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Nexus One Still Good to this day?
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Sure is. Just don't be surprised if the power button starts failing or simply dies completely. It has so for me, but it's not really a big issue since I have a widget that locks my screen and I wake the screen with the trackball.
The N1 is still a nice phone and gets a lot of love from the devs. On a budget tight like yours I'd still recommend on buying one.
But it feels like things are shifting slowly. The community is still one of the best among all the android phones out there. But it's getting smaller and there is no Google support anymore. The day where hardware limitations got obvious is far back in the past.
We have some great devs that solved the low nand space and it looks like we're getting hardware acceleration for ics in a bit but nonetheless the N1 is dying. But it's dying slowly.
Mine has a broken powerbutton, broken fm radio, broken bluetooth, broken camera and I'm still loving it
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But it feels like things are shifting slowly. The community is still one of the best among all the android phones out there. But it's getting smaller and there is no Google support anymore. The day where hardware limitations got obvious is far back in the past.
We have some great devs that solved the low nand space and it looks like we're getting hardware acceleration for ics in a bit but nonetheless the N1 is dying. But it's dying slowly.
Mine has a broken powerbutton, broken fm radio, broken bluetooth, broken camera and I'm still loving it
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So for the N1 the best way to go would be with a custom ROM to really use it, and Cyanogemod (if that is how you spell it) is the best ROM or whatever you call it, to install on the N1 right? I also read in the Cyanogemod is that it includes a thing where you can turn on the phone with the trackball therefore making the use of the power button obsolete correct?The N1 is still a nice phone and gets a lot of love from the devs. On a budget tight like yours I'd still recommend on buying one.
But it feels like things are shifting slowly. The community is still one of the best among all the android phones out there. But it's getting smaller and there is no Google support anymore. The day where hardware limitations got obvious is far back in the past.
We have some great devs that solved the low nand space and it looks like we're getting hardware acceleration for ics in a bit but nonetheless the N1 is dying. But it's dying slowly.
Mine has a broken powerbutton, broken fm radio, broken bluetooth, broken camera and I'm still loving it
There are many good roms out there. Cyanogen is allways a good bet. Maybe a gingerbread based cyanogen (CM7, CM9 is ICS based but it's just alpha yet) is a good way to start. A lot of features, only a few minor bugs, very stable and quite fast.
Nowadays you have no big problems without a power button:
- 4ext touch -> touch based recovery
- blackrose -> tb based bootloader
- tb wake -> a lot of roms
- screen lock widget -> lock screen with a widget or by long pressing search soft button
The only thing that is somewhat tricky is turning the device on. You need to connect it to a pc and quickly remove the battery and put it back in.
So do all the stuff mentioned above comes in CM?
as for , touch based recovery and tb based bootloader, what are they exactly.
I read on the net about plugging into a PC and removing the battery and putting it back in to turn it on, well not really that bad since I would only remove the SIM Card or SD Card when I am at home and at my PC
Thanks
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Definetly!
Take into account also that ICS is coming very soon... Some good ROMs are already around but some important features are missing (hardware acceleration) and some debugging is needed.
So with that budget a good used nexus one is perfect solution. IMHO
Quick list of pros and cons
I've owned the N1 pretty much since it came out. Here's my quick list of pros and cons:
Pros:
Cons:
I haven't had issues with the power button, I find HTC's build quality on this one fantastic and reliable. I dropped mine so many times, it's like a rock!
I think that's the big stuff. For your consideration.
I've owned the N1 pretty much since it came out. Here's my quick list of pros and cons:
Pros:
- Excellent value for price, even when it came out and still today. Eepending how much you're gonna pay for it. I'd get a brand new N1 today for anywhere between 200-270 USD, and probably still be pleased with the value, personally (not sure, because I haven't looked at phone prices recently so my price is not a good anchor to judge by).
- Most dev friendly phone in history, only competition is like the HD2 or something. Today you'll find more dev friendly phones, like the new nexii, but you'll still get awesome ROMs for the N1, and CM is still officially supported up until cm9. Since it's a google dev phone, flashing is incredibly easy and bricking is virtually impossible. I haven't been on stock since day 2, and it's fun to switch around roms every once in a while. Finding guides and help is easy.
- Honestly a beautiful piece of hardware. It also feels great (only the iPhone 4/S competes with this, imo).
- Flash (as in a camera flash). Most phones in this category lack this, and even some more modern ones lack this. I use it as a torch more than for the camera. Don't underestimate having a strong source light on your phone.
Cons:
- Stupid synaptics multitouch panel only does pinch to zoom, but not real multitouch (half the games are unplayable and you'll get used to not touching the side of the screen with your palm). I don't mind because I don't play and my hands are big enough and the phone is small enough for the palm issue to not be an issue.
- Onboard storage is terribly low (~196 MB for user data). Even I get low memory warnings, however, moving the right apps to the sd (sold separately) frees a good amount of space (I can squeeze a good 50 MB extra or so). Not for app hoggers. Don't move the wrong apps or else widgets, sync and stuff will stop working... A half-good solution, you'll still be worried about exhausting your storage.
- Not a big issue for me at all, but the screen could be a little brighter in sunlight. I never really care for this too much though (if you're not always outdoors).
- Camera sucks. Bad. I hate taking pictures because they never come out good. Never. I only use the camera to snap things I need to remember later.
I haven't had issues with the power button, I find HTC's build quality on this one fantastic and reliable. I dropped mine so many times, it's like a rock!
I think that's the big stuff. For your consideration.
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- 4ext touch -> touch based recovery [Somewhere between bios and a minimalistic os. You can flash roms, do backups, format sd, partition sd, reset the device, ... .]
- blackrose -> tb based bootloader [Similar to a bios. You can connect the phone to your pc to flash stuff (fastboot) and boot to recovery]
-> Both are not flashed with a rom. Some roms require a "hacked" bootloader/blackrose (e.g. new ics roms). Flashing bootloader and/or recovery is not rocket science but it's riskier than flashing a rom. You can totally hardbrick your device if you have really bad luck (phone falling from the table during flash, pc getting stuck, ...).
- tb wake -> a lot of roms
-> CM can do that. A lot of other roms can as well (some problems with sense roms)
- screen lock widget -> lock screen with a widget or by long pressing search soft button
-> Works on every rom if you have root access
I. Agree with everything you stated excepting the camera. At the time it came out only the incredible could compete with it. Sure its not nearly as good as manyof the newer phones, but I'd still put it in the middling range compared to new phones. I've been quite pleased with it.
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I've actually recently switched from a 3gs to the Nexus one, and I'm actually rather glad I switched, out of your con list I've found that the multitouch issue hits me hardest, but I just kind of gave up on being bothered by it.
I don't tend to take pictures, so I guess that's why it doesn't really affect me as greatly, and as for the app space, I'm running a custom rom with A2SD and it allows me to have a 1gb partition on my SD card that acts as phone storage for apps. Rather than move them to SD I just let them install to my phone and it still says I have around 600mb left so I'm pretty happy with that. The phone is still great for daily usage.
Although I only went nexus one because I wanted to wait till the next wave of phones in march, I'm really happy that I did make the switch off iOS, but maybe that's just me.
Okay, so I'm actually Swyping this from my AT&T N1 right now. I'll have to echo most of what everyone's said so far. Yes, the dual-touch screen is wonky often. And yes, the power switch is prone to failure (thankfully, mine hasn't completely died, but I suspect some nasty debouncing problems). The pathetically miniscule (by today's standards) internal memory used to be a problem for me, but that was before I discovered A2SD/IA2SD/S2E. You pair a nice 32GB Class 4+ microSD card with the N1 and there is virtually no limit to the amount of apps you can install simultaneously. The official Android A2SD blows as it doesn't move the Dalvik cache, which is nearly the same size as the APKs themselves! Oh, and if you do end up getting one, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, use "deathray mode" on the Torch app! It'll end up burning off the phosphor on the flash LED and turning your nice white light into a deep blue. Trust me on this one =P I'm getting a replacement from eBay soonish for that. Let's see, what else... The GSM antenna placement on the bottom of the device is unfortunate, especially if you're using it in a place with marginal signal strength. However, that tends to be par for the course for mobile design these days, so I wouldn't hold that too much against them. Plus, if you REALLY need to, you can just install a custom ROM (i.e. CM7) that allows for 180° screen rotation and hold the phone upside-down for better reception. LOL! Hmm, almost out of experiences to share. I guess if you're rather rough to your device and don't use a protector on it, the soft rubberized coating on the case will eventually wear off and leave the device looking like a blotchy mess. I happen to think it adds character, but I'm funny like that The screen glass is a BEAST! Not one scratch on it, even when it's been in my pocket with car keys and sand from the shores of California. Screen protectors be damned! The trackball is a nice touch. It makes editing text so much easier than even some of the newer phones I've played with at the AT&T and Verizon stores. Speakerphone quality is decent. Earpiece...not so much, IMO. That's why I insist on a quality Bluetooth earpiece for everything. It's purely practical, not cuz I'm trying to be a "douche". Lastly, and probably most importantly, it's got a fine legacy of developer support. It's refreshing that after nearly 2 years of me owning this phone, I am never bored. Then again, my phone before that was an ancient Windows Mobile device, so I guess my expectations might have been a little low at the time Anyway, it has been, overall, the best investment I've made in my entire life in tech. It's sad that neither HTC nor Google are supporting new drivers anymore, but I can't really blame them. It's been a good, long ride.
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The screen glass is a BEAST! Not one scratch on it, even when it's been in my pocket with car keys and sand from the shores of California. Screen protectors be damned! The trackball is a nice touch. It makes editing text so much easier than even some of the newer phones I've played with at the AT&T and Verizon stores. Speakerphone quality is decent. Earpiece...not so much, IMO. That's why I insist on a quality Bluetooth earpiece for everything. It's purely practical, not cuz I'm trying to be a "douche". Lastly, and probably most importantly, it's got a fine legacy of developer support. It's refreshing that after nearly 2 years of me owning this phone, I am never bored. Then again, my phone before that was an ancient Windows Mobile device, so I guess my expectations might have been a little low at the time Anyway, it has been, overall, the best investment I've made in my entire life in tech. It's sad that neither HTC nor Google are supporting new drivers anymore, but I can't really blame them. It's been a good, long ride.Sent from my Nexus One using xda premium
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I've had my Nexus One for about six months now. I absolutely love it. It was a huge step up from my old G1. Even though the phone has over two year old hardware now and won't be leading the way in any benchmark tests, it seems very modern and I feel can keep up very well with modern apps and webpages in everyday use.
I haven't had any hardware problems other than the touchscreen getting glitchy every blue moon, but it's not a deal breaker for me. The camera, I feel, is pretty good. I used it as my primary camera for three months and I've had no complaints.
I'm a bit disappointed that there won't be an official ICS update, but I feel that I can live with Gingerbread for a while. If you can find a Nexus One for a good price, I wouldn't hesitate to pick one up.
I haven't had any hardware problems other than the touchscreen getting glitchy every blue moon, but it's not a deal breaker for me. The camera, I feel, is pretty good. I used it as my primary camera for three months and I've had no complaints.
I'm a bit disappointed that there won't be an official ICS update, but I feel that I can live with Gingerbread for a while. If you can find a Nexus One for a good price, I wouldn't hesitate to pick one up.
Ive had mine for about 2 years now, I bought it off someone else, Ive had no problems with the touchscreen or the powerbutton, I cant tell you how many times ive dropped it, probably dropped it atleast 5 times today. Once I know of was on pavement, granted I do have an otterbox case to it just to get it a little bigger feel, Big Hands, I have had the one problem with the touch screen when you are trying to play certain games taht it won't register correctly but just a simply taking one finger off fixes it instantly. I use the Torch atleast once every couple days on deathray and havn't had any problems in that area. Already tried the ICS from Medroid and MIUI, Medroid was near perfect except A2sd isn't fully functional yet, and I lost root access. If you can find one for about $100 and its already rooted, Id say go for it, I'm hoping mine will last for maybe another year, waiting on next nexus, I don't feel that the Dev support will die anytime soon either, so unless it physically breaks I don't see a need for getting a newer one anytime soon.
I think the big issues deserve a bit of context.
While the touch sensor is sad, it's only bad compared to everything that came after it (well, and i* devices). There's really only a few practical concerns:
Palm rejection: Unless you have large hands, you'll find sometimes you just need to use your other hand for a touch to properly register.
Games: Because of how the sensor works, when there two contacts, it sees two X coordinates and two Y coordinates and it doesn't always pair them up correctly. You can be touching top-left and bottom-right and depending on how your fingers moved around before that, it might think you're on top-right and bottom-left. This means you will probably fail a lot in games that require multitouch and don't take this issue into account.
Possessed by demons: No matter how careful you're being, it thinks you're doing something completely different from what you think you are. I've noticed it to mostly be an issue with humidity. If I've gotten out of the shower within the last 20 minutes or it's foggy/misting, this will happen within a minute of use. If a raindrop gets on the phone, I get about 10 seconds before it no longer works.
Fortunately, the last problem is solved by turning the screen off and back on again, but our power buttons do wear out. Where I live it's pretty damp most of the year so I used the power button a lot and it took about 19 months for mine to get flaky. Some people's seem to be a lot more fragile than others though.
Those are all that will affect most people. Since you're on this site, you may be advanced enough to run into other issues, but for the most part they've been worked around.
While the touch sensor is sad, it's only bad compared to everything that came after it (well, and i* devices). There's really only a few practical concerns:
Palm rejection: Unless you have large hands, you'll find sometimes you just need to use your other hand for a touch to properly register.
Games: Because of how the sensor works, when there two contacts, it sees two X coordinates and two Y coordinates and it doesn't always pair them up correctly. You can be touching top-left and bottom-right and depending on how your fingers moved around before that, it might think you're on top-right and bottom-left. This means you will probably fail a lot in games that require multitouch and don't take this issue into account.
Possessed by demons: No matter how careful you're being, it thinks you're doing something completely different from what you think you are. I've noticed it to mostly be an issue with humidity. If I've gotten out of the shower within the last 20 minutes or it's foggy/misting, this will happen within a minute of use. If a raindrop gets on the phone, I get about 10 seconds before it no longer works.
Fortunately, the last problem is solved by turning the screen off and back on again, but our power buttons do wear out. Where I live it's pretty damp most of the year so I used the power button a lot and it took about 19 months for mine to get flaky. Some people's seem to be a lot more fragile than others though.
Those are all that will affect most people. Since you're on this site, you may be advanced enough to run into other issues, but for the most part they've been worked around.
For the blueish tint in pictures, mine did this before I even had a flashlight program. Eventually I learned that if I turned the flash on (or manually used the flashlight) before I took the picture. It'd get the white-balance correct. I've since used death-ray many times and not noticed it change.
i had this phone before i got my galaxy nexus. needless to say, it was quite the upgrade.
the nexus one isn't a bad phone by any means. it has its quirks but holds its own for its age.
the nexus one isn't a bad phone by any means. it has its quirks but holds its own for its age.
My biggest complaint with the nexus one is that it doesn't have enough ROM. Many of the high end phones that came out after it are definitely better, especially if you tweak them to get rid of the garbage that manufacturer's and carriers put on them.
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