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Question NaviFly 7862 - Kia Rio 2013 - No Steering wheel control

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Excessed

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Sep 19, 2021
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Hello!

Hopefully someone can help me here.
I installed the NaviFly 7862 in my Rio 2013, and all works fine EXCEPT the steering wheel control.

As far as I know, I dont have a CAN decoder in my car. But whatever I try I cant get the steering wheel controls to work.
I might just be stupid as hell and missed something though.
 

Emg24538

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Hello!

Hopefully someone can help me here.
I installed the NaviFly 7862 in my Rio 2013, and all works fine EXCEPT the steering wheel control.

As far as I know, I dont have a CAN decoder in my car. But whatever I try I cant get the steering wheel controls to work.
I might just be stupid as hell and missed something though.
Did you connect the "key" and "Can Out" cables together?

Midway down the page they discuss and show picture

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ziddey

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It doesn't look like your car uses canbus for swc, and doesn't have canbus wires in the radio harness.

What does the navifly harness have connected to key1?


Looks like it should be B4. Then you can map the buttons in the app.

B4Steering Wheel Remote ControlSteering Wheel switch pushed0.5V ~ 3V


Assuming that's what you've bought, I wish they had a more detailed picture of the harness.

H96a37249d09646fd8964b89ece1c3a9eO.jpg


If B4 is unpopulated, maybe there's a stray/improper connection instead that you can borrow the lead from?

And from the listing:
H20f0dd526ea147eaa5410a05ae293c676.jpg

main harness pinout showing location of key1 if your harness is unlabeled
 

Excessed

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Sep 19, 2021
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It doesn't look like your car uses canbus for swc, and doesn't have canbus wires in the radio harness.

What does the navifly harness have connected to key1?


Looks like it should be B4. Then you can map the buttons in the app.

B4Steering Wheel Remote ControlSteering Wheel switch pushed0.5V ~ 3V


Assuming that's what you've bought, I wish they had a more detailed picture of the harness.

H96a37249d09646fd8964b89ece1c3a9eO.jpg


If B4 is unpopulated, maybe there's a stray/improper connection instead that you can borrow the lead from?

And from the listing:
H20f0dd526ea147eaa5410a05ae293c676.jpg

main harness pinout showing location of key1 if your harness is unlabeled

Thanks for the reply, it is indeed this unit. Just different front.

I've made better pictures of the harness;
PXL_20210927_185042608.jpg

PXL_20210927_185056316.jpg

PXL_20210927_185703926.jpg


That would mean that KEY1 (Black) is connected to Ground.
Ground is spliced to b5. Which, according to the pinout is empty.
 
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ziddey

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ok.. what's your b4 connected to? It looks like b4 is the brown wire, and you've got a black wire for b17 (swc ground).

looks like the navifly listing picture is very incorrect as far as main harness pinout. See this post instead: https://4pda.to/forum/index.php?showtopic=1000996&st=100#entry100193155

mmexport1606111960203.jpg


Even just comparing the color coding, it looks like navifly screwed up and reversed #7-ant cont and #8-key1.

If so, use a paper clip, thumbtack, pushpin, whatever to release the pin and swap them around. Might as well inspect the rest of the pinning..

Following that blue wire to the car end, it lines up properly with A18 remote power supply for antenna..

Hopefully no damage was done as a result
 

Excessed

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ok.. what's your b4 connected to? It looks like b4 is the brown wire, and you've got a black wire for b17 (swc ground).

looks like the navifly listing picture is very incorrect as far as main harness pinout. See this post instead: https://4pda.to/forum/index.php?showtopic=1000996&st=100#entry100193155

mmexport1606111960203.jpg


Even just comparing the color coding, it looks like navifly screwed up and reversed #7-ant cont and #8-key1.

If so, use a paper clip, thumbtack, pushpin, whatever to release the pin and swap them around. Might as well inspect the rest of the pinning..

Following that blue wire to the car end, it lines up properly with A18 remote power supply for antenna..

Hopefully no damage was done as a result
It indeed looks as of the blue and brown wire are swapped.
PXL_20210927_192501616.jpg
 

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Excessed

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I also found the reason why I couldnt figure it out.
This is the image they provided for the pins;

They casually switched KEY1 and KEY2 with Battery GND and Battery 12v...

Gonna try and switch out the two cables later (Ant and Key1)
 

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Excessed

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My Diagram for most android head unit , Key1 is #7
sometime brown or pink depend on headunit model

View attachment 5422815
Thanks a lot, only your diagram is different than the other one. Now im even more in doubt xD Now the problem is that B4 in my car is unpopulated.. So I have no clue as how to connect my steering wheel controls now.

So I'm going to try that later. Hopefully it works.

EDIT: I think I found it. Navifly, and almost all online sources, have the diagram for mp3/radio. My old head unit was a nav screen and has the steering wheel controls at b5 in stead of 4.
 
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Excessed

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I fixed it by moving B4 on the car side to B5. Steering wheel works properly now.

Thanks a lot for the help!
 

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    ok.. what's your b4 connected to? It looks like b4 is the brown wire, and you've got a black wire for b17 (swc ground).

    looks like the navifly listing picture is very incorrect as far as main harness pinout. See this post instead: https://4pda.to/forum/index.php?showtopic=1000996&st=100#entry100193155

    mmexport1606111960203.jpg


    Even just comparing the color coding, it looks like navifly screwed up and reversed #7-ant cont and #8-key1.

    If so, use a paper clip, thumbtack, pushpin, whatever to release the pin and swap them around. Might as well inspect the rest of the pinning..

    Following that blue wire to the car end, it lines up properly with A18 remote power supply for antenna..

    Hopefully no damage was done as a result
    It indeed looks as of the blue and brown wire are swapped.
    PXL_20210927_192501616.jpg