Mate 20 Pro users, will you be moviing to the "Google-less" Mate 30 Pro?

[LegionCommander]

So it's that time of the year now. with the issues between US and Huawei,

Huawei has finally released its newest flagship Mate series smartphones at Germany. The Mate 20 and 20 Pro

the Mate 30 series comes with a new halo-ring camera design which comes with a circular shape that resembles a professional camera. It also has a new screen technology called the Horizon display which reaches up to 88-degree angle.

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The Mate 30 phones are based on Android open source, meaning they will still function like Androids. What they won't have, though, is Google services or apps. No Google Maps, no Google Chrome and, most importantly, no Google Play Store.

Instead, you'll surf the web through the Huawei Browser and download apps through the Huawei AppGallery. The AppGallery has around 45,000 apps, according to Huawei, compared to the Google Play Store's estimated 2.7 million. Google typically licenses the latest version of Android, currently Android 10, for phone manufacturers to use. The Mate 30 phones will instead be powered by open-source Android and run EMUI 10, Huawei's user interface that approximates Google's Android 10.

This means Huawei will only be able to bring security updates to the Mate 30 phones when those updates hit open-source Android.​

Huawei Mate 30 specs:
6.62-inch 19.5:9 RIGID OLED FHD (2340 x 1080) display, DCI-P3 HDR
3D Curved Glass
HiSilicon Kirin 990 7nm 2.86GHz octa-core
Mali-G76 MP16 GPU w/ GPU Turbo (new generation)
8GB RAM
128GB UFS storage
Dual-SIM card (nano + nano/NM card)
40MP SuperSensing F1.8 + 16MP Ultra-Wide F2.2 + 8MP Telephoto F2.2 (3x optical zoom 5x hybrid zoom 30x digital zoom) triple rear cameras (Leica)
up to ISO 204800, OIS + AIS
24MP RGB Front camera
4G Dual VoLTE
5G connectivity (Mate 30 5G)
WiFi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 5.0
GPS, A-GPS, GLONASS, BDS, Galileo, QZSS
NFC
IP53 water and dust resistance
Face Unlock
In-Display Fingerprint scanner
Invisible Virtual Key (for volume rockers)
Always-On-Display
Dark Mode Engine
AI Auto-Rotate technology
EMUI 10 (Android 10)
4,200mAh battery w/ 27W Wireless SuperCharge, 40W SuperCharge, Reverse Charging
76.1mm
196g

Huawei Mate 30 Pro specs:
6.53-inch 18.4:9 OLED FHD (2400 x 1176) display, DCI-P3 HDR
3D curved glass
HiSilicon Kirin 990 7nm 2.86GHz octa-core
Mali-G76 MP16 GPU w/ GPU Turbo (new generation)
8GB RAM
256GB UFS storage
Dual-SIM card (nano + nano/NM card)
40MP Cine Camera F1.8 + 40MP SuperSensing F1.6 (w/ OIS) camera + 8MP Telephoto F2.4 (w/ OIS, 3x optical zoom, 5x hybrid zoom, 30x digital zoom) + 3D Depth Sensing (Leica)
up to ISO 409600 (photo), ISO 51200 (Video), Dual OIS + AIS, Ultra Slow-motion (7680fps), 4K low-light Ultra-wide time-lapse video, 4K HDR+, 4K 60fps
3D Depth Camera + 32MP RGB Front camera
4G Dual VoLTE
5G connectivity (Mate 30 Pro 5G)
WiFi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 5.0
GPS, A-GPS, GLONASS, BDS, Galileo, QZSS
NFC
IP68 water and dust resistance
Invisible Virtual Key (for volume rockers)
Always-On-Display
Dark Mode Engine
AI Auto-Rotate technology
AI Private View
3D Face Unlock
In-Display Fingerprint scanner
EMUI 10 (Android 10)
4,500mAh battery w/ 27W Wireless SuperCharge, 40W SuperCharge, Reverse Charging
73.1mm
198g
Classical Black, Space silver, Cosmic Purple, Emerald Green (Matte), Vegan Leather, Vegan Leather orange, Vegan Leather Forest Green

PRICES
Huawei Mate 30 8GB + 128GB – EUR 799
Huawei Mate 30 Pro 8GB + 256GB – EUR 1099
Huawei Mate 30 Pro 5G 8GB + 256GB – EUR 1199
Porsche Design Huawei Mate 30 RS 12GB + 512GB – EUR 2,095

Personally, I'd keep mine and wait for a bootloader unlock code window to open again. I love my Mate 20 Pro.
but seeing the Mate 30/Pro running on AOSP looks

What's your take?

 

[LegionCommander]

oops wrong sub-forum

#reserved

 

[NotTheMomma]

YEah, I'm considering it, providing I can sideload what I need on the phone, eg play services and play store. If sideloading works and everything functions, then I'm in.

 

[Abaddon]

The specs and features on that beast is phenomenal. But I'll wait and see If we can unlock the bootloader. I need at least root. Lol

 

[gustavomp]

I'm not planning on moving to anything. Mate 20 Pro will still be a beast for a few years.

 

[Daniehabazin]

It's a nice phone, but a big no for me, I hate the trend with curved screens, I have problems with my mate 20 pro when using it with only one hand, imagine how many phantom presses you get if the screen is curved more.
Then also I'm rooted on my mate 20 pro, and I'm sure that there won't be any more unlock codes.
The missing Google services is nothing since you can install them yourself.

 

[jalk44]

Yes, I will test it out and then move back to my note 9

 

[cfds]

I will wait until we have a solution/alternative for google playstore and make my move. I am happy with the Mate 20 pro but if I can upgrade the camera and display I am in!

 

[dimon222]

No. Too big money for phone with uncertain future

 

[urizin]

I do not think I shall consider a phone ? that I have to improvise how do I backup my data and mainly pictures. It is so much easier with google than with Huawei backup. I love my mate 20 pro and without this problem I would go to the mate 30 pro without even looking at other phone ?.but no without google .

 

[Serge Winters]

huawei is the only company that is doing a really tech on phones now.. I will buy mate 30 for sure.. dont care about google services.. because i will install them by my self

 

[xou130]

Unless able to unlock BL

 

[RockyAJ]

I do not think I shall consider a phone that I have to improvise how do I backup my data and mainly pictures. It is so much easier with google than with Huawei backup. I love my mate 20 pro and without this problem I would go to the mate 30 pro without even looking at other phone .but no without google .

you realise you can always use non google apps for backups,right? and even a pc for photo backups. that's what i do at least. i backup all my photos to my laptop. never to a cloud

 

[pogi.paul0119]

Will get mate 30 Pro but around December, it will be more pocket friendly..

 

[urizin]

you realise you can always use non google apps for backups,right? and even a pc for photo backups. that's what i do at least. i backup all my photos to my laptop. never to a cloud

I know I can but it is not so convenient especially if you are abroad.
I do not think I should pay a premium price to compromise. There are a lot of other google app I am using that I shall not be able.

 

[loizos250]

with bootloader locked.......... no way to buy it

 

[WarVic]

huawei is the only company that is doing a really tech on phones now.. I will buy mate 30 for sure.. dont care about google services.. because i will install them by my self

You can't do this any more. Google shut the door. Manual installation of Google apps and services is not a option by now.

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Certainly no Google - no buy whatever good the phone is. Huawei have to sort is out ASAP. Otherwise they can forget about smartphone business outside China for sure. I don't need a phone without Google. Even if a new Google services installation hack will be available, I won't be bothered to buy over $1k smartphone to mess with it and have a headache about Google problems.

 

[xeroxide]

You can't do this any more. Google shut the door. Manual installation of Google apps and services is not a option by now.

---------- Post added at 01:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:47 PM ----------

Certainly no Google - no buy whatever good the phone is. Huawei have to sort is out ASAP. Otherwise they can forget about smartphone business outside China for sure. I don't need a phone without Google. Even if a new Google services installation hack will be available, I won't be bothered to buy over $1k smartphone to mess with it and have a headache about Google problems.

unless there's a way to install gapps, I won't be upgrading downgrading.
combine this with the fact that Huawei isn't allowing unlocked bootloader, forget it.

I love the hardware, but the software and restrictions is unacceptable for a premium tier device.