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I have a question.
In my last car i owned a Teyes CC3. I loved the CC3 because it consumed so little power in standby so it stayed standby for 3 days before it shutdowned completly.
Is the navifly also able to stay awake for 3 days before complete shutdown?
My unit (mekede 500s) stays in sleep mode about 48 hours before shut down completely. But honestly i wonder if it is healthy to the car's battery.
 

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My unit (mekede 500s) stays in sleep mode about 48 hours before shut down completely. But honestly i wonder if it is healthy to the car's battery.
Yes, it is healthy. If correctly connected your battery can last 30~50 days. In case it is not properly connected it will completely shutdown after 2 days.
Say that you have a "marter peeper" in your car. Those use more energy.
 

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You don't have the option to switch of afer 30 seconds, 1 minute, 3 minutes, etcetera?
What model NaviFly do you have? All uis7862 and uis8581a have that option.
I think he might be mistakenly searching in Factory settings, because I thought that I didn't have that option either. In factory settings you can either switch deep sleep on or off.

When you go to User however, than you should find that option to delay switch off.

USER
Location
Security
Language And Input
Google Settings
Backup And Reset
Account
Delay Power Off When ACC Off
Application Setting ( which applications you want to auto-start when you start your car and unit )

Yes from your topic hehe :)
 

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You don't have the option to switch of afer 30 seconds, 1 minute, 3 minutes, etcetera?
What model NaviFly do you have? All uis7862 and uis8581a have that option.
No I don't have this option. my is a m700s Navifly with the laat version of the software that I downloaded from the site of Mekede for uis7862
 

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Yes, it is healthy. If correctly connected your battery can last 30~50 days. In case it is not properly connected it will completely shutdown after 2 days.
Say that you have a "marter peeper" in your car. Those use more energy.
What do you mean by "In case it is not properly connected it will completely shutdown after 2 days"? The units are pretty much Plug&Play, what is "not properly connected"? So according to what you say, I can set the device to stay in sleep mode for 10 days before turning off completely and it won't damage the car battery? Is the battery supposed to provide voltage for such a long time without ignition?
 

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What do you mean by "In case it is not properly connected it will completely shutdown after 2 days"? The units are pretty much Plug&Play, what is "not properly connected"? So according to what you say, I can set the device to stay in sleep mode for 10 days before turning off completely and it won't damage the car battery? Is the battery supposed to provide voltage for such a long time without ignition?
No, in case the ACC and CONT wire are reversely connected. That is not the mistake of FYT. It is the carelessness of the car manufacturers who now control everything via CANbus.
In Settings you either switch it off or set it to deep sleep. And in another part of the Settings (see @DexterMorganNL post above), you set it how long it takes to switch off or go to deep sleep.
But also in deep-sleep it will completely shutdown afer 3 days or so. Just to prevent the issues you might get in case of incorrectly connected ACC and CONT wires.
And why would a slow load on your battery be bad for your battery? That is what is is made for.
 
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Hello

I would like to check, what version of carlink 2.0 are you guys using? Does display AA in split screen and does the map works with the headlight dimming?
 

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Hello friends, where can I download a pack of logos of all vehicles, I changed the software of my radio Mekede with root, now it's just missing the logos that only have one. Can I extract from the original rom?
 

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For those who want to root their device is quick and easy. 1. Place the contents of this file on a FAT32-formatted flash drive
2. Insert the flash drive into the powered-on main unit and wait until it automatically restarts
3. After the green inscription with the timer appears, the flash drive can be pulled out
4. Wait for the main drive to load, manually install the Magisk apk file. apk
5. Completed
6. As a precaution, your original boot was copied to a flash drive named stock_boot.img. It is taking advantage of I am also sending the most current system file 08/20/22.


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Yes, it is healthy. If correctly connected your battery can last 30~50 days. In case it is not properly connected it will completely shutdown after 2 days.
Say that you have a "marter peeper" in your car. Those use more energy.
I still wonder though if deep sleep isn't slowly draining the cars battery? Especially in the winter, the battery has more to endure. And also when you don't drive very frequently like me, that's why I switched deep sleep off. Minimizing the energy consumption: but I start driving already, while its booting up.

Although I would like an easy way, to enable it: because obviously deep sleep is useful, just in order to enable or disable you need to go into factory settings. And I found that cold boot, is still acceptable as it's within 25 seconds atleast.

What I really would wanna know: is the actually consumption in deep sleep, because I don't trust the Chinese very much. Only I don't have a way to test it myself.
 

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I still wonder though if deep sleep isn't slowly draining the cars battery? Especially in the winter, the battery has more to endure. And also when you don't drive very frequently like me, that's why I switched deep sleep off. Minimizing the energy consumption: but I start driving already, while its booting up.

Although I would like an easy way, to enable it: because obviously deep sleep is useful, just in order to enable or disable you need to go into factory settings. And I found that cold boot, is still acceptable as it's within 25 seconds atleast.

What I really would wanna know: is the actually consumption in deep sleep, because I don't trust the Chinese very much. Only I don't have a way to test it myself.
There were many posts about the energy consumption for the Sofia 3GR, the PX5 and the sc9853i. As off the sc9853i everyone was by then convinced of the deep sleep mode.

If you push the "home" button 3 seconds, it will switch off the screen and then the energy consumption is 0.8 ~ 1.3 Ampere. This will drain your battery in 2-4 days, but you can calculate that for yourself depending on the ah of your car battery.
In deep sleep the load is 10~ 40 mA, where 40 mA is really on the high side.
Your battery needs about 50% remaining load to be able to start in winter.
So for 40 mA on a 60 ah battery to 50% load takes approximately 30 days.

Of course: when your wires are not correctly connected, your unit will keep consuming 0.8 ~ 1.3 A, unless you connect the wires correctly or software based change that in the settings.
 
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There were many posts about the energy consumption for the Sofia 3GR, the PX5 and the sc9853i. As off the sc9853i everyone was by then convinced of the deep sleep mode.

If you push the "home" button 3 seconds, it will switch off the screen and then the energy consumption is 0.8 ~ 1.3 Ampere. This will drain your battery in 2-4 days, but you can calculate that for yourself depending on the ah of your car battery.
In deep sleep the load is 10~ 40 mA, where 40 mA is really on the high side.
Your battery needs about 50% remaining load to be able to start in winter.
So for 40 mA on a 60 ah battery to 50% load takes approximately 30 days.

Of course: when your wires are not correctly connected, your unit will keep consuming 0.8 ~ 1.3 A, unless you connect the wires correctly or software based change that in the settings.
This is actually useful information, because I wasn't sure if deep sleep with this current generation of Android head-units would work the same way, as it would with the OEM Carradio. Those are also drawing a little power, in order not to lose your settings.

My car is almost 8 years old and has a Start-Stop battery: so I rather replace it only, when really needed. The last winter it did totally fine, no issues even when standing still for more than a week during the heavy snow.

But I guess it would actually be fine, to enable deep sleep: even when only driving once a week. I tend to avoid driving short distances anyway. Mostly I drive between 14km and 20km return, sometimes 40 when going to Maastricht.
 

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Is there a way to auto start carlink from cold boot?
Yes go to User? Applications Settings or something like that? And than you find all your apps, with slider's. If you put a slider on, than it means to auto-start.

Actually I have also set Carlink to auto-start, but it might be possible you run into errors when the headunit doesn't display the correct time and date. Android Auto doesn't always wanna connect, if the time and date aren't correct on the headunit.

Because with deep sleep turned of, it seems so get messed-up with the time and date often when doing a cold boot. Just not sure if this also an issue with wireless Android Auto. If I'm not mistaken, the way wireless Android Auto connects: it setup a WiFi connection between the phone and headunit. Which also correcte the time and date.

Obviously if your headunit has a mobile internet connection, than this time and date issue won't be there. But in my case it's there, and it needs internet to correct the time and date.
 

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Yes go to User? Applications Settings or something like that? And than you find all your apps, with slider's. If you put a slider on, than it means to auto-start.

Actually I have also set Carlink to auto-start, but it might be possible you run into errors when the headunit doesn't display the correct time and date. Android Auto doesn't always wanna connect, if the time and date aren't correct on the headunit.

Because with deep sleep turned of, it seems so get messed-up with the time and date often when doing a cold boot. Just not sure if this also an issue with wireless Android Auto. If I'm not mistaken, the way wireless Android Auto connects: it setup a WiFi connection between the phone and headunit. Which also correcte the time and date.

Obviously if your headunit has a mobile internet connection, than this time and date issue won't be there. But in my case it's there, and it needs internet to correct the time and date.
I will check there. I use carplay. when I manually start the carlink my phone is already connected, I guess the app starts in background. I don’t have problems with time and date. I turn completely off because i have connected a led strip and a dashcam on the usb and there is still power after 10 minutes.
 

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I will check there. I use carplay. when I manually start the carlink my phone is already connected, I guess the app starts in background. I don’t have problems with time and date. I turn completely off because i have connected a led strip and a dashcam on the usb and there is still power after 10 minutes.
For me it works as follows: as soon as Carlink opens, it will automatically attempt to connect to my phone which is connected to the Bluetooth. Only thing I usually do, is already starting Google maps: because I don't like using voice commands.

Haven't even tried it hehe

But yes the USB dongles stay active, when the unit would be in deep sleep.
 
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For those who want to root their device is quick and easy. 1. Place the contents of this file on a FAT32-formatted flash drive
2. Insert the flash drive into the powered-on main unit and wait until it automatically restarts
3. After the green inscription with the timer appears, the flash drive can be pulled out
4. Wait for the main drive to load, manually install the Magisk apk file. apk
5. Completed
6. As a precaution, your original boot was copied to a flash drive named stock_boot.img. It is taking advantage of I am also sending the most current system file 08/20/22.


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Has anyone checked out this method of installing Magisk, with success?
And, is the included firmware also good for M600 Mekede units?
(like this one, Color: TY70M600S)
Thanks.
 

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