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paparazzo79

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Nov 27, 2012
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Well,
I expected a lot more from a phone that costed over 1000 $ when released.
Although I did purchased it used,many things frustrate me a lot so lets go by order:
1. Yellowish tint on screen which makes white color not so white,like the night filter option is ON,screen is not changed on this phone,so only thing I could do is go to vivid settings decrease red channel all the way and set colors to more cooler tone,but just setting to Natural display settings yellow tone is more then noticeable..
Dunno is it just my phone or any others experience this issue.
2.Battery is terrible.I noticed last night drop of 4 % while only GSM in 4 hours so I suppose while in stanby it looses 1 % per hour,my Ulefone Power 5S doesn't loose any battery capacity while ON though it has 13 000 mAh battery.
This issue I couldn't resolve,I suppose it is like that way,because I had same issue before with Note 8 which was bought used,though phone was not used that much because I was frustrated with battery lasting at most 1 day of mediocre usage.
While this phone is on WiFi battery loses capacity drastically.
I even switched it to power saving mode ON,turned off all gestures,turned black theme on,every possible way to save battery but still loosing capacity with simple GSM signal.
3 Wifi quality signal is pretty bad,even my good old S7 edge beats the 1000 $ phone,it usually is droping signal from other networks id there are many outdoors but indoors it has good quality signal.
I figured out for unknown reason that when I turn OFF power saving signal I do get better Wifi quality/strength signal,dunno why,is it just me phone or what the f..k.
4. Very bad sound quality from caller ovet network,while outdoors I can barely hear someone talking while making calls.
Dunno what else,if I remember I will post in same topic,don't think it's just my phone because I see many comlaining about this on this very own forum.
I can't tell anything positive for a phone that costed 1000 $ and I can't get over these things,so Samsung what where you thinking when you released this phone.
No more Samsung phones for me,next I will try Huawei.
 

Bomn

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have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.

I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...

I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...

Happy camper here ...
 

blackhawk

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Jun 23, 2020
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have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.

I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...

I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...

Happy camper here ...
Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
Its still one of the best displays out there.
This phone looks and runs like it was new.

Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.

Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.


OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
 
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paparazzo79

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Nov 27, 2012
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Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
Its still one of the best displays out there.
This phone looks and runs like it was new.

Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.

Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.


OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
I meant on used phones.
 
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blackhawk

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Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
I meant on used phones.
The 10+ has slightly better display color accuracy and better battery life.
The new one I got is loaded with Android 10 and seems to run strong.
More than likely the 20U's will come with 11, no way I'm touching that OS version. 11 will eat into the increase in CPU speed of the 20U.
Android 11 is the biggest strike against the 20U and Samsung version of it is especially not a charm.

I like the laser focus on the 20U but the cam hump is a burden. Like the faster spen response as well. The 5G be nice but not needed.

Many of the sellers stateside aren't showing full specs ie the variant of the 20U they are selling. A lot of seedy crap going on with both models but it's worse with the 20U.
It became a major headache to the point where it simply wasn't worth the risk. Getting a factory sealed new unit is important to me as is getting exactly what I want. The 10+ still had one surprise Q instead of Pie, but it turned out not to be a ball breaker. May even update my older one to that version.
 
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    have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.

    I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...

    I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...

    Happy camper here ...
    Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
    The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
    Its still one of the best displays out there.
    This phone looks and runs like it was new.

    Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
    The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.

    Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
    The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
    The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.


    OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
    Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
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    Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
    The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
    Its still one of the best displays out there.
    This phone looks and runs like it was new.

    Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
    The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.

    Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
    The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
    The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.


    OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
    Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
    Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
    Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
    I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
    But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
    I meant on used phones.
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    Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
    Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
    I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
    But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
    I meant on used phones.
    The 10+ has slightly better display color accuracy and better battery life.
    The new one I got is loaded with Android 10 and seems to run strong.
    More than likely the 20U's will come with 11, no way I'm touching that OS version. 11 will eat into the increase in CPU speed of the 20U.
    Android 11 is the biggest strike against the 20U and Samsung version of it is especially not a charm.

    I like the laser focus on the 20U but the cam hump is a burden. Like the faster spen response as well. The 5G be nice but not needed.

    Many of the sellers stateside aren't showing full specs ie the variant of the 20U they are selling. A lot of seedy crap going on with both models but it's worse with the 20U.
    It became a major headache to the point where it simply wasn't worth the risk. Getting a factory sealed new unit is important to me as is getting exactly what I want. The 10+ still had one surprise Q instead of Pie, but it turned out not to be a ball breaker. May even update my older one to that version.
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    Well, I sincerely do not recognize what you describe as a note 10+, not a single issue you mention has happened to me, if you are so frustrated, sell it
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    have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.

    I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...

    I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...

    Happy camper here ...
    2
    have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.

    I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...

    I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...

    Happy camper here ...
    Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
    The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
    Its still one of the best displays out there.
    This phone looks and runs like it was new.

    Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
    The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.

    Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
    The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
    The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.


    OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
    Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
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    Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
    The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
    Its still one of the best displays out there.
    This phone looks and runs like it was new.

    Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
    The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.

    Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
    The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
    The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.


    OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
    Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
    Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
    Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
    I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
    But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
    I meant on used phones.
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    Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
    Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
    I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
    But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
    I meant on used phones.
    The 10+ has slightly better display color accuracy and better battery life.
    The new one I got is loaded with Android 10 and seems to run strong.
    More than likely the 20U's will come with 11, no way I'm touching that OS version. 11 will eat into the increase in CPU speed of the 20U.
    Android 11 is the biggest strike against the 20U and Samsung version of it is especially not a charm.

    I like the laser focus on the 20U but the cam hump is a burden. Like the faster spen response as well. The 5G be nice but not needed.

    Many of the sellers stateside aren't showing full specs ie the variant of the 20U they are selling. A lot of seedy crap going on with both models but it's worse with the 20U.
    It became a major headache to the point where it simply wasn't worth the risk. Getting a factory sealed new unit is important to me as is getting exactly what I want. The 10+ still had one surprise Q instead of Pie, but it turned out not to be a ball breaker. May even update my older one to that version.