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[NEWS/INFO][SONY XPERIA ZU/HONAMI] Sony Xperia 2012 to 2014 Devices

Waiting for Xperia GX/Hayabusa?

  • YES, waiting for Xperia GX..

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  • NO, happy with Xperia S..

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celsior360

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It's not just the hardware which makes a device high-end, but software too. In a few weeks Google is going to announce Android 4.1 JB, but Sony hasn't got one single device on the market which follows the new Android UI design patterns, which makes the interaction with the device more fluid.

Worst, they've got an outstanding device (GX) which they won't release globally anytime soon.

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Well said!

This is the Japanese style which they won't export the best product to other countries, they do the same for cars and electronic.

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Ambroos

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What Sony is doing is just saturating the market. They're not creating that many new devices at all, but most devices are region specific at launch.

For example the Xperia Acro HD in Japan, is now going international as Acro S.
Xperia ion was AT&T only at first, now international
Xperia Neo L was China only first, now international
...

Why is Sony doing this? Because for them it is an extremely easy and safe way to introduce more choice to certain markets without having to spend more research and development. The certification processes are much faster, everything in general is easier if they just make region-specific devices global.

It's not a bad thing at all.
 

Lucasm93

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I just want to see how many of these phones will recive updates later.
For those claiming that Sony is much better than other brands at delivering updates, the higher number of deviced will be an issue.
 

DooMLoRD

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What Sony is doing is just saturating the market. They're not creating that many new devices at all, but most devices are region specific at launch.

For example the Xperia Acro HD in Japan, is now going international as Acro S.
Xperia ion was AT&T only at first, now international
Xperia Neo L was China only first, now international
...

Why is Sony doing this? Because for them it is an extremely easy and safe way to introduce more choice to certain markets without having to spend more research and development. The certification processes are much faster, everything in general is easier if they just make region-specific devices global.

It's not a bad thing at all.


well its simple... they are addressing all market segments... and providing many more options to consumers... say if they only had Xperia S as the top end device and someone doesnt like its looks/feel/etc then the consumer may go to another brand even though he/she might prefer a Sony device.. similarly not everyone can afford a 600$+ device, so they go for the one which suits their budget...

SE strategy seems to work well, atleast on the 2011 device line-up...


I just want to see how many of these phones will recive updates later.
For those claiming that Sony is much better than other brands at delivering updates, the higher number of deviced will be an issue.

SE/Sony released 12 devices in 2011 lineup, out of which 11 devices are getting the ICS update... and the only device left out (Xperia play), they tried to make ICS work on this gaming phone but due to technical issues it was not feasible... atleast SE/Sony is open and clear about why they decided not to upgrade Play to ICS...


u can ur self do the comparison with other brands...
 
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jonmorris

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Why is Sony doing this? Because for them it is an extremely easy and safe way to introduce more choice to certain markets without having to spend more research and development. The certification processes are much faster, everything in general is easier if they just make region-specific devices global

It will also come down to things like a big operator seeing the phone and saying 'can we take this?'. If that happens, Sony isn't going to sit back and say 'Sorry, we've got this down as only selling in China'.

They may have a roadmap for hardware, but when it comes to the distribution a lot of it is out of their control and subject to change. Ditto for any other manufacturer.

I've seen Samsung handsets introduced to me in the UK in January (back when Samsung was a lot smaller in the UK) and within a few months have been told that they've been axed, or won't be coming to the UK.

The Xperia acro S, by the way, isn't coming to the UK.
 

quaver84

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Been going back the start of the thread and the road map (shame it doesn't include info on the markets). So, the GX the hayabusa? We've heard about the next couple. I guess our attention now turns to Mint??

(Another thing as an aside, I'm now out of contract on my x10. Stick or twist!? Go for the S? Wait till September (mint) or - deep breathe - hold out till March to see what CES13 throws up?)

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zymo

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Been going back the start of the thread and the road map (shame it doesn't include info on the markets). So, the GX the hayabusa? We've heard about the next couple. I guess our attention now turns to Mint??

Yes GX is going to be Hayabusa, but it seems like it will have some additional features. Except u13x nobody in this thread knows whether this will be a sw or hw update.





(Another thing as an aside, I'm now out of contract on my x10. Stick or twist!? Go for the S? Wait till September (mint) or - deep breathe - hold out till March to see what CES13 throws up?)

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Mint is a LTE device, so it won't be released worldwide.
 
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karun11

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Barely. The only downside for Mint is no removable batteries, though it does come with 1850. Hayabusa would be the same with the GX, with removable batteries.

Any change of plans, as some rumoured suggest or Sony plans to go ahead with exactly the same chip and plonk it on the Mint? The price difference is for the aluminum casing and LTE I presume?

Btw..did you manage to find out whether it would be the XPERIA or SONY logo that will illuminate in the International version? or neither?
 

unknown13x

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I know i want one, First water proof PlayStation but us in the UK are not getting it so will have to get 1 shipped. Only thing i am concerned about is that its the Xperia S in a different shell. If the Xperia S gets this hot. How will this cope with more closed in casing. :confused:

That's why it's waterproof, so when it heats up, just throw it into the water to cool down :D


Any change of plans, as some rumoured suggest or Sony plans to go ahead with exactly the same chip and plonk it on the Mint? The price difference is for the aluminum casing and LTE I presume?

Btw..did you manage to find out whether it would be the XPERIA or SONY logo that will illuminate in the International version? or neither?

Not sure about the chip, I highly doubt they would do that since they have much more time until announcement (from what I heard).

The international will have XPERIA logo on the bottom. Whether it illuminates or not I'm not sure. Haven't had a chance to ask about this yet. Busy with 2013 devices...JK :p
 
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karun11

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That's why it's waterproof, so when it heats up, just throw it into the water to cool down :D




Not sure about the chip, I highly doubt they would do that since they have much more time until announcement (from what I heard).

The international will have XPERIA logo on the bottom. Whether it illuminates or not I'm not sure. Haven't had a chance to ask about this yet. Busy with 2013 devices...JK :p

Trust you to throw in tidbits to spice things up! :D So there is a good chance Sony will change the chip? Good! I still hope they've retained the illumination bit. A little theatrics didn't do anyone any harm :)

haha 2013! Wish we could see em all :D Well. if you just happen to know when we'll see the 2.0-2.5 gig krait on a device, let us know :p

Thanks!
 
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    Yes I know that, I just don't want it to be outdated too soon

    Sent from my XPERIA S using XDA app



    The smartphone cycle has gotten pretty simple and formulaic if you follow it closely.

    Jan-April - Interim and half-baked products and copycats. Phonemakers who can't compete on mindshare and marketing take advantage of the lull to try and stand out by releasing the newest chips and not have to compete with bigger competitors. Snapdragon 600, Tegra 3. S4 Pro. 1080p. 720p. Tegra 2. They may look enticing if you just focus on that one spec, but the overall package is usually lacking, being more rushed, uneven, poorly optimized, buggy, and will get superseded by newer, more refined versions of their chips later in the year and better components and screens overall. Being first has its downsides. Also, just a general release period for smaller phonemakers to release phones with outdated hardware to take advantage of the lull and quietness.

    E.g. Motorola Atrix, Optimus G2x, Optimus 4x, Optimus G Pro, Xperia s, Xperia Z, Oppo Find 5, Lumia 920, Lumia 900

    May-Aug - The big boys other than Apple start releasing their flagship products. Usually Samsung and HTC. It takes a couple months for availability to reach a global scale.

    E.g. Galaxy S 1-4. HTC Sensation. HTC One X. HTC One.

    Sep-Nov - Everybody starts pouring out their flagship phones. Apple announces and subsequently releases their newest iPhone. Refined tech like the Sanpdragon 800 (what the 600 should be), chips with LTE radios, higher resolution screens that don't suck, and the quick disfavor of earlier Tegra chips, all come to a head. LG screws you over by implying their earlier phones were prototypes or copycats and pulls out their real flagship phone of the year. Sony releases yet another iteration in their six-month flagship phone cycle that is marginally better than what was available earlier. HTC and Samsung release updated versions of their earlier flagships with more refined hardware. The Galaxy Note gets released, and HTC's barely phablet. Motorola releases yet another boring kevlar backed Razr using pedestrian specs with no innovation, splitting it into three products with the M, regular, and Maxxx. Nokia, like LG, also makes fun of you for buying their half-baked interim product earlier in the year and finally releases their true flagship, aligning with the late-year release of Windows Phone that FINALLY supports somewhat modern hardware. The latest Nexus device comes along. It's the holidays when retailers get out of the black and companies get their largest revenue and profit. If you are gonna release something big, can pay for the marketing, and want it to sell quickly and not rot on the (figurative) store shelves while its tech becomes outdated, this is the time. Fewer people buy stuff earlier in the year, so products with short life cycles and high R&D costs should stick to this area, if you are not a perennial favorite like the iPhone or Galaxy S.

    E.g. EVERYTHING ELSE.


    Roundabout answer to question. If you want to stick to a yearly phone cycle, stick with the typical Fall release that's a no-brainer and in line with everything else, from video games to TV shows to Elmo toys. The phone you buy should be good for a year at least, and you have the widest availability of phones to choose, the most refined version of the good stuff, and the manufacturing process of said good stuff has been ironed out and revved up so you won't be geting buggy 1.0 hardware components and they are churning out at maximum capacity with the widest release.
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    Went hands on with the ZU tonight. Very high quality device. Felt very sturdy and felt better in the hand than the Xperia z due to the beveled edges. It is a big device. But super thin. Couldn't believe how thin and light it was. Made the XZ feel chucky.

    OS ran super super smooth. The pen input was very cool with a pencil. Felt weird using a pencil on a smartphone screen but it recognized things great and very fluid while writing/drawing.

    The screen was gorgeous. Absolutely amazing. And for those of you into viewing angles it looked great from all angles. The flaps felt better and more sturdy that the XZ. The bezel size on top and bottom serves a good purpose as when using the XZU in landscape you can comfortably hold it with one hand without touching the LCD.

    Even though the XZU is giant it didn't feel that way because of how thin and light this thing is. I thought the Tablet Z was thin.....the XZU beats it and feels much better. Loved the metal edges of the device. And it looks great in purple.

    Didn't test the camera other than taking a picture to mess with in the drawing app that was on it.

    I can see people getting this device to take the place of a phone and 7" tablet. Fills both those needs IMHO.

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    I went to a recently opened (Yersterday) Sony "Pool Up" store (Meaning they had a pool with guys and gals playing with devices under water) in Madrid and I had the chance to try the Xperia Z Ultra.

    It's ****ing amazing. They had it under tight security, saying that it was only a prototype, and they let no one to touch it.

    After a little chat with the manager, and after convincing him I was a HUGE Sony fan, (I carried a Xperia S, a Xperia Z and a Sony Walkman Z with me), he let me play with it for a while, leaving me =O I was jumping in excitement when he let me touch it. He told me "you know more about Sony devices than the people working over here" (Thank you Xperia Blog and XDA)

    My devices:

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    The Store:

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    My Xperia Z compared to the Xperia Z Ultra on display:

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    Me and the Z Ultra:

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    I was so blown away that I just remember seeing the About Phone stuff. Kernel 3.4 and Android 4.2.2. Everything else was just jaw dropping.
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    XPERIA 2012 RANGE - for pictures of 2012 Xperia range Click Here
    Xperia S
    Xperia P
    Xperia U
    Xperia Sola
    Xperia Tipo
    Xperia ION
    Xperia Go
    Xperia Acro S
    Xperia Neo L
    Xperia Miro
    Xperia T
    Xperia TX
    Xperia V/AX
    Xperia J

    XPERIA 2013 RANGE - for pictures of 2013 Xperia range Click Here
    Xperia E
    Xperia E Duo
    Xperia Z
    Xperia ZL
    Xperia SP
    Xperia L

    Refer post#2 for complete 2012 range.
    Refer post#4 for 2013 range.
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    Xperia Range Gallery


    XPERIA 2012 RANGE


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    Xperia Go
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    Xperia SL
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    Xperia Tipo/TipoDual
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    Xperia TX
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    Xperia J
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    Xperia V
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