NEVER Remove the plastic cover on your screen guard

mathen

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The one piece of plastic sticking on your sony xperia z's screen is NOT a screen guard.Since Sony is not using gorilla glass they have gone cheaper way ,by adhering some sort of plastic covering.Actually the sony logo is on the front plastic sheet,so if you remove it you also permenantly lose the logo too.I was originally thinking "how nice of sony to add an extra screen guard in the pack" infact those screen guards need to be applied before start using the phone.The plastic film prefitted once scratched ,can not removed I think,some people who tried to do that have ended up smudging thier screen.This information is from a retailer who recently had attended workshop conducted by Sony :eek:
 

BR4DOKYBrazil

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The Xperia Z has Dragontail and Gorilla Glass! The anti-shatter film is just extra protection for bigger falls, something that probably will not solve! If Sony had worried not to remove, would extra film in all boxes, because in my not come!
 

alias_neo

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My biggest gripe is the misunderstanding and misinformation.

The sheet fitted is Anti Shatter, the one in the box is a screen protector that should be fitted immediately, on top of the Anti Shatter.

It is NOT extra.

Neither of them are scratch resistant, and finger prints are pretty awful on the screen protector.

If you want scratch resistance and lower finger print visibility, you may want to either, get a better screen protector than the one it comes with (in the box) or go the unofficial route of removing the anti shatter film.

Bear in mind, all the anti shatter is going to do is hold the pieces of glass together when you smash it to pieces, it won't prevent it getting smashed.

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Ryland Johnson

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My biggest gripe is the misunderstanding and misinformation.

The sheet fitted is Anti Shatter, the one in the box is a screen protector that should be fitted immediately, on top of the Anti Shatter.

It is NOT extra.

Neither of them are scratch resistant, and finger prints are pretty awful on the screen protector.

If you want scratch resistance and lower finger print visibility, you may want to either, get a better screen protector than the one it comes with (in the box) or go the unofficial route of removing the anti shatter film.

Bear in mind, all the anti shatter is going to do is hold the pieces of glass together when you smash it to pieces, it won't prevent it getting smashed.

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Well written,

There is so much misinformation floating around about the XZ. The anti shatter membrane is just one of many. Your post is accurate.

Regards

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The one piece of plastic sticking on your sony xperia z's screen is NOT a screen guard.Since Sony is not using gorilla glass they have gone cheaper way ,by adhering some sort of plastic covering.Actually the sony logo is on the front plastic sheet,so if you remove it you also permenantly lose the logo too.I was originally thinking "how nice of sony to add an extra screen guard in the pack" infact those screen guards need to be applied before start using the phone.The plastic film prefitted once scratched ,can not removed I think,some people who tried to do that have ended up smudging thier screen.This information is from a retailer who recently had attended workshop conducted by Sony :eek:
With due respect to you may I suggest you do some research? I an not going to repeat the words written by alias_neo above. I would just add that for you to write that Sony has used a cheaper glass is incorrect. There is nothing at all cheap about Dragontrail glass. I do NOT work in the glass industry but from what I am informed by those that do both Dragontrail and Corning glass make very strong, thin, and anti scratch glasses. Both share similar properties but both have different strengths and weaknesses.

Point is Sony did not go cheap. If anything Sony went different or even up market. Both Corning and Dragontrail will shatter. The only crystal that won't is (obviously diamond) sapphire glass . Even if sapphire glass was used the cost of the phone would be well beyond what the majority of consumers could afford. A typical wrist watch crystal made from sapphire glass costs around 300.00 to 1,500.00€ depending on the shape and we know how small a wrist watch is.

The obvious challenges facing glass manufacturers being thickness. The consumer apparently wants thin phones that weigh less than a sheet of paper. This is why battery and functionality have gone out of the window. If we, the consumer, just allowed the devices to be slightly thicker and a tad heavier we could see longer lasting battery life and stronger glass.

Regards
 
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Sony uses Gorilla Glass and Dragontrail for the Xperia Z. There were rumors that they put Dragontrail on the screen and Gorilla Glass on the back, but Sony officially said that's not like it is. Due to the high demands for mobile phone glass, Sony is supplied with glass from two sources. So either your XZ has Gorilla Glass or Dragontrail. I honestly believe in the rumor, because technically and logistically it makes sense, and this picture is a strong indicator that the rumor might be true.
 
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It is odd that the only Major brand of mobile phones that does not state in its specification is Sony with regard the XZ. Other brands who use Corning or whatever state the brand of glass used.

IF Sony are using two brands of glass why not state that in the specification?

Logistically using two brands would actually double the opportunity for production run problems. I can't see Corning nor Dragontrail having supply problems? Its puzzling. :confused:
 

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Logistically using two brands would actually double the opportunity for production run problems. I can't see Corning nor Dragontrail having supply problems? Its puzzling. :confused:
Dragontrail is made in Japan from a Japanese Company. And the display panels also (either JDC or Sharp).
Since the display panel is glued / laminated to the front glass and therefore becomes a single component with the glass, it might be good in some way to have both suppliers for that component close together. This is just a guess. I'm not even sure that Sharp and JDC are actually producing in Japan.
 

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Dragontrail is made in Japan from a Japanese Company. And the display panels also (either JDC or Sharp).
Since the display panel is glued / laminated to the front glass and therefore becomes a single component with the glass, it might be good in some way to have both suppliers for that component close together. This is just a guess. I'm not even sure that Sharp and JDC are actually producing in Japan.
Also, it is cheaper.
Gorilla glass is used for back.
 

Andrewtst

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Dragontrail screen is possible but definitely not gorilla glass as all product use this screen will publish in gorilla glass official website.
 

Ryland Johnson

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Dragontrail is made in Japan from a Japanese Company. And the display panels also (either JDC or Sharp).
Since the display panel is glued / laminated to the front glass and therefore becomes a single component with the glass, it might be good in some way to have both suppliers for that component close together. This is just a guess. I'm not even sure that Sharp and JDC are actually producing in Japan.
That is also something else that puzzles the hell out of me? Why would Sony, who manufacture their own TV screens, contract out this screen to another manufacturer? Its all so odd?

I doubt, though I do not know, that neither the Sharp nor JDC branded screens are actually made IN Japan? Is anything made there now?:eek:

All food for thought and yet again we raise more questions than answers .:confused:

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Also, it is cheaper.
Gorilla glass is used for back.
Source please. Many thanks .:good:
 

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That is also something else that puzzles the hell out of me? Why would Sony, who manufacture their own TV screens, contract out this screen to another manufacturer? Its all so odd?

I doubt, though I do not know, that neither the Sharp nor JDC branded screens are actually made IN Japan? Is anything made there now?:eek:

All food for thought and yet again we raise more questions than answers .:confused:

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Source please. Many thanks .:good:
In my Sony smart tv it's gorilla,

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mathen

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The Xperia Z has Dragontail and Gorilla Glass! The anti-shatter film is just extra protection for bigger falls, something that probably will not solve! If Sony had worried not to remove, would extra film in all boxes, because in my not come!
I agree that its shatter proof film,(my intension was good - i was just discouraging removal of the same,i too was tempted to remove them expecting a better looking display,)sorry for the mistake,but i differ to agree that sony is using gorilla,as there multiple sources denying the same.

after the violent response from fellow members ,i did exhaustive reserch and it seems no on is sure :eek: some says it has both ie another glass sandwich – Dragontrail glass on the front and Gorilla Glass on the rear.

http://pocketnow.com/2013/03/13/sony-xperia-z-review

xperia-z-not-using-gorilla-glass-or-dragontrail:confused:

http://asf-mobiles.net/xperia-z-not-using-gorilla-glass-or-dragontrail-video/

any way ,i am not happy with sonys screen..:(
 

Aresmar

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My biggest gripe is the misunderstanding and misinformation.

The sheet fitted is Anti Shatter, the one in the box is a screen protector that should be fitted immediately, on top of the Anti Shatter.

It is NOT extra.

Neither of them are scratch resistant, and finger prints are pretty awful on the screen protector.

If you want scratch resistance and lower finger print visibility, you may want to either, get a better screen protector than the one it comes with (in the box) or go the unofficial route of removing the anti shatter film.

Bear in mind, all the anti shatter is going to do is hold the pieces of glass together when you smash it to pieces, it won't prevent it getting smashed.

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I am sorry but the screen protectors are not always included in packages in all countries. So it IS extra. ;)
 

alias_neo

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I am sorry but the screen protectors are not always included in packages in all countries. So it IS extra. ;)
You are correct, some countries get a dock instead, but if we get into semantics, my point is that the fitted film is not a screen protector therefore not making the "in the box" screen protector "spare", it is not secondary, additional, extra, or spare in the sense that it is equivalent to the anti shatter film, it is complimentary to, part of the whole, one might say.

:D

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Aresmar

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You are correct, some countries get a dock instead, but if we get into semantics, my point is that the fitted film is not a screen protector therefore not making the "in the box" screen protector "spare", it is not secondary, additional, extra, or spare in the sense that it is equivalent to the anti shatter film, it is complimentary to, part of the whole, one might say.

:D

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In that context you are right :silly: :D
 

neebi007

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My biggest gripe is the misunderstanding and misinformation.

The sheet fitted is Anti Shatter, the one in the box is a screen protector that should be fitted immediately, on top of the Anti Shatter.

It is NOT extra.

Neither of them are scratch resistant, and finger prints are pretty awful on the screen protector.

If you want scratch resistance and lower finger print visibility, you may want to either, get a better screen protector than the one it comes with (in the box) or go the unofficial route of removing the anti shatter film.

Bear in mind, all the anti shatter is going to do is hold the pieces of glass together when you smash it to pieces, it won't prevent it getting smashed.

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Good....

:*: Neebi :*:
 

cy888

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I'm new to Sony Xperia phones and didn't realize that they use a plastic cover over the glass. I know its to keep it shatterproof, but it kind of defeats the purpose of having a scratch proof glass front and back. Seems the plastic covering will get scratched up over time. Mine it just a few days old and I already have a small scratch on the back :(

Do any of you keep your phones in case? I really liked the XZ for its beauty and would rather use it without a case, but worry about the scratches now.
Anyone recommend a really good screen protectors, perhaps one that is really clear like glass and has oleophobic properties?
 
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