needing to root s5 verizon lollipop g900v, how

bipolargroup

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If you are on the OE1 or OG5 builds you cannot root. You are stuck.
Is this answer really supposed to help him. I have 2 questions

1. Will this build ever be able to be rooted ?

2. If so do I wait . Is it close to beta ?

For now all I know is you have to downgrade from lolipop 5.0 to kitkat 4 4.4 . I am unsure of any advantages besides aesthetics for doing so.

When answering my questions I would like to know any information possible
This answer will make a difference in what phone a guy purchases
 

landshark68

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Is this answer really supposed to help him. I have 2 questions

1. Will this build ever be able to be rooted ?

2. If so do I wait . Is it close to beta ?

For now all I know is you have to downgrade from lolipop 5.0 to kitkat 4 4.4 . I am unsure of any advantages besides aesthetics for doing so.

When answering my questions I would like to know any information possible
This answer will make a difference in what phone a guy purchases
That answer really is supposed to help him because it's the only answer there is right now. Now to answer your two questions:

1. I've always heard that you should never say never, but it is highly likely the OE1, OG5 and any later builds will never be rooted.

2. See #1

The OE1 and OG5 builds cannot be downgraded to kitkat, which is why they cannot be rooted right now. If someone is interested in rooting and running custom ROMs, Verizon phones are not the way to go right now with only a few exceptions (Nexus 6 being one of those exceptions.)

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so , how to unlock the hotspot wifi
I don't think it can be done, but you should look through the titles of the threads in the general and Q&A sections to see if any of them deal specifically with the WiFi tether on the OE1 or OG5 builds.
 

bipolargroup

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That answer really is supposed to help him because it's the only answer there is right now. Now to answer your two questions:

1. I've always heard that you should never say never, but it is highly likely the OE1, OG5 and any later builds will never be rooted.

2. See #1

The OE1 and OG5 builds cannot be downgraded to kitkat, which is why they cannot be rooted right now. If someone is interested in rooting and running custom ROMs, Verizon phones are not the way to go right now with only a few exceptions (Nexus 6 being one of those exceptions.)

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I don't think it can be done, but you should look through the titles of the threads in the general and Q&A sections to see if any of them deal specifically with the WiFi tether on the OE1 or OG5 builds.
I see . So the got makes them unlock their phones so they hard code blocked access. Anyone have the source code for this one or is it hardware locked
 

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...sigh........No, ldeveraux, this is NOT a useless thread. In fact, according to my research, this thread may just contain the key for the entire non-Google Android privileged code development community. Here is why I think so.

ahmad83it wrote on 28th August 2015, 07:06 PM:
"...so , how to unlock the hotspot wifi..."

This is AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT QUESTION. You all may be thinking that I'm the only one with this issue. NOT. Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about:

http://developer.samsung.com/forum/board/thread/view.do?boardName=GeneralB&messageId=178834

This developer had to root his phone to test and debug privileged code. That was in 2012. But nowadays:

- We know that the publicly available retail editions of Verizon Samsung devices are protected with qfuse-enhanced, signed, locked bootloaders. Any attempt to change the core system code in these devices, even by a Google certified developer (which I am), will trip a qfuse and brick the device.

- We know that the publicly available developer editions of LTE-enabled Samsung devices have unlocked, unprotected bootloaders - but they also are NOT configured for any LTE carrier, so you cannot get online via an LTE protocol (3G, 4G) with these devices. Therefore, privileged code or not, one CANNOT write code that communicates online through LTE protocols that will work. This includes code that communicates with web services, CDNs, online databases, and cloud-based services.

Now...landshark68 wrote: "...I don't think [enabling WIFI connectivity] can be done, but you should look through the titles of the threads in the general and Q&A sections to see if any of them deal specifically with the WiFi tether on the OE1 or OG5 builds..."

This is a critical point. Given my information that I outlined above, based on my research, the ONLY way that a 3rd party developer - in other words, a developer that is not an employee of Verizon or Google - can test and debug privileged code and/or code that communicates with the internet, on a genuine Samsung device, is on a developer edition of the device WITH WIFI ENABLED.

I have emailed a member of the Samsung security team, explaining this issue. Hopefully, an answer will come from it.
 

landshark68

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No, John Bonifas. What ahmad is referring to is the wifi hotspot tether hack that allows you to use your phone as a wifi hotspot without Verizon realizing it. It is also the wifi hotspot tether hack that allows users who have maintained their unlimited data package to use the wifi hotspot tether, since Verizon does not allow them to use the wifi hotspot tether. Your device has to be rooted in order to use the wifi hotspot tether hack. Has nothing to do with a developer trying to test and debug code.
 

pudnik

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No, John Bonifas.
OK...[using the forum search feature multiple times before asking question]
nope, didn't find it.

Can the developer edition of a Samsung device be WIFI enabled? Not the hotspot...just plain WIFI connectivity...?

:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
 
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ahmad83it

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yes , I meant enabling the hotspot or tethering for wifi , I searched before posting this I haven't found anything useful so anybody have solution
big thanks for anybody tried to help

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