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invisiblewave

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XDRdaniel said:
Yeah I guess you're right. I had phones with wireless charging but I was only using it to show off... Dunno, I hope one day we get true wireless charging like having a dedicated room where the devices charge without having to place them on a plate

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The 5G model is also missing a bunch of LTE bands that the original device has. For the foreseeable future, LTE performance is far more important to me than 5G.

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Xiaomi really screwed both sets of customers when they released the 5G. It was obviously released mostly for bragging rights about 5G, it hasn't sold in large numbers so there's no urgency to support it with new software releases, and at the same time they managed to make all the original purchasers feel like they'd bought an obsolete device that was superseded a couple of months later.
 
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invisiblewave said:
The 5G model is also missing a bunch of LTE bands that the original device has. For the foreseeable future, LTE performance is far more important to me than 5G.

Hey invisible wave,

Which LTE bands is the 5G missing? Do you have any info about that?

For me on the global ROM the LTE performance in the countryside is a bit poor and 5g is disabled in Vodafone de. Thinking to switch to the EU or vf rom
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genstef said:
invisiblewave said:
The 5G model is also missing a bunch of LTE bands that the original device has. For the foreseeable future, LTE performance is far more important to me than 5G.

Hey invisible wave,

Which LTE bands is the 5G missing? Do you have any info about that?

For me on the global ROM the LTE performance in the countryside is a bit poor and 5g is disabled in Vodafone de. Thinking to switch to the EU or vf rom
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Mi Mix 3 4G: 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500), 66(1700/2100

Mi Mix 3 5G: 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)

The 5G is also NSA only, I believe. Switching roms won't change the band coverage. Plus no wireless charging which makes it a non-starter for me.
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invisiblewave said:
genstef said:
Mi Mix 3 4G: 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500), 66(1700/2100

Mi Mix 3 5G: 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)

The 5G is also NSA only, I believe. Switching roms won't change the band coverage. Plus no wireless charging which makes it a non-starter for me.
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NSA?
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genstef

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so it seems that all the bands in germany are supported in the hardware of the phone.

If I understood correctly the phone is not connecting to the 5G Network and some 4G Bands because of the software of the phone.

I am currently on 10.3.21.0(PEMEUXM) and according to this post in german https://www.mydealz.de/comments/permalink/24270046 it is really the reason for the missing 5G option. Looking to switch to PEMMIXM or PEMEUVF now as described there.
 
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invisiblewave said:
genstef said:
Mi Mix 3 4G: 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500), 66(1700/2100

Mi Mix 3 5G: 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)

The 5G is also NSA only, I believe. Switching roms won't change the band coverage. Plus no wireless charging which makes it a non-starter for me.
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Where did you get a list of all these 5g networks that this device carries? To my knowledge it's only ONE 5g network that's available listed here https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-mix-3-5g unless your not in these markets.
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I don't give a f. to 5G, I bought one of these as a gift for my mother because the non-5G model was the most convincing phone in this search
I wanted for OLED display, NFC, recent device release date, released with Android 9 or 10, Qualcomm chipset (seeking for longer support), and lowest possible street price. I've got the 5G model for 290€, discarding the older non-5G model because of newer SoC and larger battery, despite lack of wireless charging I'm actually used to for myself on my Lumia. The only alternative would have been the Pixel 3a, which also lacks wireless charging, has worse SoC, better support, and is a little pricier.

What would you choose instead according to my same criteria? I'm asking because I will replace my Lumia as well this spring according to similar criteria, and I'm likely to opt for the non-5G model for myself, unless Pixel 4a will support wireless charging.
 
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Xiaomi Mi 9. This phone doesn't have great support at all. It is a real lot behind with updates. Still on Miui 10 and Android 9, also it has a small community. Mi 9 has Miui 11 and Android 10 for a few months already, also the community is much more expanded.
 
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draand28 said:
Xiaomi Mi 9. This phone doesn't have great support at all. It is a real lot behind with updates. Still on Miui 10 and Android 9, also it has a small community. Mi 9 has Miui 11 and Android 10 for a few months already, also the community is much more expanded.
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+1. In hindsight, I wish I'd waited a few months for the Mi 9. The only drawback compared to the MM35G is the battery, with the Pro version being nearly twice the price. The MM35G is a dead end, but it's still an awful lot of phone for the money (as is the Mi 9 and the brand new Mi Mix 2S which I just picked up for $250).
 
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can you please point US to a " best thread or post " we can read and finally fully understand those differences we should consider, while evaluating most appropriate and suitable software/firmware ?

- OFFICIAL STOCK firmware: [ miIUI china - CN ] [ miUI EEA rom ] [ miUI global rom ]
- CUSTOM FIRMWARE/ROM: [ miUI EU rom ] [ xiaomi.EU rom ]

take care,
marc



EDIT : those pages with hypertext and web application [MiFirm] won't highlight differences from one firmware version to another and among those five [ 5 ] different aforementioned firmware versions and yet available for same mi-device model, we want to understand whether any isn't requiring boot loader unlocking and to then switch to a firmware version in the list above.
[ reason for asking: we tested some official and stock firmware features also found in ' settings >> about phone >> system update >> ... >> download latest update ' , we gathered a zip file is placed in a folder [ downloaded\rom ] and firmware is then updated on subsequent restart. stock and original firmware built-in feature and a official firmware switch process won't require boot loader unlocking. ]

where to read about differences between [ mi-device unlocking ] ; [ mi unlocking ] ; [ unlocking boot loader ] and yet [ OEM unlocking ] also found in DEV settings ?
 
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    invisiblewave
    XDRdaniel said:
    Yeah I guess you're right. I had phones with wireless charging but I was only using it to show off... Dunno, I hope one day we get true wireless charging like having a dedicated room where the devices charge without having to place them on a plate

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    The 5G model is also missing a bunch of LTE bands that the original device has. For the foreseeable future, LTE performance is far more important to me than 5G.

    ---------- Post added at 08:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:15 AM ----------

    Xiaomi really screwed both sets of customers when they released the 5G. It was obviously released mostly for bragging rights about 5G, it hasn't sold in large numbers so there's no urgency to support it with new software releases, and at the same time they managed to make all the original purchasers feel like they'd bought an obsolete device that was superseded a couple of months later.
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    cooldude20000 said:
    Yes but stable is miui 10 with pie. Really is a poor show on xiaomis part you think a flagship would be the first to update.
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    Yeah, this is why the mix 3 5G will be my last Xiaomi device.
    Budget phones are updated before flagships
    No support for Google Arcore
    No widevine L1 support
    Imagine calling this a "flagship" device then do this
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    invisiblewave said:
    Is the Mix 3 5G really a flagship? I've always viewed the Mix line as more of an experimental testbed. Given the hardware peculiarities and the extra 5G drivers involved, it's probably also more time-consuming to keep it current, not to mention the low sales numbers which mean it makes more sense to update the mass-market phones first. Hard to call a phone a "flagship" if it only costs $500 and doesn't have wireless charging, imo.
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    Does the mix 3 5g not have wireless charging? Pretty rubbish if not when the mix 3 does.
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    genstef said:
    invisiblewave said:
    The 5G model is also missing a bunch of LTE bands that the original device has. For the foreseeable future, LTE performance is far more important to me than 5G.

    Hey invisible wave,

    Which LTE bands is the 5G missing? Do you have any info about that?

    For me on the global ROM the LTE performance in the countryside is a bit poor and 5g is disabled in Vodafone de. Thinking to switch to the EU or vf rom
    Click to expand...
    Click to collapse


    Mi Mix 3 4G: 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 25(1900), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500), 66(1700/2100

    Mi Mix 3 5G: 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 34(2000), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)

    The 5G is also NSA only, I believe. Switching roms won't change the band coverage. Plus no wireless charging which makes it a non-starter for me.
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