No Tomtom, no CoPilot for WP7?

[freddy28]

The major players in the mobile navigation market don't work on a port of their famous gps applications for WP7.


Source and full article:
http://wmpoweruser.com/why-are-tomtom-and-alk-copilot-turning-their-back-on-5-million/

 

[MartyLK]

The major players in the mobile navigation market don't work on a port of their famous gps applications for WP7.


Source and full article:
http://wmpoweruser.com/why-are-tomtom-and-alk-copilot-turning-their-back-on-5-million/

That's because WP7 isn't currently capable of that type of nav. It requires APIs that MS hasn't released yet. But when the updates start coming, maybe those will happen.

 

[emigrating]

That's because WP7 isn't currently capable of that type of nav. It requires APIs that MS hasn't released yet. But when the updates start coming, maybe those will happen.

Wrong. Navigon has an app out there already using no internal APIs (apart from the one giving access to IMEI/IMSI numbers).

 

[freddy28]

That's because WP7 isn't currently capable of that type of nav. It requires APIs that MS hasn't released yet. But when the updates start coming, maybe those will happen.

API's should be available long time ago because Navigon made a carrier-restricted MobileNavigator app, Telmap made a carrier-restricted app and there's the freely available beta a-to-b app in the marketplace.

Unfortunately Navigon is restricted to T-Mobile and only offes a germany (dach) map and the telmap and a-to-b app are online apps. Could get quite expensive, if you're not in your carrier's net (roaming).

 

[MartyLK]

So you guys are saying WP7 can now do turn by turn voice guided nav?

 

[emigrating]

So you guys are saying WP7 can now do turn by turn voice guided nav?

It's always been able to - just not thru Bing maps [yet]. All the APIs necessary are available to developers (i.e. Location API).

I've been using Navigon since launch pretty much and while the app still leaves a bit to the imagination it does indeed work as expected. Also very quick in getting a lock and seems to track my location very precise.

 

[hukkguai]

So you guys are saying WP7 can now do turn by turn voice guided nav?

There is Telenav which is available for $10 a month for voice nav which has been available for a while now. Don't think it's worth the $10 but wireless employees get the service for free.

 

[MartyLK]

That's good to know. I was lead to believe the system didn't yet have this ability. Are these apps currently available and as good as their counterparts?

Just did a market search for Navigon and came up unfound.

Jesus frikking Christ! The market is so sluggish! It is such a pain in the rear trying to browse the damn thing. Scrolling is painful and loading takes forever.

 

[PieOfJustice]

|I just checked all the markets and there is no app called "Telenav"

 

[freddy28]

Are these apps currently available and as good as their counterparts?

Just did a market search for Navigon and came up unfound.

Navigon uses the same maps as the iPhone version so theoretically there should be no differences between the versions.

Unfortunately, you will only find Navigon in the marketplace if you're using a t-mobile germany/austria sim card or t-mobile germany/austria branded device. Navigon said they're working on a carrier independent version but they did not mention a specific release date.

 

[MartyLK]

Navigon uses the same maps as the iPhone version so theoretically there should be no differences between the versions.

Unfortunately, you will only find Navigon in the marketplace if you're using a t-mobile germany/austria sim card or t-mobile branded device. Navigon said they're working on a carrier independent version but they did not mention a release date.

But I am using a T-Mobile branded device. My HD7 is specific to T-Mobile in the US.

 

[freddy28]

|I just checked all the markets and there is no app called "Telenav"

Telenav is only available for T-mobile US carrier customers.

 

[MartyLK]

Telenav is only available for T-mobile US carrier customers.

I couldn't find it either.

 

[emigrating]

Navigon is exclusive to TMODE, Telenav is exclusive to TMOUS and AT&T Navigator is exclusive to, wait for it, AT&T

Navigon is the best one though as it's "offline" navigation and there are no monthly fees.

I spoke to Navigon not long ago and I believe their exclusivity deal runs out around mid-summer which means we should find the app available for everyone in the marketplace. They have recently updated their existing app from v1.4 to 2.1 which is more in-line with competing platforms in terms of functionality also.

I couldn't find it either.

It's in the TMOUS marketplace, named T-Mobile Telenav GPS. Currently at v5.9.

 

[MartyLK]

Navigon is exclusive to TMODE, Telenav is exclusive to TMOUS and AT&T Navigator is exclusive to, wait for it, AT&T

Navigon is the best one though as it's "offline" navigation and there are no monthly fees.

I spoke to Navigon not long ago and I believe their exclusivity deal runs out around mid-summer which means we should find the app available for everyone in the marketplace. They have recently updated their existing app from v1.4 to 2.1 which is more in-line with competing platforms in terms of functionality also.



It's in the TMOUS marketplace, named T-Mobile Telenav GPS. Currently at v5.9.

I don't have a T-Mobile marketplace. I have an HTC market, but I also did a direct search for T-Mobile and didn't see the Telenav app. I also typed in "T-Mobile Telenav" and came up not found.

 

[freddy28]

Navigon is exclusive to TMODE, Telenav is exclusive to TMOUS and AT&T Navigator is exclusive to, wait for it, AT&T

Thanks for this clarification, emigrating.

 

[emigrating]

I don't have a T-Mobile marketplace. I have an HTC market, but I also did a direct search for T-Mobile and didn't see the Telenav app. I also typed in "T-Mobile Telenav" and came up not found.

Do you not have a TMOUS branded device? Either because you purchased off-contract or flashed a generic ROM? If so, you'll have to side-load. If you do have a branded phone you should be able to click this link from your phones browser however.

 

[MartyLK]

Do you not have a TMOUS branded device? Either because you purchased off-contract or flashed a generic ROM? If so, you'll have to side-load. If you do have a branded phone you should be able to click this link from your phones browser however.

My HD7 is a T-Mobile branded device and was bought from T-Mobile. But I paid for it outright rather than sign a contract for service. It isn't one of those international phones that can be used on any GSM network. It can only be used with T-Mobile...for 3G data, that is. It is sim-unlocked, though.

Is it possible that the sim card needs to be inserted for it to access T-Mobile apps?

 

[emigrating]

Is it possible that the sim card needs to be inserted for it to access T-Mobile apps?

That sounds plausible. Stick your (or any) TMOUS SIM in there and it should give you access to it. Be aware though that the app itself may also be carrier dependant which means you can't run the app without a correct SIM inserted.

 

[MartyLK]

That sounds plausible. Stick your (or any) TMOUS SIM in there and it should give you access to it. Be aware though that the app itself may also be carrier dependant which means you can't run the app without a correct SIM inserted.

That is the case. I powered down my HD2, which runs an outstanding Energy WinMo ROM...love using that baby...and pulled the sim to put in my HD7. Once booted, I typed in T-Mobile Telenav and was rewarded with the app.

Eh...I now remember why I never used it before...even on my HD2. It costs $10 per month. Would rather spend $30 to $50 for CoPilot or Navigon or Tom Tom or some other downloaded nav and not face a monthly fee. Not having a steady income kind of forbids the extra cost...even though my cellphone bills are paid by my relative. I choose not to take advantage of them.