[Nook HD] CM10/CM10.1 General Discussion

[ST Dog]

I have no idea what happened to your superuser.

I'm going to try flashing the 30 Dec build and see if it restores superuser.

And there is no need to change partition sizes since /data and /sdcard share the same space.

The 8GB card only has 847MB for "internal" storage. The rest (5.62GB) is allocated as sdcard.
She's running out of internal space.

Currently have 99MB free on internal, and 2.85GB free on sdcard.

You should be able to use the CWM on the SD to backup your SD install and then restore it to the new card once the installer partitions it.

Not real clear on how CWM backups work. (can you point me to a good primer?)
Do they compress? Will it put the backup files on eMMC?
I don't think they will fit on the card, and even if they do, how do I get the backup files form the old card to the new card?

I've not had any luck with adb and Windows 8. Would they be in a location readable via USB?

 

[leapinlar]

I'm going to try flashing the 30 Dec build and see if it restores superuser.



The 8GB card only has 847MB for "internal" storage. The rest (5.62GB) is allocated as sdcard.
She's running out of internal space.

Currently have 99MB free on internal, and 2.85GB free on sdcard.



Not real clear on how CWM backups work. (can you point me to a good primer?)
Do they compress? Will it put the backup files on eMMC?
I don't think they will fit on the card, and even if they do, how do I get the backup files form the old card to the new card?

I've not had any luck with adb and Windows 8. Would they be in a location readable via USB?

The space issue is true of the old SD scheme, but the new scheme that both bokbokan and verygreen use on CM10.2 is just like the emmc install, /data and /sdcard share the same free space. Sdcard is emulated out of /data.

CWM backups are compressed when they are saved. And you can choose where you want them stored. I would choose internal so it is there when you want to restore to the new SD.

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[ST Dog]

The space issue is true of the old SD scheme, but the new scheme that both bokbokan and verygreen use on CM10.2 is just like the emmc install, /data and /sdcard share the same free space. Sdcard is emulated out of /data.

But that's what I currently have installed.

So you're saying do a CWM backup, then install the latest 10.1 on the new card, then restore the backup?

Or do I need to move to 10.2 or 11 for the new layout?
10.1 has been great. I'd hate to move to something that is less stable or has compatibility issues.
I was wanting to keep what worked, just give her more room for apps (hence the post in the 10.1 thread).

If I need to change something else please point me to the right thread for the correct files.

For example, can I use the CM11 SD card install image and then flash 10.1 using that to get the larger, shared /data

(Probably a subject for another thread, but if I wanted to move to CM11, would the CWM backup be usable to restore the apps/data?)

 

[leapinlar]

But that's what I currently have installed.

So you're saying do a CWM backup, then install the latest 10.1 on the new card, then restore the backup?

Or do I need to move to 10.2 or 11 for the new layout?
10.1 has been great. I'd hate to move to something that is less stable or has compatibility issues.
I was wanting to keep what worked, just give her more room for apps (hence the post in the 10.1 thread).

If I need to change something else please point me to the right thread for the correct files.

For example, can I use the CM11 SD card install image and then flash 10.1 using that to get the larger, shared /data

(Probably a subject for another thread, but if I wanted to move to CM11, would the CWM backup be usable to restore the apps/data?)

Based on the date of your CM10.1 hummingbird ROM you are running bokbokan's version of his SD install. If you want to stay with an SD install for hummingbird you must stick with bokbokan. He has CM10.1, CM10.2 and CM11 all available for SD and hummingbird. But they are all incompatible with each other and must be on their own burned SD. CM10.1 uses the old scheme with the separate /data and /sdcard. CM10.2 uses the new emulated /sdcard that shares /data. CM11 uses that same scheme but requires a different (newer) version of CWM.

So if you want to go to a newer larger SD you must start over burning. And you say you want to stay with CM10.1. So I recommend backing up your existing install with CWM to internal memory. Then burn bokbokan's CM10.1 image and boot with it once without installing the ROM. That creates the partition structure. I am not positive but I think bokbokan set it up to have a larger /data on larger SDs. If not, repartition per my instructions below. If the partition structure is what you want just restore your backup to the new SD and you will be good to go.

If you need to repartition get partitioning software free on the web (Mini-Tool or EaseUs) and use that to change the SD before restoring the backup. Delete partition 4 and 5 and expand partition 3. Then recreate partition 4 as extended and partition 5 as fat 32 logical. Then restore your backup with CWM.

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[ST Dog]

Based on the date of your CM10.1 hummingbird ROM you are running bokbokan's version of his SD install. If you want to stay with an SD install for hummingbird you must stick with bokbokan. He has CM10.1, CM10.2 and CM11 all available for SD and hummingbird. But they are all incompatible with each other and must be on their own burned SD.

Correct. I don't know of any other SDcard installs for CM10.1.

So there's no easy way to migrate 10.1 to the new scheme.
With the merge, I don't think the 8GB card would have been an issue for her.

As of last night I setup CM11 on the new card, and restored apps+data, and system data using TB.
(I think I may need to reinstall gapps to be sure I have all the correct versions, time will tell).
It appears to have worked, though I ran into another issue (see the CM11 thread)

I still have the original card as well as full images from the cards so I can go back to various stages.

I can always manually change the partitions (thanks for that info) and restore the CM10.1 backup (again, thanks for the CWM info)

Not sure what I want to do with my own tablet though. Looks like 10.1 is done, and I can't use my BT keyboard with it.
So if I have to move to get BT working, do I go to CM10.2 or jump to CM11.

 

[leapinlar]

Correct. I don't know of any other SDcard installs for CM10.1.

So there's no easy way to migrate 10.1 to the new scheme.
With the merge, I don't think the 8GB card would have been an issue for her.

As of last night I setup CM11 on the new card, and restored apps+data, and system data using TB.
(I think I may need to reinstall gapps to be sure I have all the correct versions, time will tell).
It appears to have worked, though I ran into another issue (see the CM11 thread)

I still have the original card as well as full images from the cards so I can go back to various stages.

I can always manually change the partitions (thanks for that info) and restore the CM10.1 backup (again, thanks for the CWM info)

Not sure what I want to do with my own tablet though. Looks like 10.1 is done, and I can't use my BT keyboard with it.
So if I have to move to get BT working, do I go to CM10.2 or jump to CM11.

You are right, the only CM10.1 for the hummingbird is by bokbokan and it uses the old scheme. Verygreen has an SD version of CM10.1 that uses the new scheme but it is for ovation only.

And I can think of no easy way to run bokbokan's SD CM10.1 for hummingbird on the new scheme. You would need to move up to CM10.2/CM11.

I don't know why you stick with the SD install. I run CM10.1.3 stable on emmc and love it on both my HD+ and HD.

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[ST Dog]

I don't know why you stick with the SD install. I run CM10.1.3 stable on emmc and love it on both my HD+ and HD.

I like being able to make an image of the card and have a complete backup.
I like that if my daughter breaks her tablet, I can put her card (or one from backup) in anbother device and it's all there.

We had tablets with custom ROMs on internal storage before and when one died it was too much work to restore and too much was lost in the process. I never even sent the one with lots of bad pixels back under warranty because of the hassle.

I can play around with different OS tweaks and such, and always get back to the original state with just a simple rewrite of the SD card.

The SD installs were a big factor in my going with the Nook v/s other tablets.

And if my wife (the odd ball in the family) has trouble with the stock setup, I can jump to that easily to test things, then factory restore my tablet and return to my SD card.

If I ever get time I hope to set up a cross compiler and try OS devel work (like bokbokan and verygreen do). Again, don't have to worry about as much going wrong when it's all on the SD card.