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Computational photography, it's widely known, Google SuperResZoom it's the same approach. All raw info it's developed in some way in every picture, every camera does. But the phones, does with more strength.
 
Let's all be honest here...it's been over a 1 month since the phone was released...how many of us here have taken 28 photos of all faces of the moon? Forget the moon, how many of us here have been using the camera app exclusively more than other apps on the device? Your phone's battery history app should give all the top used apps over the week and possibly the month and I'm sure the camera won't even figure in the top ten for the majority of us. This whole moon photography will wane away after 2 months!

Computational photography has been in the business ever since Pixel 1. Although Google rules this field, over the years almost every android OEM has their own version of computational photography. This is why the same scene looks legitimately different on different phones. And, if anyone argues that iPhone has no computational photography, then they should be shot dead!

Let's all enjoy our devices for it is...controversies will always come and go! The fact is the S23U is a good product out of Samsung's floors in a long time!
 

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The essential part for me is that this can be deactivated (Scene optimizer), so you can benefit of AI but you are not forced to do so...

That a smartphone with its tiny lenses has to rely heavily on computational photography is no real news :)

And I never understood why this focus on moon shots has developed over the past (aside from the fact that its a readily available test object for high-zoom images) - while its impressive what a smartphone can do its still miles away from "real" moon photos which of course in return require much more equipment to accomplish this....
 
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... I never understood why this focus on moon shots has developed over the past (aside from the fact that its a readily available test object for high-zoom images) - while its impressive what a smartphone can do its still miles away from "real" moon photos which of course in return require much more equipment to accomplish this....
A smartphone can take photos of the Moon of that far , that too so clearly!
- This sounds good and echoes well and so is a good selling point maybe.
 
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We can say that some people have ample time in their life and they don't know what to do with that other than make fuss about how good investigating knowledge they possess than anyone else. Anyway, here's a 2 shot of Moon. The warmer times is from Pixel 6 Pro zoom lens from back March 2022. And the right one is from Galaxy S23U zoom lens.
Side note: people should simply enjoy taking pictures and not making fuss about how fake the pictures are. Most of the same professional photographers forget that they use 3rd party tools like Lightroom, Photoshop to make the photos look unrealistic than they actually shot ✌️🙏
 

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We can say that some people have ample time in their life and they don't know what to do with that other than make fuss about how good investigating knowledge they possess than anyone else...
Not exactly I would say. A tech reviewer making users aware of what they are getting for their money is a good deed and consumers discussing about it is probably not a fuss. Tech enthusiasts have ample time for it ofcourse. 🙏
 

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What makes me laugh is this is well documented, and most youtuber already made video about this on previous samsung and huawei phones....

Not because the s23 is new, that the topic is new....

damn influencers.
 
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Computational photography, it's widely known, Google SuperResZoom it's the same approach. All raw info it's developed in some way in every picture, every camera does. But the phones, does with more strength.
S23U turned a rough paper cutout of a Moon picture into a real Moon🌝 that iPhone 14 Pro and Google Pixel 7 Pro did not. In RAW terms, it's simply a fake picture of the Moon.

Fast forward to 03:35

 
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I don't know where have you been all this time but AI processing on photos have been there since 2019 probably. Didn't you always wondered why google pixel for 3 straight years were taking best photos with same camera sensor? They were way ahead of competition with their AI image processing that's why. That's the answer. Naturally all camera sensors are way to small for taking amazing photos in most scenarios that's where AI magic happens. Every phone does that
 
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I don't know where have you been all this time but AI processing on photos have been there since 2019 probably. Didn't you always wondered why google pixel for 3 straight years were taking best photos with same camera sensor? They were way ahead of competition with their AI image processing that's why. That's the answer. Naturally all camera sensors are way to small for taking amazing photos in most scenarios that's where AI magic happens. Every phone does that
Using a phone I took a picture of a rotten potato and astonishingly it looks like a fresh tomato when I checked.

There's nothing wrong in it and shoutout to the phone because it's Artificial Intelligence doing it.
 
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Using a phone I took a picture of a rotten potato and astonishingly it looks like a fresh tomato when I checked.

There's nothing wrong in it and shoutout to the phone because it's Artificial Intelligence doing it.
Does it see faces in the cat litter?🤣

How does it do with faces, the gold standard?
If it can do that NASA technology trick that be cool.
 
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Using a phone I took a picture of a rotten potato and astonishingly it looks like a fresh tomato when I checked.

There's nothing wrong in it and shoutout to the phone because it's Artificial Intelligence doing it.
Not sure that's an accurate analogy though, although I understand you're just trying to make a point haha. But I think it may actually be misleading.

That analogy might be good if Samsung's moonshot resulted in an incredibly detailed picture of the sun, AND the actual reality/appearance of the moon was "rotten" (not sure what that would actually look like though haha).

Are there side by side pictures of the moon taken by DSLR cameras compared with Samsung's moonshots?

EDIT: interesting article on this from over 2-years ago when the first Samsung phone (S21 Ultra) was taking such moonshots: https://www.inverse.com/input/revie...hotos-investigation-super-resolution-analysis
 
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I think the issue has been blown out of proportion all due to an idiot on reddit. Everyone knows its AI enhanced. Fake is what Huawei did a few years ago. Samsung has clearly described what it does in its support pages. These so-called YouTubers are half-assed smart talkers. Let's always remember good content & production value on YT does not equate to truth. And dare they say anything against the fruit logo. See them sweet talk their way when Crapple officially introduces such features.

Check out this tweet & his recent timeline from a professional photographer where he exposes all these so called experts:

Side note: I took early morning pics of the sun and the AI tried to render a sunspot (see top right in one of the pics below).

A good use of 10X and AI is when we zoom 100x and we can see how it tried to read the license plate of a car which is almost 400 mts away.
 

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I think the issue has been blown out of proportion all due to an idiot on reddit. Everyone knows its AI enhanced. Fake is what Huawei did a few years ago. Samsung has clearly described what it does in its support pages. These so-called YouTubers are half-assed smart talkers. Let's always remember good content & production value on YT does not equate to truth. And dare they say anything against the fruit logo. See them sweet talk their way when Crapple officially introduces such features.

Check out this tweet & his recent timeline from a professional photographer where he exposes all these so called experts:

Side note: I took early morning pics of the sun and the AI tried to render a sunspot (see top right in one of the pics below).

A good use of 10X and AI is when we zoom 100x and we can see how it tried to read the license plate of a car which is almost 400 mts away.
I don't think that's a sunspot. It could be the mercury planet. Much more clearly visible here.
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Before we leave Moon to explore other celestial objects further away and beyond, I think we should ask another pressing question: is the Moon flat?
:cool:It certainly appears that way on all the Samsung Galaxy astronomy pictures.
 

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    Let's all be honest here...it's been over a 1 month since the phone was released...how many of us here have taken 28 photos of all faces of the moon? Forget the moon, how many of us here have been using the camera app exclusively more than other apps on the device? Your phone's battery history app should give all the top used apps over the week and possibly the month and I'm sure the camera won't even figure in the top ten for the majority of us. This whole moon photography will wane away after 2 months!

    Computational photography has been in the business ever since Pixel 1. Although Google rules this field, over the years almost every android OEM has their own version of computational photography. This is why the same scene looks legitimately different on different phones. And, if anyone argues that iPhone has no computational photography, then they should be shot dead!

    Let's all enjoy our devices for it is...controversies will always come and go! The fact is the S23U is a good product out of Samsung's floors in a long time!
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    Computational photography, it's widely known, Google SuperResZoom it's the same approach. All raw info it's developed in some way in every picture, every camera does. But the phones, does with more strength.
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    Fakes are more than just the Moon..

    Welcome to the smartphone world. AI is processing everything for almost 4years if not more.

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    For example see this screenshot about google pixel camera.


    It's not fake, It's AI putting some details on top of real picture. That's not the same. Fake is when you put completely different picture on top of original. Come back to reality these small smartphones can't produce amazing photos in every scenario without AI.


    These photos are still more real than Kardashians and similar plastic humans in our world :D :D
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    I don't know where have you been all this time but AI processing on photos have been there since 2019 probably. Didn't you always wondered why google pixel for 3 straight years were taking best photos with same camera sensor? They were way ahead of competition with their AI image processing that's why. That's the answer. Naturally all camera sensors are way to small for taking amazing photos in most scenarios that's where AI magic happens. Every phone does that
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    At least my kitten still looks like a kitten. Next update will fix that...
    Mine used to look like a kitten...until it looked like a pie.