with p20 pro and half the price.
I actually had p20 pro, sold for a note 9 last August got the mate 20 pro as a second phone then back to p20 pro which I consider upgrade from the mate 20

 

[miffymiffy]

As much as I love this phone, I hate it just as much. Do yourself a favour and get something with a Snapdragon processor and something that can be bootloader unlocked. Pixel or a One Plus. Even consider the Xiaomi if it's price you're after.

 

[ccl2003]

Warp charge is amazing.

Warp charge gets smoked by Huawei's 40W Supercharge:https://www.gsmarena.com/warp_charge_30_vs_other_fast_charging_standards_-news-34697.php

https://youtu.be/UxlWYzrZweM

Day to day use application both are fast specially the mate 20 with zero to small difference in speed, but games both struggle specially in future fight and PUBG.

Sorry but the Kirin 980 is much faster than Krin 970. I came from Mate 10 to Mate 20 Pro and I can tell the difference.

P20 pro battery is actually lasting longer than mate 20 pro unless u switch the face recognition and in display fingerprint off, then they are similar so what's the point of them?

I highly doubt this. Using the Mate 20 Pro as the same resolution with the P20 Pro's FHD+ will definitely result into better battery life in favor of the Mate 20 Pro.

No gluegate stupid issue with p20 pro and half the price.

Fyi, not all units are affected so please do not generalize. Half the price where is that mate? In my area there is a USD 200 price difference and even 2nd hand units of the P20 Pro won't be half the value of the Mate 20 Pro.

I actually had p20 pro, sold for a note 9 last August got the mate 20 pro as a second phone then back to p20 pro which I consider upgrade from the mate 20

Sorry mate but that is a downgrade to the max. Slower processor, lower resolution, slower charging, etc. Don't get me wrong, the P20 Pro is a great device but its about 8 months old in the market already. No need to disrespect and bash Mate 20 Pro users if you don't like it please. Thanks!

 

[dladz]

Warp charge gets smoked by Huawei's 40W Supercharge:https://www.gsmarena.com/warp_charge_30_vs_other_fast_charging_standards_-news-34697.php

Yea I'm not buying that.

The McLaren is a beast of a device. Comparing it to any phone, not just a Huawei.

More to the point.

Why on earth would anyone support that regime??

They have absolutely gone against android in every way, not only that but every single developer will avoid them like the plague.

You want to buy into that?? Be my guest, you'll be one of few.

Enjoy ads, bloat, no ROMs, no mods, no bootloader unlocking, no root, no magisk mods, no AOSP, no kernels.

The pro has some but once pie becomes mainstream, root and twrp are out.

 

[ccl2003]

Yea I'm not buying that.

The McLaren is a beast of a device. Comparing it to any phone, not just a Huawei.

More to the point.

Why on earth would anyone support that regime??

They have absolutely gone against android in every way, not only that but every single developer will avoid them like the plague.

You want to buy into that?? Be my guest, you'll be one of few.

Enjoy ads, bloat, no ROMs, no mods, no bootloader unlocking, no root, no magisk mods, no AOSP, no kernels.

The pro has some but once pie becomes mainstream, root and twrp are out.

To each his own mate. Fact: Not all smartphone users care about ROMs, mods, root, kernels and unlocked bootloaders.

 

[dladz]

To each his own mate. Fact: Not all smartphone users care about ROMs, mods, root, kernels and unlocked bootloaders.

Totally agree, I came to XDA because most people here did.

But less and less are. Plus the OEMs are making it harder.

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To each his own mate. Fact: Not all smartphone users care about ROMs, mods, root, kernels and unlocked bootloaders.

My wife and some friends have stock and they get by so they're functional. But there are too many benefits to ignore root

 

[iberr]

FYI, you can also hide icons on the status bar by using 3rd app such as SystemUItuner. You can make 2 empty slots at least. That's enough for me.

 

[pogi.paul0119]

I hate this type of question, 1 or 2? Most of the people asking neither buy the products they ask for others opinion.. Lol