[MODULE][Terminal] Debloater v17.3.2 - Debloat Systemlessly!

[Avengement]

how did you try and install it?...because theres only one correct way to do that, and thats via magisk manager....

The only way I'm aware of doing it now is through the fox magisk modual manager since magisk dropped support for installing moduals directly through the app a few versions back apparently. Once it's installed it shows up as a module in magisk but when prompting the command in a terminal on the device you get the error seen in the screenshot I posted above. This is the first fime I've installed debloater this way though and now it's not working...

 

[73sydney]

The only way I'm aware of doing it now is through the fox magisk modual manager since magisk dropped support for installing moduals directly through the app a few versions back apparently. Once it's installed it shows up as a module in magisk but when prompting the command in a terminal on the device you get the error seen in the screenshot I posted above. This is the first fime I've installed debloater this way though and now it's not working...

Magisk Manager never dropped support for installing modules...i use it to install every module i have stored locally in my backup (downloaded from separate module repos), which i copy onto storage on the device itself every new flash

The Magisk Repo was removed from within Magisk Manager...thats a different thing entirely...2 separate things

As much as i like Fox's Magisk Module Manager, it can be buggy on occasion....

Also it tends to download the source.zip from repos (which is different from a release zip - which has a proper internal module structure).

I suggest if you have issues you download the module you want directly from the actual source module repo or in this case, since theres no release on the repo for this module, the one attached here

and install it via Magisk Manager...last icon on the bottom menu bar....

OR, if Fox's MMM fails to install it properly, and it seems it has...

you'll likely have to:

1) Open the zip downloaded via Fox's MMM
2) Copy all the files from the subfolder in the zip, into a new folder, so all files are in the root folder
3) Rezip,
4) Install using the Magisk Manager...last icon on the bottom menu bar....

I know which i do and would rather do

If my comments about the difference in the structure inside a source.zip and a release zip (in this case ) download both the release.zip and master/source.zip from releases on a moduel repo and open them, it should be crystal clear then....Magisk Manager, the traditional way to install modules expects to find files in the root folder to tell it what to do....a master/source.zip will have a subfolder and will fail

Fox's MMM downloads the master/source.zip and then does its thing (i assume it tries to extract and repackage the master/source. zip into a correctly formatted module zip?) to try and install them, it can go badly wrong...

 

[Avengement]

Magisk Manager never dropped support for installing modules...i use it to install every module i have stored locally in my backup (downloaded from separate module repos), which i copy onto storage on the device itself every new flash

The Magisk Repo was removed from within Magisk Manager...thats a different thing entirely...2 separate things

As much as i like Fox's Magisk Module Manager, it can be buggy on occasion....

Also it tends to download the source.zip from repos (which is different from a release zip - which has a proper internal module structure).

I suggest if you have issues you download the module you want directly from the actual source module repo or in this case, since theres no release on the repo for this module, the one attached here

and install it via Magisk Manager...last icon on the bottom menu bar....

OR, if Fox's MMM fails to install it properly, and it seems it has...

you'll likely have to:

1) Open the zip downloaded via Fox's MMM
2) Copy all the files from the subfolder in the zip, into a new folder, so all files are in the root folder
3) Rezip,
4) Install using the Magisk Manager...last icon on the bottom menu bar....

I know which i do and would rather do

If my comments about the difference in the structure inside a source.zip and a release zip (in this case ) download both the release.zip and master/source.zip from releases on a moduel repo and open them, it should be crystal clear then....Magisk Manager, the traditional way to install modules expects to find files in the root folder to tell it what to do....a master/source.zip will have a subfolder and will fail

Fox's MMM downloads the master/source.zip and then does its thing (i assume it tries to extract and repackage the master/source. zip into a correctly formatted module zip?) to try and install them, it can go badly wrong...

You are right. When I downloaded the most recent version of magisk and opened the module tab looking for debloater only to see that the list was empty, I went looking for a solution and another users post claimed support was dropped and to install the fox magisk modual manager to pick up where it had left off. Clearly they were wrong because installing the zip you linked via the internal storage option which I didn't even initially see in the module tab has worked perfectly.

Thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. Much appreciated.

 

[73sydney]

You are right. When I downloaded the most recent version of magisk and opened the module tab looking for debloater only to see that the list was empty, I went looking for a solution and another users post claimed support was dropped and to install the fox magisk modual manager to pick up where it had left off. Clearly they were wrong because installing the zip you linked via the internal storage option which I didn't even initially see in the module tab has worked perfectly.

Thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. Much appreciated.

Fox MMM gets it right most of the time, but every now and then....so keep the manual method (visit the module repo if possible, download a zip from the releases section and flash via Magisk Manager) handy as a backup

 

[Arealhooman]

This does not work for me. For some reason the app list does not load and when I give package name it can’t find it.

 

[Avengement]

By the way, what is the terminal command to individually remove packages that aren't populated in the debloater lists? I've done it before but can't remember what the terminal syntax is. Also, is there a way to permanently delete these apps? This newest version of debloater seems to only be temporary or "systemless" so if I were to ever remove debloater the removed apps would simply return...

 

[73sydney]

This does not work for me. For some reason the app list does not load and when I give package name it can’t find it.

Try the alternate debloater module, its far more recent, though wkrs differently (not from a terminal - read the documentation)

https://xdaforums.com/t/magisk-module-systemless-debloater-replace.4180083/

By the way, what is the terminal command to individually remove packages that aren't populated in the debloater lists? I've done it before but can't remember what the terminal syntax is. Also, is there a way to permanently delete these apps? This newest version of debloater seems to only be temporary or "systemless" so if I were to ever remove debloater the removed apps would simply return...

The while poiint of using magisk is to do things systemlessly (i.e. to avoid the various OS and app checks noticing there have been any modifications to system) Most if not all modem SAR (System As Root) devices do not have a readable system, and while it is possible to make them so, its highly NOT recommended

If this debloater doesnt work for you, and it is not maintained and has had issues for a number of years now, use the alternate one, mentioned just above. Its personally what i use now

 

[bbortel93]

how did you try and install it?...because theres only one correct way to do that, and thats via magisk manager....

Exactly, I use Fox Magisk module installer to get it done on every fresh flash I do... Works flawlessly for me.

 

[Avengement]

Try the alternate debloater module, its far more recent, though wkrs differently (not from a terminal - read the documentation)

https://xdaforums.com/t/magisk-module-systemless-debloater-replace.4180083/

The while poiint of using magisk is to do things systemlessly (i.e. to avoid the various OS and app checks noticing there have been any modifications to system) Most if not all modem SAR (System As Root) devices do not have a readable system, and while it is possible to make them so, its highly NOT recommended

If this debloater doesnt work for you, and it is not maintained and has had issues for a number of years now, use the alternate one, mentioned just above. Its personally what i use nowt

Try the alternate debloater module, its far more recent, though wkrs differently (not from a terminal - read the documentation)

https://xdaforums.com/t/magisk-module-systemless-debloater-replace.4180083/

The while poiint of using magisk is to do things systemlessly (i.e. to avoid the various OS and app checks noticing there have been any modifications to system) Most if not all modem SAR (System As Root) devices do not have a readable system, and while it is possible to make them so, its highly NOT recommended

If this debloater doesnt work for you, and it is not maintained and has had issues for a number of years now, use the alternate one, mentioned just above. Its personally what i use now

The alternative "debloater replace" module you reference is the one that fox magisk module manager comes with that I previously had the install problem come to light after attempting to use. Whether that's a problem with the module itself or how it was installed I don't know. However, how is it different from the regular debloater? I see that it apparently installs a blank dummy apk in place of the actual one. How does the standard debloater work? Are either of these methods permanent in the sense that if the module is removed or disabled the "removed" bloat apps won't return? I personally don't care if my device returns a positive safetynet check. I don't need OTA updates since I'm running a custom ROM that needs to be reflashed if I decide to update and I don't use any banking apps since I prefer to manually login via a website interface for stronger security.

Also, I'm still looking for the way to remove other bloat apps that don't appear in the debloat module lists. Just need the terminal command since it's been a couple years and I've forgotten it.

Thanks again.

 

[73sydney]

Exactly, I use Fox Magisk module installer to get it done on every fresh flash I do... Works flawlessly for me.

While im glad it works for you, but youre just assuming it works all the time for everyone, and clearly it doesnt. Also i have been a tester for Fox MMM since the beginning (its installed on my device as we speak) and had my own modules on the replacement repo at one point, so im not anti Fox MMM, far from it....but it can glitch, because ive seen it personally happen many times, hence why i gave the alternate method to still use Magisk Manager an alternative...

And the Magisk Manager or terminal (magisk --install-module <zip>) are still the only officially sanctioned ways to install a module (factual comment)

 

[PhYrE85]

Installed Debloater_(Terminal_Emulator)-v17.3.3(76).zip via magisk and getting the above error in the terminal. Module is listed in magisk though. Any ideas?

 

[73sydney]

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Installed Debloater_(Terminal_Emulator)-v17.3.3(76).zip via magisk and getting the above error in the terminal. Module is listed in magisk though. Any ideas?

did you reboot after you installed the module?

i think not.....

 

[PhYrE85]

i think not.....

You think wrong. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[73sydney]

You think wrong. Thanks for the suggestion.

that has all the hallmarks of not having rebooted as the file doesnt exist in the %path% until the device has been rebooted and the file has been overlayed in %path%

its the most common issue people have with missing commands after installing a magisk module

if you think this isnt the case, then please install the module again and before you exit the magisk manager install screen, click the save button to save the install log and post here

 

[PhYrE85]

Here you go

 

[73sydney]

Here you go

Cheers, that shows its indeed installed correctly

can you try manually confirming the presense of the debloat file, either by a root file explorer in /system/xbin

or via terminal:

su -c find /system -name "debloat" 2> /dev/null

 

[PhYrE85]

It does exist and does look valid to me. Want to see it?

 

[73sydney]

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It does exist and does look valid to me. Want to see it?

Weird one, have you tried running it via

su -c /system/xbin/debloat

 

[PhYrE85]

Weird one, have you tried running it via

su -c /system/xbin/debloat

This does work!! Thanks so much. Any idea what might cause this? Got no problem running any other module just by command.

 

[73sydney]

This does work!! Thanks so much. Any idea what might cause this? Got no problem running any other module just by command.

Glad that worked, because that was like the last logical step before i tapped out

It appears as /system/xbin isnt in the PATH....