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[NEWS/INFO][SONY XPERIA ZU/HONAMI] Sony Xperia 2012 to 2014 Devices

Waiting for Xperia GX/Hayabusa?

  • YES, waiting for Xperia GX..

    Votes: 281 53.4%
  • NO, happy with Xperia S..

    Votes: 245 46.6%

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vivftp

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Lotus was already announced. That was the Xperia Go. No one's quite sure what's on the 20th. But I'm more than positive that there won't be anything announced then, just displaying the Miro and Tipo is my guess.

I'm already looking at 2013 devices btw :D

Randomuser over at the esato forums seems convinced that there will at least be a 5 inch, 1080p phone for 2013.

Btw, feel free to drop any hints like OLED, xenon flash, vitaphone... anything you would like unknown :)
 

hei133

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Sigh, 5" OLED screen/cybershot sounds good for regaining some hype/reputation as a flagship but I would really rather welcome some concrete announcement of LT29i release soon. The last oled screen I used was really almost non-readable under bright sun, so my preference would still be a nice sharp IPS non-pentile LCD.

Had enjoyed Xperia S, Sony did a good job of on XS software and battery life was actually quite okay so non-removable battery wasn't a big deal, but I really missed the sd card support. GX seemed just the right balance as per specs for a 2012 phone.
Here's hoping that the bad news is not cancellation of LT29i, or a super delayed release like the Xperia ION.... :p
 

vivftp

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Sigh, 5" OLED screen/cybershot sounds good for regaining some hype/reputation as a flagship but I would really rather welcome some concrete announcement of LT29i release soon. The last oled screen I used was really almost non-readable under bright sun, so my preference would still be a nice sharp IPS non-pentile LCD.

Had enjoyed Xperia S, Sony did a good job of on XS software and battery life was actually quite okay so non-removable battery wasn't a big deal, but I really missed the sd card support. GX seemed just the right balance as per specs for a 2012 phone.
Here's hoping that the bad news is not cancellation of LT29i, or a super delayed release like the Xperia ION.... :p

Sony recently announced a 9.9 inch OLED with a white subpixel similar to white magic display tech, so if they were to expand that to cell phone displays it should help a lot for daytime viewing and more realistic colours. Hopefully we can get OLED where white is actually white.
 

Ambroos

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Lotus was already announced. That was the Xperia Go. No one's quite sure what's on the 20th. But I'm more than positive that there won't be anything announced then, just displaying the Miro and Tipo is my guess.

I'm already looking at 2013 devices btw :D

I really need to start applying for a Sony Mobile internship :p Do they still do development (web/Android) in Sweden (or any other part of Europe)?
 

draugaz

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Sony recently announced a 9.9 inch OLED with a white subpixel similar to white magic display tech, so if they were to expand that to cell phone displays it should help a lot for daytime viewing and more realistic colours. Hopefully we can get OLED where white is actually white.

This is actually something very different from what current *OLED displays are and I am afraid not terribly energy efficient, since white OLEDs are covered with color filters.

So while you will get better contrast than standard LCDs, said filters will block considerable amount of light.
Now add the inevitable inefficiences due to the separate switching of each and every small pixel and it suddenly does not look pretty in context of battery powered mobile devices.
 

vivftp

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This is actually something very different from what current *OLED displays are and I am afraid not terribly energy efficient, since white OLEDs are covered with color filters.

So while you will get better contrast than standard LCDs, said filters will block considerable amount of light.
Now add the inevitable inefficiences due to the separate switching of each and every small pixel and it suddenly does not look pretty in context of battery powered mobile devices.

Well I suppose we'll have to wait for official specs to say just how power hungry it will be compared to other techs on the market.
 

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jonmorris

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One of my 'claims to fame' was being paid by Samsung to look at their road map for the year ahead - which is done in April the year before (so April 2010 for the 2011 roadmap). It gives a clue as to how far ahead they work on designs.

As such, I'd say that if Sony is the same, you won't see any radical changes design wise until 2013 - and that's assuming when Sony took full control they decided to take the design team (based in Sweden) in a totally different direction. If they didn't, expect the same design theme to carry through for a while longer.

BTW, it was me and two other journos (including one from Stuff magazine) that saw the design of what became the Galaxy Nexus S. Except it was originally designed to be a normal Samsung phone. Sadly I didn't do any consultancy for them last year or this year - so didn't get to see the Galaxy S III. I'm pretty sure they'd have been 'almost there' with it last April.

Lots of things can change. Of all the handsets we saw and gave advice on, probably only 20-25% of them ever went into production.
 

xperiax10.awesome

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Just to inform you guys that nobody has any information for the 2013 line up, only the few core designers from Sony must be knowing and I dont think they belong here..

Just hold ur horses till 20th June to see wat Sony has in store except Tipo, Miro..

Expecting atleast GX international version..

from xperia S
 

hei133

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This is actually something very different from what current *OLED displays are and I am afraid not terribly energy efficient, since white OLEDs are covered with color filters.

So while you will get better contrast than standard LCDs, said filters will block considerable amount of light.
Now add the inevitable inefficiences due to the separate switching of each and every small pixel and it suddenly does not look pretty in context of battery powered mobile devices.

Probably for a oled screen based device, probably Sony will have to spend time on skinning of OS and apps in order to switch to a dark based scheme, just to save battery life. :)
 

unknown13x

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Can you give us some hints about the 2013? :D
For design, are they look better than the current devices? :>
And the Screen siz pls? :p

Edit: is there any chance that we will see a Device with Vita OS by next year? :))
Sorry for being too greedy XD

Like xperia.awesome said, no one knows the line-up. I only seen renders of them from a powerpoint, and from my experience these past years, only a few of them will make it to production, so there's definitely no point for me to share anything right now.

Also, at this stage, only designers would know products of 2014. Each devices takes almost 2 years of development. 2013 devices' design should be done by now, but the matter of picking hardware and development that takes much longer.
 
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Stedus

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Like xperia.awesome said, no one knows the line-up. I only seen renders of them from a powerpoint, and from my experience these past years, only a few of them will make it to production, so there's definitely no point for me to share anything right now.

Also, at this stage, only designers would know products of 2014. Each devices takes almost 2 years of development. 2013 devices' design should be done by now, but the matter of picking hardware and development that takes much longer.

Ty for your reply ;)
I guess its too early to talk about the 2013 devices now :<
So all i hope now is the release date of the Hayabusa or Mint :eek:
 

supercoolman

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Like xperia.awesome said, no one knows the line-up. I only seen renders of them from a powerpoint, and from my experience these past years, only a few of them will make it to production, so there's definitely no point for me to share anything right now.

Also, at this stage, only designers would know products of 2014. Each devices takes almost 2 years of development. 2013 devices' design should be done by now, but the matter of picking hardware and development that takes much longer.

from the line up of 2012 so far. 2010/2011's power point had tones of devices?
 

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    Yes I know that, I just don't want it to be outdated too soon

    Sent from my XPERIA S using XDA app



    The smartphone cycle has gotten pretty simple and formulaic if you follow it closely.

    Jan-April - Interim and half-baked products and copycats. Phonemakers who can't compete on mindshare and marketing take advantage of the lull to try and stand out by releasing the newest chips and not have to compete with bigger competitors. Snapdragon 600, Tegra 3. S4 Pro. 1080p. 720p. Tegra 2. They may look enticing if you just focus on that one spec, but the overall package is usually lacking, being more rushed, uneven, poorly optimized, buggy, and will get superseded by newer, more refined versions of their chips later in the year and better components and screens overall. Being first has its downsides. Also, just a general release period for smaller phonemakers to release phones with outdated hardware to take advantage of the lull and quietness.

    E.g. Motorola Atrix, Optimus G2x, Optimus 4x, Optimus G Pro, Xperia s, Xperia Z, Oppo Find 5, Lumia 920, Lumia 900

    May-Aug - The big boys other than Apple start releasing their flagship products. Usually Samsung and HTC. It takes a couple months for availability to reach a global scale.

    E.g. Galaxy S 1-4. HTC Sensation. HTC One X. HTC One.

    Sep-Nov - Everybody starts pouring out their flagship phones. Apple announces and subsequently releases their newest iPhone. Refined tech like the Sanpdragon 800 (what the 600 should be), chips with LTE radios, higher resolution screens that don't suck, and the quick disfavor of earlier Tegra chips, all come to a head. LG screws you over by implying their earlier phones were prototypes or copycats and pulls out their real flagship phone of the year. Sony releases yet another iteration in their six-month flagship phone cycle that is marginally better than what was available earlier. HTC and Samsung release updated versions of their earlier flagships with more refined hardware. The Galaxy Note gets released, and HTC's barely phablet. Motorola releases yet another boring kevlar backed Razr using pedestrian specs with no innovation, splitting it into three products with the M, regular, and Maxxx. Nokia, like LG, also makes fun of you for buying their half-baked interim product earlier in the year and finally releases their true flagship, aligning with the late-year release of Windows Phone that FINALLY supports somewhat modern hardware. The latest Nexus device comes along. It's the holidays when retailers get out of the black and companies get their largest revenue and profit. If you are gonna release something big, can pay for the marketing, and want it to sell quickly and not rot on the (figurative) store shelves while its tech becomes outdated, this is the time. Fewer people buy stuff earlier in the year, so products with short life cycles and high R&D costs should stick to this area, if you are not a perennial favorite like the iPhone or Galaxy S.

    E.g. EVERYTHING ELSE.


    Roundabout answer to question. If you want to stick to a yearly phone cycle, stick with the typical Fall release that's a no-brainer and in line with everything else, from video games to TV shows to Elmo toys. The phone you buy should be good for a year at least, and you have the widest availability of phones to choose, the most refined version of the good stuff, and the manufacturing process of said good stuff has been ironed out and revved up so you won't be geting buggy 1.0 hardware components and they are churning out at maximum capacity with the widest release.
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    Went hands on with the ZU tonight. Very high quality device. Felt very sturdy and felt better in the hand than the Xperia z due to the beveled edges. It is a big device. But super thin. Couldn't believe how thin and light it was. Made the XZ feel chucky.

    OS ran super super smooth. The pen input was very cool with a pencil. Felt weird using a pencil on a smartphone screen but it recognized things great and very fluid while writing/drawing.

    The screen was gorgeous. Absolutely amazing. And for those of you into viewing angles it looked great from all angles. The flaps felt better and more sturdy that the XZ. The bezel size on top and bottom serves a good purpose as when using the XZU in landscape you can comfortably hold it with one hand without touching the LCD.

    Even though the XZU is giant it didn't feel that way because of how thin and light this thing is. I thought the Tablet Z was thin.....the XZU beats it and feels much better. Loved the metal edges of the device. And it looks great in purple.

    Didn't test the camera other than taking a picture to mess with in the drawing app that was on it.

    I can see people getting this device to take the place of a phone and 7" tablet. Fills both those needs IMHO.

    Sent from my Sony Xperia™ TL
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    I went to a recently opened (Yersterday) Sony "Pool Up" store (Meaning they had a pool with guys and gals playing with devices under water) in Madrid and I had the chance to try the Xperia Z Ultra.

    It's ****ing amazing. They had it under tight security, saying that it was only a prototype, and they let no one to touch it.

    After a little chat with the manager, and after convincing him I was a HUGE Sony fan, (I carried a Xperia S, a Xperia Z and a Sony Walkman Z with me), he let me play with it for a while, leaving me =O I was jumping in excitement when he let me touch it. He told me "you know more about Sony devices than the people working over here" (Thank you Xperia Blog and XDA)

    My devices:

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    The Store:

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    My Xperia Z compared to the Xperia Z Ultra on display:

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    Me and the Z Ultra:

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    I was so blown away that I just remember seeing the About Phone stuff. Kernel 3.4 and Android 4.2.2. Everything else was just jaw dropping.
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    XPERIA 2012 RANGE - for pictures of 2012 Xperia range Click Here
    Xperia S
    Xperia P
    Xperia U
    Xperia Sola
    Xperia Tipo
    Xperia ION
    Xperia Go
    Xperia Acro S
    Xperia Neo L
    Xperia Miro
    Xperia T
    Xperia TX
    Xperia V/AX
    Xperia J

    XPERIA 2013 RANGE - for pictures of 2013 Xperia range Click Here
    Xperia E
    Xperia E Duo
    Xperia Z
    Xperia ZL
    Xperia SP
    Xperia L

    Refer post#2 for complete 2012 range.
    Refer post#4 for 2013 range.
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    Xperia Range Gallery


    XPERIA 2012 RANGE


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    Xperia U
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    Xperia Sola
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    Xperia Neo L
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    Xperia Tipo/TipoDual
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    Xperia J
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    Xperia V
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