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Taxmaster

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Hello All,

I have a Rooted VZW GN2 running Scott's CleanROM with the Perseus kernel with TWRP as the recovery tool. I screwed up royally a few days ago and bricked my phone (dicking around with the Google Wallet mod, which failed I might add) but was able to fix it and get all my settings back the right way. Well given that it took nearly 3 days, I'd like to save a backup of everything how it is.

How do I accomplish this task? I read on xda that a lot of people use "nandroid" so I downloaded it, did the backup using the "online version" that lets you do a nandroid backup while the phone is running (not in Recovery mode) and it saved the copy to a "clockworkmod" folder. Now I know that clockwork recovery is an option besides TWRP, but since I have TWRP does it make this backup useless? Or can I do a full TWRP backup (everything selected) and will it serve the exact same purpose?

Thanks for the help everyone!!!

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Hello All,

I have a Rooted VZW GN2 running Scott's CleanROM with the Perseus kernel with TWRP as the recovery tool. I screwed up royally a few days ago and bricked my phone (dicking around with the Google Wallet mod, which failed I might add) but was able to fix it and get all my settings back the right way. Well given that it took nearly 3 days, I'd like to save a backup of everything how it is.

How do I accomplish this task? I read on xda that a lot of people use "nandroid" so I downloaded it, did the backup using the "online version" that lets you do a nandroid backup while the phone is running (not in Recovery mode) and it saved the copy to a "clockworkmod" folder. Now I know that clockwork recovery is an option besides TWRP, but since I have TWRP does it make this backup useless? Or can I do a full TWRP backup (everything selected) and will it serve the exact same purpose?

Thanks for the help everyone!!!

-Taxmaster
OK. First i would ALWAYS backup via recovery. So go in TWRP and back it up. However you could try to restore it and if it didn't work it would say MD5 mismatch.

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OK. First i would ALWAYS backup via recovery. So go in TWRP and back it up. However you could try to restore it and if it didn't work it would say MD5 mismatch.

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1. Okay so are you saying that a full TWRP backup (all options selected) = nandroid backup?

2. Does this mean that restoring the back-up TWRP file would restore everything as it is now (down to the last detail) or what could I expect of a restore?
 

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1. Okay so are you saying that a full TWRP backup (all options selected) = nandroid backup?

2. Does this mean that restoring the back-up TWRP file would restore everything as it is now (down to the last detail) or what could I expect of a restore?
Yes. Every last detail would he saved. All save games and even draft messaging... The whole lot. I believe it is correct as they both output the same back up. However i prefer CWM :p

Good luck

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Yes. Every last detail would he saved. All save games and even draft messaging... The whole lot. I believe it is correct as they both output the same back up. However i prefer CWM :p

Good luck

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Thank you! Well now I'm trying to save my files to my Dropbox but Dropbox doesn't let me upload the entire folder for the Backup. If I use RootExplorer and convert it to a zip, would that be okay? Will TWRP allow a zip for restoring or would I have to do an extraction first?
 

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Thank you! Well now I'm trying to save my files to my Dropbox but Dropbox doesn't let me upload the entire folder for the Backup. If I use RootExplorer and convert it to a zip, would that be okay? Will TWRP allow a zip for restoring or would I have to do an extraction first?
TWRP will make its own back up and save it in a selected folder. Are you talking about uploading the backup already made from TWRP

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---------- Post added at 02:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:05 PM ----------

Also look at Orange back up. Just came in the portal. It puts Nandroids on the cloud. Talk about timing :D

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I'd just like to be efficient with what memory I do have at the moment. I know that TWRP saves the file in its own folder, but it's actually a large collection of files. My plan was to zip them and upload the zip file to Dropbox and delete the "on-phone" copies. Then if worst came to worst, I would just download the zip back on there via my USB cable (I could extract if it necessary) and then I'd restore it. I just want to know if that would work and whether or not TWRP would be able to use a .ZIP file or if it would need all of the files individually.
 

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I'd just like to be efficient with what memory I do have at the moment. I know that TWRP saves the file in its own folder, but it's actually a large collection of files. My plan was to zip them and upload the zip file to Dropbox and delete the "on-phone" copies. Then if worst came to worst, I would just download the zip back on there via my USB cable (I could extract if it necessary) and then I'd restore it. I just want to know if that would work and whether or not TWRP would be able to use a .ZIP file or if it would need all of the files individually.
No. It would need to be in the folder format... Have you looked at Orange Back Up?

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No. It would need to be in the folder format... Have you looked at Orange Back Up?

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Link ==> http://www.xda-developers.com/android/orange-backup-sends-a-nandroid-to-the-cloud-with-one-click/

Okay, I just did some light reading on Orange Back Up but I'm unsure how it works. Does it replace TWRP / Clockwork? Does it require one or the other for reflashing it's nandroid backup? I really like TWRP's setup and would be reluctant to change from it (although I would do it if the advantages stack up).
 

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Link ==> http://www.xda-developers.com/android/orange-backup-sends-a-nandroid-to-the-cloud-with-one-click/

Okay, I just did some light reading on Orange Back Up but I'm unsure how it works. Does it replace TWRP / Clockwork? Does it require one or the other for reflashing it's nandroid backup? I really like TWRP's setup and would be reluctant to change from it (although I would do it if the advantages stack up).
Hmmm. If you want it simple just zip the backup and dropbox it... Then unzip when you need it

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Hmmm. If you want it simple just zip the backup and dropbox it... Then unzip when you need it

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I'm confused, isn't that what I've been saying the last several posts? What I plan on doing is zipping up my TWRP files, DropBoxing them, and if I need them I'll just hardload them onto my SD card (extracted into the folder or as a zip file depending on what TWRP needs) and then I'd restore that way.
 

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I'm confused, isn't that what I've been saying the last several posts? What I plan on doing is zipping up my TWRP files, DropBoxing them, and if I need them I'll just hardload them onto my SD card (extracted into the folder or as a zip file depending on what TWRP needs) and then I'd restore that way.
Yes. I though the Orange back up would be easier. So just do it your way. It will work

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Just make sure to not compress the zip. Not sure that TWRP will be able to restore a compressed backup (probably won't).

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I understand you're concerned about saving as much memory as you can. This is something the rest of us face as well, but quit trying to cut corners and simply do a backup the way you're supposed to and move on with your life instead of trying to invent a shortcut. The tried and true methods used within these forums have worked for years the way they're supposed to.

Either use CWM or TWRP to make your backup. I always keep one active backup and delete older ones. It's easy and almost impossible to screw up.
 

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After I soft bricked my device, I found myself making several types of backups after reading on the forums many different ways of backing up. It appears that my efforts are superfluous and that only one backup is necessary. For this reason, I was trying to figure out the best way to store the backup files. I was zipping the file not to save space as much as I was to have only one file to export to Dropbox, as Dropbox only allows files to be imported instead of entire backup folders.

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