Nokia Lumia 800 reviewed

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Seems to show the same general anti-wp7 bias common amongst tech blogs but less so than most. Commendable enough, though how it didn't outscore the n9 I dont know.
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Wow, you really see evil everywhere. Anti-wp7 bias? And why should it outscore the N9 exactly? Using their comparison tool, it makes total sense the N9 scores higher. Not to mention you're complaining about a 0.1 difference.
And you call people haters...

http://www.theverge.com/products/compare/42/2593
 
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I think it is a pretty objective review. Where the 800 shines, without question, is in the distinctive case design:

The Lumia 800 / N9 design ethos is all about effortless simplicity for the user, but it's backed by a stupefying amount of calculation, modeling, and testing behind the scenes. What you see and feel in your hand is a seamless piece of soft-touch plastic, curved on all sides and gently tapering toward flattened-out top and bottom surfaces, fronted by a curved screen. It's natural and pleasant to the touch, with great ergonomics and weight balance — the diametric opposite of the cold and impersonal appearance of most modern technology. Being able to meld that aggressively minimalist monobody design with a fully functional smartphone is where Nokia's manufacturing chops really shine through.
Aside from a non-removable battery, it is probably the most attractive-looking phone I've ever seen.

The rest of the review does a commendable job of digging into the phone's strengths and weaknesses, and pulls no punches on areas where they feel Nokia/Microsoft could have done better (the unresponsive physical buttons, average camera performance, competitive but not stand-out WP7 hardware, and so on).

Someone looking for a good WP7 phone would do well to consider the 800. It's a shame it won't be in the US for several months.
 

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Because despite astounding hardware, meego is pretty much completely unsupported, not as fluid as wp7, and pretty much completely unsupported. Not to mention it's about as aesthetically appealing as Symbian. If they're reviewing software at all then despite WP7's shortcomings it greatly supercedes meego.
 

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Because despite astounding hardware, meego is pretty much completely unsupported, not as fluid as wp7, and pretty much completely unsupported. Not to mention it's about as aesthetically appealing as Symbian. If they're reviewing software at all then despite WP7's shortcomings it greatly supercedes meego.
You can argue WP7 isn't the best supported OS either and the N9 gives you Front Facing camera, 4 times more storage, double the RAM, a bigger screen, NFC, pentaband, tethering, video out. Since you're not scoring potential, it seems fair that the N9 scores higher.
 
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The 4 times more storage and FFC are considerable, the rest aren't really factors to the vast majority. What would a meego phone even do with all that ram? That said, the score differential is in the design element. There really is very little design difference unless an added dedicated camera button docked the score considerably.
 

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The 4 times more storage and FFC are considerable, the rest aren't really factors to the vast majority. What would a meego phone even do with all that ram? That said, the score differential is in the design element. There really is very little design difference unless an added dedicated camera button docked the score considerably.
Whatever dude.
 
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I finally got the chance to pick up and play with a n9 the other day and disregarding the OS i was really not impressed with the build of the phone. Most of my quarrels are with the physical buttons similar to what the article mentioned and i really do not like having the micro usb ports at the top of the phone as opposed to the bottom as i like to put my phones in a cradle at my desk.

Although this is the n9 i am sure its is very similar to the lumia 800. This is definitely not the phone for me primarily due to its small screen size, as i like the real estate i currently hold with my HD7.

I still think its funny when reviewing WP7 devices they actually talk about the operating system other then to increase awareness. The WP7 experience is the same across nearly all handset minus included software, this is different to android reviews as they can have different interface which effect look and performance. Continuity is a wonderful thing.
 

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I'm still on the fence of whether to stay with WP7, or put it on the back burner (for now) while it finishes cooking. But, if I do stick with it, and assuming that Nokia can iron out the camera issues prior to releasing the 800 in the US, and assuming that there is a 32 GB option, this will probably be my phone of choice.
 

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The Verge has what I believe to be the first review for this phone.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/3/2534861/nokia-lumia-800-review
Peew, its me. :) Please just hear (or read) me out for a few minutes and maybe we can see eye to eye.

I can't stand engadget's reviews but they are a necessary evil. I am hoping The Verge is different and when I opened the link you posted, I noticed the author's name sounded familiar. Vlad Savov... Vlad... where have I seen that before? Then I remember a conversation I had with a good friend about this article here.

Go to that link. Scroll down to the Disqus comments section. Sort by Best Rating. The comments complaining about Vlad are overwhelming. There was an aspect of the tablet that he complained about and it turned out he did not know what he was doing.

Now, back to where we are. I have not read the review yet and it may be a fair one. Engadget also posted their review today. I will read both and comment.

But Vlad was a questionable reviewer then at Engadget. Maybe he got better. Maybe he was being censored.

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I just read The Verge's review and it honestly sounded like a fair review. He nitpicked on the buttons on the phone, but since I haven't used it I will defer. Zee, you might be a little too sensitive ;)

I could not even get through the first paragraphy of the Engadget review. They started off by slamming Elop for saying the 800 is a refinement of the N8, citing every hardware feature is worse. The Lumia 800 has a 1.4GHz cpu, radio, bettery battery life, a dedicated camera button, and Windows Phone on it. Clearly in a Windows Phone event, he would refering to the whole package as a refinement.
 
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I don't know why people seem to hate on Engadget, I think they do a great job on reviews. I've read their Lumia 800 review and it's no less fair than The Verge's (most of The Verge crew comes from Engadget anyway). Fine, not every feature is worse but they do have a point. I can give you the better processor if you want but the battery is the same (battery life is not battery) and the radio is part of the OS. So really that's it. Ok I can also give you the camera button if you want.
Elop has gone on record claiming that the Lumia 800 is a "refinement" of the N9. That's not a good use of English and we can't let it slide, because every hardware difference between the two devices leaves the Lumia 800 worse off. There's no globetrotting pentaband 3G, which means no AWS support for T-Mo USA's network. The front-facing camera and notification LED have evaporated. The screen is slightly smaller due to the intrusion of the Windows Phone buttons. There's only 512MB of RAM instead of 1GB. Onboard storage maxes out at 16GB rather than 64GB with the N9. NFC is also inexplicably lacking, so the phone can't pair up with Nokia accessories and it probably won't be able to keep up future innovations that Nokia says its working on for Windows Phone 8 (aka Apollo).
I don't know why some of you can't admit the Lumia 800 is a downgrade from the N9 hardware-wise, this is pretty clear.
 

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I don't know why people seem to hate on Engadget, I think they do a great job on reviews. I've read their Lumia 800 review and it's no less fair than The Verge's (most of The Verge crew comes from Engadget anyway). Fine, not every feature is worse but they do have a point. I can give you the better processor if you want but the battery is the same (battery life is not battery) and the radio is part of the OS. So really that's it. Ok I can also give you the camera button if you want.

I don't know why some of you can't admit the Lumia 800 is a downgrade from the N9 hardware-wise, this is pretty clear.
I do. I'm not impressed with the 800. Haven't been, either. But I just read something about the N9 that intrigued me. It has MeeGo and that's the only mobileOS I have never experienced.
 

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I don't know why people seem to hate on Engadget, I think they do a great job on reviews. I've read their Lumia 800 review and it's no less fair than The Verge's (most of The Verge crew comes from Engadget anyway). Fine, not every feature is worse but they do have a point. I can give you the better processor if you want but the battery is the same (battery life is not battery) and the radio is part of the OS. So really that's it. Ok I can also give you the camera button if you want.

I don't know why some of you can't admit the Lumia 800 is a downgrade from the N9 hardware-wise, this is pretty clear.
software is more important to me than hardware. That's why I dont use android.