My Xperia Z & Samsung S4

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barondebxl

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color only wash out when looking at an angle its not like its complete white when you look straight at it.

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this is how you distinguish between a photographer eyes and the normal user or consumer eyes...photographer stay true to their color while consumer really like that saturation.
How do you call the XZ screen true colors when its washed out?
 

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uh what?...if you want dark black u dont crank up the brightness, as a matter of fact if you reduce brightness the washout will reduce a lot.
Youre missing the point.... you shouldnt be loosing your blacks or having better blacks based on the brightness. On the Z you lose it by cranking it up when it should stay the same like it does on other phones....
 

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If you're happy with it then that's what matters, but i cant agree with you on this screen. Its definitely the least best of all the 1080p displays that i have seen in my opinion.
Well, to each their own :) if Sony fix the gamma in the phone it should be good but either way I am happy, I could sell it for an S4 but too many people have it or gonna have it, its turning into an iphone like status. The screen are the least of my worry.
 

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Max brightness and it still is black, why would you even argue about this the S4 100% brightness is Xperia Z at like 50 or 60 tops. The screen is alot brighter
I've used all 3, 7 days each and went with the Z, I'm happy with it. (14 day return policy).
 
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barondebxl

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Well, to each their own :) if Sony fix the gamma in the phone it should be good but either way I am happy, I could sell it for an S4 but too many people have it or gonna have it, its turning into an iphone like status. The screen are the least of my worry.
To be fair though, the design of the XZ is absolutely gorgeous and the power button is really really really really really beautiful i my opinion. I also love the look of the UI, its clean and nice.
 

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Max brightness and it still is black, why would you even argue about this the S4 100% brightness is Xperia Z at like 50 or 60 tops. The screen is alot brighter
I've used all 3, 7 days each and went with the Z, I'm happy with it. (14 day return policy).
Then you do not own the XZ or have no clue of what youre talking about. Crank the brightness up and watch the black washing out. Here, learn something

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x_i9FHQjM8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjeystcfNOI&NR=1&feature=fvwp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhGYpo4_afI
 
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I own the xperia z, but my girlfriend has the Samsung s3, we were both in the Samsung store in the Sydney city store and we wouldn't have been in there for more than half an hour when a woman who just bought her Samsung s4 came back in the store not even 15 min later and crying about the phone, it wasn't even out of the box for 15 min and it was already broken the back cover wouldn't clip on.
the rep went in back and bought another back to replace it and it still wouldn't fit.
I felt so bad for the lady when the rep said that he had to send the phone off to Samsung so they can confirm an early life failure in order to replace her phone what a joke I felt so bad for that lady looks like Samsung know how to build a good quality phone lol
 
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OsiBasi

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Then you do not own the XZ or have no clue of what youre talking about. Crank the brightness up and watch the black washing out. Here, learn something

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x_i9FHQjM8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjeystcfNOI&NR=1&feature=fvwp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhGYpo4_afI
http://puu.sh/2R4FO.jpg I haven't ran Any tests, but my status bar & soft keys are still pitch black. And movie quality looks great, really great. So for me, I love it.

Who the hell watches a complete black screen on your phone anyway, I can do that without turning on the screen.

Edit: where does the guy on the video get purple from, I'ts baby blue. The photo when he had the red shirt looked great, on both the others he popped out due to saturation, he looked edited
 
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Dpk1

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New amoled has very accurate colors

Sent from my HTC_Flyer_P512_NA
Yes, it does but only in the movie mode (& that would make it appear "washed out" to regular Samsung users I guess ;)). I think the AMOLED screen on S4 is the best on any Samsung flagship so far. But I still prefer the XZ screen coz the S4's screen, no matter what mode can't display true whites imo. It's more like greenish/yellowish hue on the S4's white when compared to the XZ screen. Then, the daylight legibility is better on the XZ. And if you browse any website (say xda) using same browser (say chrome) on both & zoom out the page to fit all content (as far as possible), you'll notice the XZ screen to be crisper with better legibility of tiniest of letters as compared to the slight blurred out ones on the S4 screen (which I believe is due to the pentile matrix used in AMOLEDs).

I do like the better black levels & wider viewing angles on the S4 screen, but I find the better daylight legibility, better white balance & sharper browsing experience on the XZ more useful & important for my use. About the colours, I think its personal preference, some like (or are used to) the colours on the AMOLED screens & call the XZ screen "washed out", whereas some (like myself) prefer the colours on XZ (as more neutral) and refer to the S4's screen as oversaturated. I know, the movie mode on S4 almost nullifies the oversaturation, but it doesn't however improve the white balance, rectify the black clipping/crushing common on amoled screens, nor negate the blurring of small letters (due to the very pentile nature of amoled). So, its a matter of preference, really.
 

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Yes, it does but only in the movie mode (& that would make it appear "washed out" to regular Samsung users I guess ;)). I think the AMOLED screen on S4 is the best on any Samsung flagship so far. But I still prefer the XZ screen coz the S4's screen, no matter what mode can't display true whites imo. It's more like greenish/yellowish hue on the S4's white when compared to the XZ screen. Then, the daylight legibility is better on the XZ. And if you browse any website (say xda) using same browser (say chrome) on both & zoom out the page to fit all content (as far as possible), you'll notice the XZ screen to be crisper with better legibility of tiniest of letters as compared to the slight blurred out ones on the S4 screen (which I believe is due to the pentile matrix used in AMOLEDs).

I do like the better black levels & wider viewing angles on the S4 screen, but I find the better daylight legibility, better white balance & sharper browsing experience on the XZ more useful & important for my use. About the colours, I think its personal preference, some like (or are used to) the colours on the AMOLED screens & call the XZ screen "washed out", whereas some (like myself) prefer the colours on XZ (as more neutral) and refer to the S4's screen as oversaturated. I know, the movie mode on S4 almost nullifies the oversaturation, but it doesn't however improve the white balance, rectify the black clipping/crushing common on amoled screens, nor negate the blurring of small letters (due to the very pentile nature of amoled). So, its a matter of preference, really.
Then u must hate BE 2 optimizations too.
I am not a fanboy ... i have devices from 3.... sony (XS) , LG (nexus 4) , and HTC ( Flyer) i tell u my comparison
colours look best on my HTC ... sharpness is best on my nexus ..... and XS comes in middle of both.... so when i compared XS backlight illuminated LED screen to latest TFT of current devices (compared with Z and SP) ... i found out XS was better ... so that is why i decided temporarily to drift away from sony until they sort their screens out in flagship devices.... TFT is indeed a old tech ... however it has 2-3 positives but the negatives it has are unacceptable in today's devices that cost $600 and more ... just saying... others might just find it useful.
 

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Then u must hate BE 2 optimizations too.
I am not a fanboy ... i have devices from 3.... sony (XS) , LG (nexus 4) , and HTC ( Flyer) i tell u my comparison
colours look best on my HTC ... sharpness is best on my nexus ..... and XS comes in middle of both.... so when i compared XS backlight illuminated LED screen to latest TFT of current devices (compared with Z and SP) ... i found out XS was better ... so that is why i decided temporarily to drift away from sony until they sort their screens out in flagship devices.... TFT is indeed a old tech ... however it has 2-3 positives but the negatives it has are unacceptable in today's devices that cost $600 and more ... just saying... others might just find it useful.
You kind of forgot that the XZ doesn't use any old TFT, it uses IPS-TFT.
 

Dpk1

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Then u must hate BE 2 optimizations too.
I am not a fanboy ... i have devices from 3.... sony (XS) , LG (nexus 4) , and HTC ( Flyer) i tell u my comparison
colours look best on my HTC ... sharpness is best on my nexus ..... and XS comes in middle of both.... so when i compared XS backlight illuminated LED screen to latest TFT of current devices (compared with Z and SP) ... i found out XS was better ... so that is why i decided temporarily to drift away from sony until they sort their screens out in flagship devices.... TFT is indeed a old tech ... however it has 2-3 positives but the negatives it has are unacceptable in today's devices that cost $600 and more ... just saying... others might just find it useful.
As a matter of fact yes, I usually prefer to keep BE2 off all the time. And btw, I too had Xperia S in the past but I find the XZ screen better (has deeper blacks & whiter whites than XS). I have also had note2, and Xperia ZL in the recent past. I've had various Samsung, Sony(ericsson) & Nokia devices in the past and I am no fanboy either.
 
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