Mi 10t lite still on 12.0.8.0

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xsatquest

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Just checked My daughters mi 10t lite and to My surprise it still runs 12.0.8.0

It seems there are newer versions but her Phone says that No newer version is avalilable when searching.

Also it seems Android security level is december 2020 which seems very outdated.

IT seems that there are newer versions so why Will the Phone not find Them.?
 

Overandout

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Mine is the same. Its my first Xiaomi and it surprised me too.

New ROMs are available for download in the app "MIUIdownloader" and instructions on how to install them can be found here:


The article says however that the ROMs are available in either Recovery or Fastboot formats, but for mine (Gaugin EEA) there is an "OTA" version available also. Strange that the OTA update isn't actually available "OTA"...

I haven't installed any yet as I only started looking today but I'm a newbie with stuff like this so I'll wait and see if anyone else chimes in and gives us some more pointers. I don't really want to brick my phone!
 

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here you can find the latest EEA roms (12.5.7.0) with 2021 october patchlevel

When you scroll up to the top of the page you can find all variants.
Always be sure you download the corresponding RECOVERY image!
Then copy it to your device.
Open settings/ about Phone
tap a couple of times on the middle of the screen, till you get the notification "additional update features on" or similiar.
When you go now to the upper right corner w. the 3 dots, you will now see some new entries, select "Choose update package", then select the downloaded recovery image, and install it.

In your case, since your Versions are heavy outdated I recommend a full backup prior - it can mess up some settings or files.
 

xsatquest

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Mine is the same. Its my first Xiaomi and it surprised me too.

New ROMs are available for download in the app "MIUIdownloader" and instructions on how to install them can be found here:


The article says however that the ROMs are available in either Recovery or Fastboot formats, but for mine (Gaugin EEA) there is an "OTA" version available also. Strange that the OTA update isn't actually available "OTA"...

I haven't installed any yet as I only started looking today but I'm a newbie with stuff like this so I'll wait and see if anyone else chimes in and gives us some more pointers. I don't really want to brick my phone!

If/When you do the update, please report back what version you selected and if it did indeed needed af factory reset to work properly.

To be honest i think it is pretty poor, that this not just works out of the box, i have never heard of another brand where the OTA did not work, it's such a bacis function and i must confess, that if it ends up, needing me to do manual upgrading, this will heavily affect my will to buy og recommend anyone to buy a Xiaomi phone.

It seems the expression "You get what you pay for" is right in this instance, and i would certainly rather have paid a bit more to get something that just works, if i had known that even this basic feature did no work.

I wonder, if i update the phone manually to the latest firmware, if it will get the next updates OTA or this is a recurring thing, to do manual upgrades every time ..
 

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Check you full FW version (including letters) - some ROMs are provided by phone operators and these are well known to delay or block the updates. Global ROMs should not show this behavior, I receive all OTA updates on time (or I just download and apply them manually as described by y1nk0).
 

Overandout

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Thanks for the suggestions but it didn't work.

I pasted the zip file into the phone memory and selected it in the update menu. The error message was Not possible to verify the update. You cannot flash this ROM, or along those lines.

It isn't an operator branded phone and it was brand new out of the box a few days ago so I suppose its possible that it gets an OTA update in the future, but yeah, I'm pretty disappointed with the phone in general really and was hoping that some of the poor features would be improved with an update to Android 11.

Its a work phone so at least I didn't pay for it, but it also means that I can't really do anything which might brick it, I got it to replace a Samsung A50 which I dropped and killed so I have to be careful!

The current ROM is 12.0.8.0(QJSEEUXM) which seems to be an official Mi ROM dated 22 Dec 2021.
 

xsatquest

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I will check the full firmware version and post it here when i get home, but my daughters phone was bought from a large generic electronic retailer and it was bought without any subscription to any phone company and it has no visible branding at all, so i highly doubt that it will be because of this.

But as said...I will post the exact firmware version of the phone later, it would be interesting to see if it is the same as "overandout" has.

I dont know if the phone has actually ever received any updates, but i doubt it, as the safety level is December 2020, and she bought the phone in 2021.

Maybe there is a bug in that particular firmware that prevents it from succesfully updating.

I am thinking of maybe returning the phone to the shop, and reporting it to be faulty, because of the inability to upgrade.

Nowadays firmware and firmware updates are a big part of keeping a phone in "good working order" so the inability to update is certainly in my book to be consideres a serious flaw / defect.

I dont mind to update it manually to be honest, but i would expect it to then begin, updating by itself, i dont want to have to do manual updating every x months.
 
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Overandout

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I will check the full firmware version and post it here when i get home, but my daughters phone was bought from a large generic electronic retailer and it was bought without any subscription to any phone company and it has no visible branding at all, so i highly doubt that it will be because of this.

But as said...I will post the exact firmware version of the phone later, it would be interesting to see if it is the same as "overandout" has.

I dont know if the phone has actually ever received any updates, but i doubt it, as the safety level is December 2020, and she bought the phone in 2021.

Maybe there is a bug in that particular firmware that prevents it from succesfully updating.

I am thinking of maybe returning the phone to the shop, and reporting it to be faulty, because of the inability to upgrade.

Nowadays firmware and firmware updates are a big part of keeping a phone in "good working order" so the inability to update is certainly in my book to be consideres a serious flaw / defect.

I dont mind to update it manually to be honest, but i would expect it to then begin, updating by itself, i dont want to have to do manual updating every x months.
So did you try the method posted by y1nk0? What happened?
The problem with loading the new ROM any other way is that we will be voiding the warranty...
 

xsatquest

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So did you try the method posted by y1nk0? What happened?
The problem with loading the new ROM any other way is that we will be voiding the warranty...
Hi

No i did not try anything yet, y1nk mentions that since the version is very outdated to make a backup, and i have not had time to do this yet.

Will probably do it this weekend, but i kind of need to have her make a backup of her phone....And i dont even know if she thinks it's worth the trouble if she has to start the phone from scratch after the update.

Teenagers have a LOT of apps and stuff on their phone, it's not just a matter of 5 minutes and she is ready to have her phone potentially reset to factory standard

But seeing as you had no luck i am not holding my breath for that method tbh. : )
 

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Overandout

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If you're on V12.0.8.0.QJSEUXM, I would try updating to V12.0.1.0.RJSEUXM first. Sometimes it's not possible to skip one or more updates and you have to install them one by one.

Chronological list of updates with download links: https://xiaomifirmware.com/roms/download-latest-miui-roms-for-mi-10t-lite/
That makes sense. I went the other way and tried to install the penultimate version (12.5.6.0) but that gave the same error as the latest..

I'll try the "sequential" approach later.
 

xsatquest

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So i tried a bit here.

What she has is a phone that has the following firmware installed

MIUI Global 12.0.8.0
Stable
12.0.8.0 (QJSEUXM)

So i tried downloading the MIUI downloader tool and selected older versions, and downloaded the firmware called miui_GAUGINEEAGlobal_V12.0.1.0.RJSEUXM_15bfbef742_11.0.zip

put it in a folder called "downloaded_rom", went to the install updates, pressed the MIUI logo to make the "install from package" appear, selected this file and then it chewed on the file for 10-20 seconds and then it just says :

"Can not confirm update"

"Sorry, flash to this stable version is not allowed"

It feels really strange that a phone that has a firmware version called QJSEUXM is unable to update to a version called RJSEUXM

The only difference is that Q has become R, and since R comes right after Q in the alphabet, i would assume that this is the next version.

I am at a loss here, and the posts i made on the official Xiaomi forum, has gone unanswered.

One weird thing though.

I would expext firmware version 12.0.8.0 to be newer than 12.0.1.0. The naming of version seems a bit strange ??

The 12.0.1.0 version is android 11 and the 12.0.8.0 is android 10, so the 12.0.1.0 is newer it seems.

Still, makes no sense that it can not be updated, the file i downloaded is 2,5 Gbyte, so clearly a full image, not just incremental
 
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_mysiak_

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Try to change your region in system settings (you might even receive an OTA update), updates are sometimes blocked for whatever reason for a particular country. India/China are usually first to receive an update, so they might work.

MIUI sub-version numbers are reset after major Android upgrade, so V12.0.1.0.RJSEUXM (MIUI12 Android 11) is newer than V12.0.8.0.QJSEUXM (MIUI 12 Android 10).

Btw. it seems that there was one more ROM update before moving to Android R (V12.0.9.0.QJSEUXM), you could have more luck with its installation.

List of all ROMs (sort by date and look for EU ROMs): https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/archive/miui/gauguin/
 

xsatquest

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Try to change your region in system settings (you might even receive an OTA update), updates are sometimes blocked for whatever reason for a particular country. India/China are usually first to receive an update, so they might work.

MIUI sub-version numbers are reset after major Android upgrade, so V12.0.1.0.RJSEUXM (MIUI12 Android 11) is newer than V12.0.8.0.QJSEUXM (MIUI 12 Android 10).

Btw. it seems that there was one more ROM update before moving to Android R (V12.0.9.0.QJSEUXM), you could have more luck with its installation.

List of all ROMs (sort by date and look for EU ROMs): https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/archive/miui/gauguin/

Thank you for the reply, i have succesfully downloaded and installed the 12.0.9.0 firmware version on her phone.

So now it says :

MIUI Global 12.0.9.0 (QJSEUXM)

The android security level is now 01-01-2021

I then tried changing region to a lot of different countries, including countries in the African region, and India which i believe is in the asian region, and also a few european, it said "Changing region" multiple times, but no matter what country i tried, it still said "No available updates". This was offcourse with 12.0.9.0.

I feel that the speed with which it says "There is no update" kind of suggests that it might not even check, but i dont know if it does, and just really quickly figures out that there is no updates.

So while she got a marginally newer firmware with a 1 month newer security date, it still refuses to find OTA updates with 12.0.9.0 Android 10 by itself.

I also tried re-running the downloaded 12.0.1.0 Android 11 version i had previously downloaded, but it still fails with the same message as before.

It seems the update routine for this phone is really screwed. It was able to do the manual update to the newer android 10 but it refuses to do anything with the android 11 firmwares.

If anyone has more succes, i would like to hear about it. My teenage daughter is not prepared to do a full factory reset, so unless someone finds a way to do this without having to reset the phone, i think she will just want to keep the phone on the current firmware.

PS. I also tried disconnecting from our wifi, in case our firewall was blocking, but on 5G it still does not find any updates, really fast.
 

Overandout

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I can report the same as xsatquest.

The update to 12.0.9.0 has worked but thats as far as it goes.

I would quite happily do a factory reset to get to Android 11 as long as it doesn't involve unlocking the boot loader or anything else that invalidates the warranty.
 

Overandout

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I have tried to follow some youtube tutorials on using MiFlash Pro to load the recovery image, just in case.

I tried to flash the first Android 11 version of the ROM from here:


but the MiFlash tool gave the same error as the phone gives (more or less), Sorry, flash to this stable version is not allowed".

So I tried flashing 12.5.7 from here:


But its exactly the same...
 

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I can report the same as xsatquest.

The update to 12.0.9.0 has worked but thats as far as it goes.

I would quite happily do a factory reset to get to Android 11 as long as it doesn't involve unlocking the boot loader or anything else that invalidates the warranty.
I know that bootloader unlocking could be a PITA, but it does not invalidate the warranty (at least in Europe).

Edit: could any of you capture logcat during failed attempt for ROM installation? This might provide additional info on why exactly is it failing. Also you might give ADB sideload a chance, I don't expect it to really work, but maybe there will be some extra info too.
 
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    i hope they get their act together, the solution here is to let my daughter just have the phone until it dies, but i will certainly remember this and if her phone is being "left behind" then i can guarantee that i will not be buying xiaomi, i was a bit sceptical when we bought it but thought, we might give it a chance, but it seems this will be the first and last xiaomi "we" will ever own.

    Next time i think we will cough up just a bit more and buy a Oneplus, i have had those for years and they have always had pretty good update and i have never had or heard of a phone that did not get updated. My oneplus was updated all the way from android 6 to android 9, which i find amazing.
    Hi,

    Just to let you know my 10T Lite had the exact same problem stuck on V12.0.9.0 QJSEUXM (Android 10) but I've now sorted it where it now has V12.5.7.0 - RJSEUXM (Android 11)

    It appears that V12.0.8.0 - QJSEUXM (Android 10) will only update to V12.0.9.0 - QJSEUXM (Android 10) then gets stuck and will no longer update. Probably due to a bug in the firmware build.

    I successfully updated mine but the only way to do it is to Flash it via FASTBOOT with a PC.

    I don't have time currently to go into detail but basically..

    1. Put phone in FASTBOOT (hold Vol down & Power buttons) then connect to PC via USB.

    2.Download and Use Mi Unlock Tool to unlock phone. (Takes 7 days / 168 hours). Disconnect phone then wait 7 days.

    After 7 days...

    3. Download firmware V12.0.1.0 - RJSEUXM (Android 11) Zip file ..and Unzip file to PC. Note : yes lower version.

    4. Put phone in FASTBOOT again (hold Vol down & Power buttons) then connect to USB via USB.

    5. Download and Use Mi Flash Pro Tool - Select Mi Flash on the Tab. Select the unzipped firmware folder on your PC above... then press the Flash button. Phone should Flash in about 15-20 mins.

    6. Once flashed disconnect from PC then Reboot Phone. It should then flag up with a software update itself. Keep selecting the updates until it gets to the latest version.

    Job done. Enjoy !
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    Fair enough, I didn't bother with the back up because the phone is so new I hardly have anything configured anyway.
    If you're on V12.0.8.0.QJSEUXM, I would try updating to V12.0.1.0.RJSEUXM first. Sometimes it's not possible to skip one or more updates and you have to install them one by one.

    Chronological list of updates with download links: https://xiaomifirmware.com/roms/download-latest-miui-roms-for-mi-10t-lite/
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    Capturing logcat is pretty easy, you just need to enable debugging mode on the phone, connect it to the PC and start "adb logcat" from the command line on the PC. Once you start collecting logs, replicate the issue, stop the logcat and upload the logs. You can do 2 logs, one for failed ROM installation, second one for update search from system updater app.

    XDA has nice quick quide - https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-take-logs-android/
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    So you recommend flashing the latest ROM rather than a previous version?

    I have to admit that I didn't try the flash described by Techfreak becasue I remembered that my phone was on a previous version when it came out of the box (I didn't have time to check which version was preinstalled) and it updated to V12.0.8.0 when first turned on.
    So, if we flash back to 12.0.1.0 surely the updates will just take us back to 12.0.8.0 again and get stuck again?
    Yes. You want to flash the fastboot version of any RJSEUXM ROM.

    R = Android 11
    JS = Mi 10t Lite
    EU = Region
    XM = Xiaomi (carrier)

    Your phone starts with Q which is Android 10. If you flash with a ROM that starts with Q you'll be stuck on 10.

    Here the latest fastboot is 12.5.9.0. at a whopping 5.4gigs.