New HDR function in Photo mode

[saisallo]

HI, I've a CLT-L29C432 with FW 8.1.0.156(patch3)
I've noticed that now, but in the photo mode only, there is a powerful HDR on by default, and cannot be selected if on or off, the only way to have a "clean" shot, without HDR, is to use the PRO mode.
It works only with main sensor and not with Front camera nor with the tele-zoom camera.
This photo+HDR mode maybe is available by the last firmware update (156-p3) because I never noticed it before.
I don't know if this feature is known or not, so I decided to open a specific thread about this.
I've done some shots to demonstrate the differences
the darker shot is in pro mode ( the nearer light condition to real vision )
the lighter shot is in photo mode (+HDR hidden future) and you can see is a little more blurry than others
the in between shot is in Night mode , less blurry but also with less light and a better color handling.
there is also a shot in HDR mode from other presets page that has less light but it's sharper than photo mode + HDR
I think that this powerful feature is a little ruined in night shots during the camera status " don't move - sharpening your photo" message ( that also usually causes blurry photos also without HDR)

 

[saisallo]

Other shots indoor scene

 

[Silviu0x30]

Are you sure it's not the AI that kicks in and the second picture is not using the night mode as it was triggered as I said by the AI?

 

[kumar abhishek]

Its not some hidden hdr feature. The iso now jumps all the way to 1lakh in low light hence producing very bright pics.

 

[davidep85]

This happens only with 10mp camera (never with 40mp camera).

This is because the 10mp camera also use the black and white sensor to retrieve more informations and give you a boosted photo.

I don't like most of the time these photos.

You can't disable this!

 

[saisallo]

Are you sure it's not the AI that kicks in and the second picture is not using the night mode as it was triggered as I said by the AI?

Ai is disabled

 

[saisallo]

Its not some hidden hdr feature. The iso now jumps all the way to 1lakh in low light hence producing very bright pics.

Wrong : it works in every light condition

 

[kumar abhishek]

Wrong : it works in every light condition

Oh thats great. Can you share some daylight samples?

 

[saisallo]

This happens only with 10mp camera (never with 40mp camera).

This is because the 10mp camera also use the black and white sensor to retrieve more informations and give you a boosted photo.

I don't like most of the time these photos.

You can't disable this!

Yes : I forgot to say that it works only in 10mp (like almost everything)

Photo mode is intended for a sort of point and shot if you don't want this you can use pro mode that has no AI or HDR and you can take very nice auto pictures or twick them manually.... And 40mp as well

PRO mode should be the default mode for an advanced phographer.
What I think that huawei should only let the user be able to set by default the preferred mode ... But not eliminate this hdr future or AI at all

 

[saisallo]

Oh thats great. Can you share some daylight samples?

Yes sir: enjoy!
Hoping you can see the difference ?

Also I can say that in daylight this works much better than HDR only preset

 

[kumar abhishek]

Yes sir: enjoy!
Hoping you can see the difference ?

Also I can say that in daylight this works much better than HDR only preset

This is just awesome. Hope to get it soon on my p20 pro ??

 

[saisallo]

This is just awesome. Hope to get it soon on my p20 pro ??

Which firmware do you have and which model?

 

[kumar abhishek]

Which firmware do you have and which model?

C675 India 8.1.0.150

 

[saisallo]

I think you need 156+patch3...

 

[szunyog007]

I think you need 156+patch3...

In .156 patch 3 firmware, you loose the 4d predictive focus. The .157 firmware coming soon but don't fix the 4d predictive focus according to Huawei customer service.

 

[all the pugs]

Hehe, guys, it's there since .131.... Huawei is constantly working on it, the camera got lots of improvements since the release. Yes, they mess up the 4D focus from time to time but it's working great in the Android 9 Beta. So stay tuned!

 

[bratusm]

In .156 patch 3 firmware, you loose the 4d predictive focus. The .157 firmware coming soon but don't fix the 4d predictive focus according to Huawei customer service.

I have .156 patch 3 and I have (working) 4d predictive focus...

 

[szunyog007]

I have .156 patch 3 and I have (working) 4d predictive focus...

Wow, I have speak with other guy in this forum and for him also not working. It is very interesting because few people complaining regarding this issue on. 156 firmware. You are very lucky then. ?

 

[Magnus3D]

This is actually not HDR although the results look similar. What you are looking at here is the full effect of pixel binning in action, where four pixels are stacked together into one which in effect is boosting the dynamic range of the sensor by some clever algorithms. The end result is that highlights are rescued from being overblown and shadows are also rescued from being too dark. You end up with a evenly balanced exposure which has the same look and feel of a HDR. But this is pixel binning as it should work.

/ Magnus

 

[saisallo]

This is actually not HDR although the results look similar. What you are looking at here is the full effect of pixel binning in action, where four pixels are stacked together into one which in effect is boosting the dynamic range of the sensor by some clever algorithms. The end result is that highlights are rescued from being overblown and shadows are also rescued from being too dark. You end up with a evenly balanced exposure which has the same look and feel of a HDR. But this is pixel binning as it should work.

/ Magnus

IMHO, pixel binning is the same of hdr: multiple shots are multiple pixels or not? ?