Navigon Select GPS Navigation for WP7

[emigrating]

We've discussed this in a few other threads already, but figured it was worth a separate topic, so here goes.

As some of you are aware, a certain German carrier bundles Navigon Select with their handsets. Thing is, they only include maps for Austria, Germany, Liechtenstein and Switzerland. That's obviously great for the fine people of these countries, but not so much for those of us living in other parts of the world and have imported a WP7 device from Germany.

There is a rather simple solution to this. What you will need are the iPhone maps (version 1.7) for whatever country you are interested in, these come as an .ipa file which is basically the iPhone's equivalent of .xap - they open fine in your favorite archive utility such as WinRAR. I'm not going to go into detail of where to get hold of these maps as it is borderline piracy even if you do own the paid for iPhone version, instead I will assume you have the .ipa file accessible on your desktop computer.

So, to start, make sure your WP7 device has been jailbroken using Chevron. Secondly, peform the registry hack to have your WP7 device show up in Windows Explorer. Once you've done this, install TouchXplorer onto your WP7 device as you will need it in a minute.

Now, extract the maps from your .ipa file - they are located in a subdirectory named "maps" and named country.map. Once you've extracted the ones you need, simply drag them onto your WP7 phone in Windows Explorer - this will copy the files onto the device. (note - make sure Zune is not running)

Once the files are copied, start TouchXplorer on your device and go into \My Documents\Zune\Content\0400\02\. Here you will find all the files you just copied onto the phone (note - they are now named 050.z or similar). Select the files and copy them. Now, navigate to the \Applications\Data\6F9CB464…..\Data\IsolatedStorage\map folder and paste the files. This will take a few minutes (depending on how many maps you extracted). Once finished, select each of the newly copied files and rename them to the correct filename, i.e. country.map.

That's it. You now have all of these maps available to you in Navigon.

The Navigon app is also available as an XAP from various places on the net, however I will not provide a link (not will I send you a link by PM) as I don't condone piracy. Using the iPhone maps as outlined above I do not consider piracy as I do happen to own these. Also, one could argue that since Navigon are so far not selling these for the WP7 line of devices there's no harm... although let's not discuss semantics

 

[PedrooNL]

This sounds great. I will try it.

Do you know if there is a way to make Navigator WP7 speak/look different than English or German?

 

[emigrating]

Guessing the voices could be copied over also, files do look alike. As for the UI, not without some coding, but its definitely doable.

 

[Beretta93]

Guessing the voices could be copied over also, files do look alike. As for the UI, not without some coding, but its definitely doable.

This is warez friend.

 

[Aaron McCarthy]

Any idea how we do the file changing stuff on the phone when the phone isnt HTC? As far as I know touchXplorer only works on HTC phones... those of us with Samsung Phones (myself) or LG, Dell might be S*^T out of luck here....

 

[~~Tito~~]

Please keep this in SW Development.

~~Tito~~

 

[sthEn]

I'm using it since yesterday, finally working navi for WP7. Two problems and one question though:

1. It's awefully quite, i have to turn the volume to about ~20, and then pray nobody would call me, because OS is super loud in this settings
2. VOICES, how can i change VOICES?

Q. 3D VIEW depends on map, or on application?

 

[krogoth]

I'm using it since yesterday, finally working navi for WP7. Two problems and one question though:

1. It's awefully quite, i have to turn the volume to about ~20, and then pray nobody would call me, because OS is super loud in this settings
2. VOICES, how can i change VOICES?

Q. 3D VIEW depends on map, or on application?

Polish voices are allready in the app directory, I've chcecked thoce 3 config files in isolated folder but there are no voices configuration. Language also cannot be changed, after that Navigon will get an error and download configs again.

Solution: Rename polish voices to english and german and overwrite those in app folder.

 

[Rouz.]

I wish they had maps for malaysia-singapore

 

[wolfgart]

1 . who have tried to use different maps than the german or UK ?????

Italian maps for example

2. 3D maps works fine at all ???????

3. Navigate in FULL Screen is possible too ?


i'm at work and i can't yet try to install all package...

 

[emigrating]

This is warez friend.

How is this warez? If you own the iPhone maps already getting them to run on WP7 should be covered under 17 USC 117 (Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy). Obviously dependant on where you live, but for me this would not be considered piracy in the eyes of the law. Also, I did not post any links to downloadable maps or .xap's.

Any idea how we do the file changing stuff on the phone when the phone isnt HTC? As far as I know touchXplorer only works on HTC phones... those of us with Samsung Phones (myself) or LG, Dell might be S*^T out of luck here....

You're SOL for the time being. If you have some idea about writing code you could patch up the dll to either copy maps directly from the .xap (though deployment would be crazy slow) or download from a webserver of your choice though.

This is of concern to me also as I own two Samsung Omnia 7's where I will need this once the Brodit active car holder arrives (been told it ships this Friday). If it's still not done by then, and Navigon has not come back with further information on when they plan to release in the marketplace I'll look into this further.

Please keep this in SW Development.

Funny thing is, this was initially posted in said forum, then moved by a moderator

I think, ideally the thread should be moved to the Dev subforum in the generic Windows Phone 7 forum though, as it's more of a WP7 thing than a HD2 thing. My bad for not considering this when first posting.

Q. 3D VIEW depends on map, or on application?

Depends on the software. IMO the Navigon Select software sucks, but having spoken to Navigon they say they are releasing a "full" WP7 client early 2011. Don't have any further information that that though, but we can hope they will bring it up to the same level as their iPhone app.

I wish they had maps for malaysia-singapore

Are you sure they don't? I haven't checked, but I do know they have some Australasia maps available.

1 . who have tried to use different maps than the german or UK ?????

Yes, I've got maps installed for all of Western Europe and North America (as that's what I had already purchased for the iPhone) - works fine. As a test I mapped a drive from southern Italy to the north of Norway which seemed to give okay results. Didn't even take too long to map the route.

 

[pieryx]

1 . who have tried to use different maps than the german or UK ?????

Italian maps for example

2. 3D maps works fine at all ???????

3. Navigate in FULL Screen is possible too ?


i'm at work and i can't yet try to install all package...

I don't know how to set 3d maps.
I confirm that Italy maps works with it

 

[PedrooNL]

I got it running. Brilliant. The thing I was missing.

But still it's not TomTom. But I can live with it for the moment.

I installed Benelux maps without problem. But no 3D yet. We have to wait for the 'full version' lateron I guess.

Still trying to get Dutch voices copied. Will report.


THANKS FOR THIS.

 

[PedrooNL]

Polish voices are allready in the app directory, I've chcecked thoce 3 config files in isolated folder but there are no voices configuration. Language also cannot be changed, after that Navigon will get an error and download configs again.

Solution: Rename polish voices to english and german and overwrite those in app folder.

I tried renaming Dutch to English but then the English file gets replaced again after startup.

Any solution?

 

[krogoth]

I tried renaming Dutch to English but then the English file gets replaced again after startup.

Any solution?

Open Filenames.xml from app folder on your pc (use those new file explorer to easly exchange files between pc and phone) and then change filesize of english usa and gbr to your voice size. Then copy twice your language and rename it to usa and gbr files. Then just overwrite and run app. It will not download them from network anymore.

 

[tboy2000]

Sorry but what is the reg tweak to enable usb mass storage mode? I did find a reg tweak on the net and it told me to find one entry and to change three things in it but those three things were not in the entry I found so maybe there is another tweak and I got the wrong one?

Thanks!

 

[emigrating]

Sorry but what is the reg tweak to enable usb mass storage mode? I did find a reg tweak on the net and it told me to find one entry and to change three things in it but those three things were not in the entry I found so maybe there is another tweak and I got the wrong one?

Thanks!

No, that's the right one - just go up one level (to DeviceProperties or so) when you've found the Zune entry and you'll find them.

I've attached a file with two .reg files which will sort it out for you though.

 

[jaraya13]

Hi. This sounds so great! But I think I have a problem… My devices are from AT&T USA, so I can’t find Navigon software. Is there a way to install Navigon on an AT&T USA HTC Surround?
Thanks for sharing this amazing information.

 

[Aaron McCarthy]

Originally Posted by Aaron McCarthy
Any idea how we do the file changing stuff on the phone when the phone isnt HTC? As far as I know touchXplorer only works on HTC phones... those of us with Samsung Phones (myself) or LG, Dell might be S*^T out of luck here....


You're SOL for the time being. If you have some idea about writing code you could patch up the dll to either copy maps directly from the .xap (though deployment would be crazy slow) or download from a webserver of your choice though.

This is of concern to me also as I own two Samsung Omnia 7's where I will need this once the Brodit active car holder arrives (been told it ships this Friday). If it's still not done by then, and Navigon has not come back with further information on when they plan to release in the marketplace I'll look into this further.

You're SOL for the time being. If you have some idea about writing code you could patch up the dll to either copy maps directly from the .xap (though deployment would be crazy slow) or download from a webserver of your choice though.

This is of concern to me also as I own two Samsung Omnia 7's where I will need this once the Brodit active car holder arrives (been told it ships this Friday). If it's still not done by then, and Navigon has not come back with further information on when they plan to release in the marketplace I'll look into this further.

Well... 2 things killed my excitement here... 1st being that I cant actually load maps on because I definitely do NOT have the coding skills required to make an XAP to load the maps where I need them too... Although I might look into it as I have a day off. I highly doubt its something that can be learned in a day

Second is this doesn't have 3d view!!!??? What the hell!? This was the main reason I wanted Navigon. I've had it (and tomtom) on every windows phone Ive had for the last 5 years or so. They release an app that doesn't have 3d view support? This totally boggles my mind. I suppose this just really says something about lack of BIG app support for windows phone 7 though. These have been out for a while now, and developers had access to programs to develop these for launch and nadda... I went back and looked at the videos of the program in use on youtube and yup! No 3d view. I think I was always just so excited to finally have something better then bing maps on here that I over looked I never saw it switch into 3d. Thing is, as it stands right now this is no better then bing maps! Theres no voice input support like Navigon has had in the past (which Bing has)... and at least Bing has satellite view to make up for its crappy navigation downfalls *sigh* I have no doubt this is ACTUALLY better for navigating then bing but bing is so integrated into the phone its just a no brainer to use, clicking an address from the calendar or website etc etc. I realize 3d view is just eye candy but........ It's the best part of these programs as far as Im concerned.

I loaded Navigon on my phone last night hoping there might be some way to load the maps on today. I'll leave it on for the time being but other then that.... this probably wont get much use.
Damn it!

 

[Aaron McCarthy]

Just for S*^T's and Giggles can you give the exact path that the maps get sent to so when I start trying to make an XAP file to install the maps I can code this in properly. I need to know the values of the "..."

Also would this even be the same location on a samsung phone?

Thanks
" Select the files and copy them. Now, navigate to the \Applications\Data\6F9CB464…..\Data\IsolatedStorag e\map folder and paste the files. This will take a few minutes (depending on how many maps you extracted). Once finished, select each of the newly copied files and rename them to the correct filename, i.e. country.map."