New PX6 Android Unit ! two Cortex A72 And Four Cortex A53 Android 8.1

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mum1989

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new Rockship PX6 ( rk3399) Are here !

2 Core cortex A72 2ghz
4 Core Cortex A53 1.5ghz


PX6 On Geekbench (thanks myspac ) :
Single-Core Score
1246
Multi-Core Score
2021

Whereas a PX5 8 Ccore A53 1.5ghz On Geekbench :
Single-Core Score
612
Multi-Core Score
1672


https://ljhang.fr.aliexpress.com/store/2347264
XINPINHANG :
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/gr...l?spm=a2g0w.12010612.1000001.8.49873a5ecxje7X
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/4600039?spm=a2g0w.12010608.1000001.8.2590616dXXyVWu


https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesal...nitiative_id=SB_20190104154155&SearchText=px6

(the bad : always the same crap screen (1024x600))

( be carefull px30 are not the same, it's some crap with A35 soc)


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news :
PX6 Android 8.1 users will be able to upgrade to Android 9.0 :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79299282&postcount=127


root ? :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79320683&postcount=143


some ChessSpider tips :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79855066&postcount=255

Firmware update (thanks emre33 ):
MAX6 PX6, RK3399, HA2_rk3399_9.0_ota (20190828), Android 9 new firmware from HA/Dasaita:

https://yadi.sk/d/Qa1IdPOxk2791w


https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/9sdgyp



Mod Pie 9.0 Android PX6 RK3399 By Malaysk :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...9-1024x600-t3956762/post80056261#post80056261


The PX6 board itself :
https://www.amazon.de/M-I-C-PX6-Rockchip-Cortex-A72-xCortex-53-RK3399/dp/B07RMKD2KZ
 
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typos1

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new Rockship PX6 Are here !

2 Core cortex A72 2ghz
4 Core Cortex A53 1.5ghz

( PX5 8 Ccore A53 1.5ghz )

And Android 8.1

https://ljhang.fr.aliexpress.com/st...12010608/itm2home-1.nav-list.4.9cda35ceDdbhRf
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/LJHA...l?spm=a2g0w.12010612.8148356.2.113b4e37Voz53F

(the bad : always the same crap screen (1024x600))

Interesting, those are MTCD/E units, I ll get this thread moved to the MTCD forum.

They claim the resolution is 1240x1080 in those listings.
 
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I have asked for the resolution of these PX6 model
Like: https://ljd.en.alibaba.com/product/...T.html?spm=a2700.7803241/c.0.0.4c8e3e5fwpqDt3
And 1920x1640 is not the resolution of the display. The display is still the stupid 1024x600 resolution. The device have the same stupid 10 years old video output RCA connector, USB 2.0, ....

I will wait some hardware upgrade not only CPU... in next 10 years !!! stupid !
 
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I have asked for the resolution of these PX6 model
Like: https://ljd.en.alibaba.com/product/...T.html?spm=a2700.7803241/c.0.0.4c8e3e5fwpqDt3
And 1920x1640 is not the resolution of the display. The display is still the stupid 1024x600 resolution. The device have the same stupid 10 years old video output RCA connector, USB 2.0, ....

I will wait some hardware upgrade not only CPU... in next 10 years !!! stupid !

I think youll be waiting for some time.

1024x600 is perfectly good even if it is a weird resolution.

Some RK3188/PX3 Lollipop units have HDMI out if thats important to you.
 

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I think youll be waiting for some time.

1024x600 is perfectly good even if it is a weird resolution.

Some RK3188/PX3 Lollipop units have HDMI out if thats important to you.

You are right;
- I know I will wait for a long time, and it is a shame because these Android radio are great …
- resolution, USB2, RCA can be enought, but it is 10 years old , and we want better like our phone, tablet, TV ….etc..
(RK3188/PX3 doesn't work correctly: perf, same display, USB2.... and I don't know why they didn't keep HDMI with PX6 because the CPU have HDMI output...)

I only want to say that these products could be very very very exceptionnal if not only the CPU was upgraded…
 
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I do remember a few HDMI-out units, but most manufacturers seemed to have switched back to RCA video out. Honestly, the reason is probably becuase there is not much in-car gear with HDMI. :) I mean my headrest monitors are RCA-based, my backup camera is RCA-based and dashcams are usually USB or RCA-based.

What would you really use the HDMI out for?

I *do* wish that the audio-related internals and screens were better quality though (not really higher resolution, just higher-quality display types - no more TN displays). I also with they had anti-glare coatings. A super-reflective screen in the car is just a bad idea... And the CANBUS interfaces that generate sounds are just ridiculously bad. The turn-signal and warning chimes that my CANBUS module generates are laughable...
 

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- "A super-reflective screen in the car is just a bad idea... " => Yes , it is so so true !¨"

- I understand than RCA is usefull too, but they can provide RCA and HDMI (like old PX3), it is not complex (hdmi pin is present on PX6) .
(I need HDMI for my HUD and at this time, I must connect it by USB + displaylink vdeo outut card which it use CPU. The resolution is not very good because the display resolution of the unit is low. (when I use MHL of my tablet, the result for my HUD is "perfect").

- and I need USB high speed for my phone, harddrive….
 
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Unfortunately terrible glare is common even on new cars. Look at tesla that everyone is copying. Very rare to see cars with anti glare screens. Surprisingly more common on cheaper new cars.

I like there is innovated MTC revision after so long, but I will cowardly wait until there are some in stock in EU and first reviews by others come in :)
 
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I've had 3 or 4 different aftermarket WinCE-based touch-screen 2DIN units in my GM and they all had anti-glare screens. It seems that when manufacturers switched from resistive-based touchscreens to capacitive-based touchscreens, they also lost the anti-glare coating. Eonon actually includes an anti-glare screen protector when you buy from them (at least some of them), which is nice, but unfortunately, they leave a small gap around the edge of the screen since they are a little smaller than the screen itself. For the life of me, I can't underatand why anyone would want such a reflective screen in the car... The nicest screen in the world doesn't do a damn bit of good if you can't see it. :) The anti-glare layer also significantly reduces fingerprints.
 

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I have same grime with today's TVs even, no way around it. I'm accepting need for protector.

I'm new to all these head units, but from the looks of it, it is all the same with different face plate only - ie. touch buttons/volume rotary knob.
I will wait for px6 64gb in eu and finally give a try even if noone post review here or on 4pda :)

I mostly want it only for reversing camera though, but still Chinese android HU seems most reasonable, sad :)
 
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I think those sellers are exaggerating about the maximum core speed.
There are 2 models on the marked, the A72 2.0 GHZ is the RK3399 PRO and the regular RK3399 A72 that run on 1.8 GHZ

http://www.rock-chips.com/a/en/products/RK33_Series/2018/0130/874.html

http://www.rock-chips.com/a/en/products/RK33_Series/2016/0419/758.html

Also these chips get seriously hot, so these chips realy needs a heatsink or a fan, not a simple coverplate like now on the px5.

Why would you assume that theyre "exaggerating about the maximum core speed" ? The RK3399 is available with 2Ghz so we ll assume that these RK3399 units use the RK3399Pro. If someone buys one and the max speed turns out to be 1.8Ghz then we ll know its a plain old RK3399.

You are right;
- I know I will wait for a long time, and it is a shame because these Android radio are great …
- resolution, USB2, RCA can be enought, but it is 10 years old , and we want better like our phone, tablet, TV ….etc..
(RK3188/PX3 doesn't work correctly: perf, same display, USB2.... and I don't know why they didn't keep HDMI with PX6 because the CPU have HDMI output...)

I only want to say that these products could be very very very exceptionnal if not only the CPU was upgraded…

According to the spec sheet RK3399s support USB 3.
 

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Why would you assume that theyre "exaggerating about the maximum core speed" ? The RK3399 is available with 2Ghz so we ll assume that these RK3399 units use the RK3399Pro. If someone buys one and the max speed turns out to be 1.8Ghz then we ll know its a plain old RK3399.



According to the spec sheet RK3399s support USB 3.

How many sellers claimed that they selling a RK3188 @ 1.6 GHZ while they selling the much slower px3 RK3188-T that runs 1.4 GHZ. even the gpu is slower than the original RK3188. So it would be not the first time that sellers exaggerating.
 

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How many sellers claimed that they selling a RK3188 @ 1.6 GHZ while they selling the much slower px3 RK3188-T that runs 1.4 GHZ. even the gpu is slower than the original RK3188. So it would be not the first time that sellers exaggerating.

Not that many.

We best wait for someone to get hold of a unit before judging . . .
 

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We all know they'll put a new coreboard on the same motherboards and sell it as the next big thing.
Nothing else will change because the motherboards don't change and that's where all the other functions are.

The only change is this one will get hotter even faster since they won't dare put a fan or proper heatsink on them.
 
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We all know they'll put a new coreboard on the same motherboards and sell it as the next big thing.
Nothing else will change because the motherboards don't change and that's where all the other functions are.

The only change is this one will get hotter even faster since they won't dare put a fan or proper heatsink on them.

As I said, best to wait and see rather than speculate. Oh and the motherboards do sometimes change and some manufacturers do fit fans.
 

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    PX6 goodies!

    Hi @kumarai @Hal9k_ @marchnz

    I have some new (afaik) things that deserve to be shared with the community.

    - the first MCU file for YL units
    - the first OTA update for PX6 Android 9.0
    - the first firmware IMAGE of a newer than Android 6.0 version: PX6 Android 8.1

    The good news is that PX6 Android 8.1 users will be able to upgrade to Android 9.0 the same way as PX5 from Android 6.0 to Android 8.0
    I thought we would never see an update.img again, just update.zip OTA ones...

    Guys... do your magic!

    HERE

    ---------- Post added at 02:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:23 PM ----------

    Code:
    ./img_unpack ../My_Work/update.img ../My_Work/update_unpacked.img
    rom version: 8.1.0
    build time: 2018-12-24 20:20:43
    chip: 33333043
    checking md5sum....OK
    
    ./afptool -unpack ../My_Work/update_unpacked.img ../My_Work/update
    Check file...OK
    ------- UNPACK -------
    package-file    0x00000800      0x000002F6
    Image/MiniLoaderAll.bin 0x00001000      0x0004394E
    Image/parameter.txt     0x00045000      0x00000392
    Image/trust.img 0x00045800      0x00400000
    Image/uboot.img 0x00446000      0x00400000
    Image/misc.img  0x00846800      0x0000C000
    Image/resource.img      0x00853000      0x000D0400
    Image/kernel.img        0x00923800      0x011A6814
    Image/boot.img  0x01ACA800      0x00178BC0
    Image/recovery.img      0x01C43800      0x0180CAB4
    Image/system.img        0x03450800      0x6A05710C
    Image/vendor.img        0x6D4A8000      0x0DACD0A0
    Image/oem.img   0x7AF75800      0x04B1A094
    backupimage/backup.img  0x7FA90000      0x03380004
    update-script   0x82E10800      0x000003A5
    recover-script  0x82E11000      0x0000010A
    UnPack OK!
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    Antutu dasaita px6 4gb 64go without heatsink and fan
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    Antutu with heatsink and fan (in the sun 37°c)
    MVIMG_20190619_135057_640x480.jpg
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    So I have this version; a userdebug android 9 of 20190401... Is that interesting (see screenshot)? If not, then I'll try and upgrade it with a later firmware.. @emre33 Your firmware from below is not available. Can you please reupload? Tyvm

    New firmware

    HA2_rk3399_9.0(20190520) https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/4kr02j

    THX hotaudio

    So, in case anyone was looking for another review; here is one:

    I ordered this one: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/32997865378.html for my Opel Corsa D. It took over a month to get here; the QA-check also suggests it was created about a month after my order. So that explains it of course. Unfortunately my firmware is outdated, as there are already versions available from May.

    The only bug I noticed so far is an annoying one; after resuming from sleep the touch screen does not work anymore. I bypassed that issue by configuring the radio to turn off 30 seconds after ACC OFF. Fortunately the bootup time is really quick; I counted about 13 seconds at one time. Since then I added some apps and changed launcher, so its a bit slower now I think. But really good. With 4gig of RAM and a sufficiently quick CPU I'm not complaining about speed. With 32gig of Storage I can preload google maps and spotify songs :)

    What probably would be worth complaining about is the screen though; it is quite clear the quality of the screen is lacking. It is very reflective, the backlight isnt great, the touchscreen works flaky around the edges of the screen and the resolution (1036x600 or something) is too low for my taste. This is a 6/10 tbh; its fair and doable. Nothing more. AFAIK the screen has been the same for years, so there should be no surprises here.

    Audio quality is noticeably better than the old Opel CD30-radio. It can also go less loud; unless you're willing to go to the equalizer and set all bars to +9dB and lose the sound quality again. I'm definitely considering looking into getting a separate amplifier.

    EDIT: So I am an impatient man and upgraded my firmware with the latest HA-version. I downloaded this from the following URL: https://yadi.sk/d/umCvHqCDzHccr/RockChip PX6 Android 9/HA (Thanks @typos1 !). The bug with touchscreen and time are now fixed. No issues. Next up Im going to install a heatsink.

    EDIT: Heatsink installed, no fan lol. Temperature at idle now at ~37 degrees. I ordered this one: AAB Cooling NB Cooler 1 with some cheap thermal glue (not paste). So far the glue works; i hope it doesnt let go :). WHen running antatu benchmark, it first stayed a bit at 60 degrees and then it rose further to a maximum temperature of 74 degrees. In the final seconds it rose to 82 degrees. An antatu benchmark is 15 minutes. Of course, because there is no airflow, at some point the heatsink is also hot and saturated. But for google maps on a cartrip this should be ok. Antatu benchmark score: 82222 (see attachments for proof)
    EDIT 10/2019: So, i think there should be enough room to install 2 of the heatsink next to eachother. Might be a good idea, as even w/ just spotify+google maps it heats up to 75 degrees after ~1hr

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    Tips & Tricks

    I was missing a nice overview of tips and tricks, so here's a list of what I gathered.

    Useful apps
    Check here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71453243&postcount=5

    Access hidden menu's

    Go to Settings --> Car --> Factory Settings.
    You will be asked for password. Multiple possibilities:
    126: Enter specific factory settings about car, e.g. the app, car logo, radio, voice, canbus, keystudy (for changing purpose of keys on the headunit) and other settings (enable frontcamera, etc)
    adbon: Enable ADB, and consequently also enables developer options
    adboff: Disabled ADB again
    More passwords can be found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71455277&postcount=11

    Enable voltage in statusbar
    Per request on YouTube. Settings -> Car -> Extra Settings -> Battery Voltage Display

    Synchronize contacts to headunit
    You have to install two applications: Contacts and Android Contact Sync. Of the latter, you will have to install 4.x. The most recent one is https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...c/google-contacts-sync-4-4-4-1227136-release/

    Call contacts per voice

    First, synchronize contacts to headunit or it will not work. Then, install MtcDialer: https://github.com/scorillo/MtcDialer/releases

    Easy internet for headunit

    I downloaded Tasker on my phone. Whenever it connects via Bluetooth to the Car, it automatically enables the wifi hotspot. The car will automatically connect. Upon Bluetooth disconnect, it will disable hotspot and re-enable WiFi again.

    Update to newer version

    In general, all px6 should be compatible. Thus it doesn't matter of which vendor you install Android because the firmware is the same. However, all updates are always on your own risk.
    Updating is easypeasy; all you need is USB flashdrive or sdcard. Dont fly through the steps, you have to make a backup of existing settings before you update!
    1. Go to https://yadi.sk/d/umCvHqCDzHccr/RockChip PX6 Android 9 and choose a vendor (I used ha, other people prefer mx. I think mx has two apps side-by-side support)
    2. Download an android version. Filesize should be approximately 800mb big and called 'update.zip'.
    3. Put the update.zip on the storage device and attach it to the headunit. DO NOT YET UPDATE
    4. First, create an update of MCU settings of your specific car. Go to the 126 menu (refer to "Access hidden menu's" above) (do not update android!) and click the export button. Make sure the resulting export-file ("dmcu.cfg") ends up on your storage device. You might want to make screenshots of every page there, just to be sure.
    5. Then, finally, you may update android. Go to Settings -> System -> System updates (at the bottom). It will ask you if you want to update from android.zip. Say yes, and it will upgrade. You will lose settings and apps in the progress (yes you want to wipe). It will take about 10 minutes.
    6. Finally, after it has successfully updated, it will ask you if you want to recover ("update config") from the dmcu.cfg. Do that. If it doesnt ask you, enter the 126-menu again and click the import button. If you didnt backup dmcu.cfg, well, good luck.
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    If anyone is interested, posted Mod Pie 9.0 Android PX6 RK3399 (only for those who have 9 android installed) - https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...9-1024x600-t3956762/post80056261#post80056261
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    benchmmark please, Antutu/geekbench

    I recieve it today, I will try to do these tests and answer to all.