N4 glass cracking because of heat (or temperature change)?

[DforDesign]

I saw some post on some Android blog saying someones nexus 4 cracked because of temperature change. That was ridiculous for me, cuz many other phones have gorilla glass 2 on their displays which gets hot and nothing happens. What can be different in glass between front and back of the device?

Also this guy said it cracked while charging:

Hating or true?

Tell me what you think please.

 

[CrazyPeter]

People drop them and then use this as a handy excuse to try and get a new phone.

 

[DforDesign]

Same point of view as me

 

[MarkGbe]

yeah i dont think so, sounds like a scam. it would take some serious heat to crack the glass.

 

[hicks12]

Phaha, idiot dropped it look at the cracking... cant believe some people would be cheeky to claim it was the phones fault they dropped it, **** happens but dont try and run it down like this... Glad this Nexus is doing well, so well that people have to BS issues haha! Only the speaker really is a fault but whether its software or hardware is yet to be know .

Still waiting to be able to order mine .

 

[DforDesign]

How much would it need to warm up? Like 110*C? Strange as hell.
If it was temperature change it would have to be from Quadrant to snow in Ojmiakon, right?

 

[GabrielSousa]

i think the back glass isnt gorilla glass

 

[CMNein]

I saw some post on some Android blog saying someones nexus 4 cracked because of temperature change.

An extreme enough temperature change could do that, but there would likely have to be a pre-exisiting defect of some sort. Doesn't take much, a small pit, or the glass back not being aligned properly around the camera lens. That said, I've only ever experienced that with a car windshield or two, not my N4.

 

[silver91342]

i think the back glass isnt gorilla glass

I hear people in this forum and many blog sites say it is. But didn't Phil from androidcentral confirm from LG that it is not gorilla glass. He went to where this and the optimus G were made and LG said that it is not gorilla glass on the back, its not glass.

 

[DforDesign]

That's interesting. But even if it's not gg it shouldn't break because of heat, right?


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[silver91342]

Not if its not real or close to real glass, if its not as good as dispersing heat away from the which I assume is the battery overheating from recharge. Then yes it could possibly crack. However I charge using the included cable and never felt the screen get hot. I think it cracking from heat is real possibility depending what the composition on the back really is.

 

[nikeman513]

I keep hearing BS complaints about this phone. I have had 0 problems, no yellow tint, glass doesn't crack or scratch, no software or signal issues. I seriously think people just make **** up in their head or they don't actually own a N4 that are saying these things. I was one of the first to get this phone and its the best phone in quality and performance that I have used. I've had a int. HTC one x, brother has s3, sister has iPhone 5 and I had a gnex before the one x. This phone us ridiculous for $299

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[dwd3885]

I trust the guy at Droid Life. Wasn't some random dude, it was the main guy at the site. And it's freaked me out enough that when I'm at my parent's house, I'm not putting my bare phone on their granite countertop.

However, I do think it had to have been more than a gently placing the phone on the stone countertop. It HAD to be.

 

[Mash87]

That's interesting. But even if it's not gg it shouldn't break because of heat, right?


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I think if the phone got hot enough to break the glass it would not have survived it. The most components will take serious damage from the heat also, not only the glass.
It MIGHT be that a rapid temperature change from hot to cold or vice versa could cause the glass to crack. To crack, not to shatter like the one in die video.

 

[ATnTdude]

I trust the guy at Droid Life. Wasn't some random dude, it was the main guy at the site. And it's freaked me out enough that when I'm at my parent's house, I'm not putting my bare phone on their granite countertop.

However, I do think it had to have been more than a gently placing the phone on the stone countertop. It HAD to be.

Yes, because site admins are always right about everything all the time. This whole heat shock stuff is nonsense. The phone doesn't get that hot, and room-temperature isn't that cold. At worst, Kellex had a defective phone. The glass either had a manufacturing problem or it was seated improperly. More likely, he broke it, since he also broke an Optimus G, which has been out longer than the Nexus 4 and hasn't had a big issue with this.

Look at THIS THREAD, if the glass has enough flex to creak, then it's got enough flex to handle any heat stress that doesn't involve you sticking your phone in boiling water after keeping the phone in your fridge.

As for some LG guy claiming the back isn't glass, I'm skeptical of that too. It might not be a proprietary Corning formula, but it's not plastic either, which means it's almost certainly SOME kind of glass.

 

[silver91342]

I took a look at some photos on ifixit and think it might be a round of bad batteries. They have a fault and expand when they are rapid charged and is pushing against the glass causing it to crack. It be cool if one of those guys could open the phone and check the battery.

 

[CMNein]

It MIGHT be that a rapid temperature change from hot to cold or vice versa could cause the glass to crack. To crack, not to shatter like the one in die video.

Just theorizing and repeating myself here, but there would have to be an internal defect in the glass, a microscopic chip, or the glass would have to be fitted poorly around the camera lens. The cut out for the lens is rounded, but it's still a weak spot so far as glass is concerned. Would likely need the perfect storm of events to make it happen.

 

[Falzar]

i think the back glass isnt gorilla glass

The back is gorilla glass

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[jmejiaa]

I took a look at some photos on ifixit and think it might be a round of bad batteries. They have a fault and expand when they are rapid charged and is pushing against the glass causing it to crack. It be cool if one of those guys could open the phone and check the battery.

Good theory.. Scares me a bit..

If they truly did cracks o easily I'm sure they are doing what they can to get Google to replace them..But if they refuse I guess opening it up to show the battery will be a good way to get momentum on the internet in case it really is happening.

But for all we know they dropped the phones and are just trying to get replacements.

 

[PhilipL]

Hi

Good theory.. Scares me a bit..

If they truly did cracks o easily I'm sure they are doing what they can to get Google to replace them..But if they refuse I guess opening it up to show the battery will be a good way to get momentum on the internet in case it really is happening.

But for all we know they dropped the phones and are just trying to get replacements.

There was another post where someone showed a cracked back on both the LG and the Nexus, they said it was where they were placing the phone onto a cold stone work surface causing a temperature difference. Although if the surface isn't smooth and they drop it with some force and a small raised area of stone meets the glass it would crack it and explain it.

If the phone got as hot as they claimed in that video the safety fuse in the battery should have cut it dead to avoid an explosion, but the phone appears to be working just fine.

The backs are breaking that much we know, then again so do the fronts break on all phones if treated badly. Glass can crack and break, what is hard to ever know from posts here is if the breakage is just in line with other devices and typical, or it is happening statistically more often on the Nexus 4. Of course people will complain of broken phones/glass, but no one is going to post here and complain the glass hasn't become cracked!

Regards

Phil