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owl74

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Hi guys, I have been recently reading a few Note 2's dying of SDS (Sudden Death Syndrome). This has affected previous Galaxy S3 phones, and now some versions of Note 2.

========= Note: This is different from the exynos bug ==========

To check, install "eMMC Check" from google play and run it. Disregard the message saying Brick bug = No. Sane chip, and look at your eMMC chip type and FWRev.

If your:

Type: VTU00M
FwRev: 0xf1

your phone is affected by the bug.

I have read that Andreilux's Perseus kernel V31.2 (Perseus alpha31 (09/01)) temporarily repairs this bug. I am running his kernel anyway. But my question is, how many of you guys have the above chip?

It does include the fix but otherwise they're outdated, same story as on the S3.

Updated to 31.2; same changes as on the S3:

Samsung's fix for the sudden death syndrome (SDS) included. It is caused by eMMC failure on phones with VTU00M 16GB internal memory chips with revision 0xF1. You can check your phone with the "eMMC Brickbug Check" in the Play Store (Ignore the message if it says you're not affected, the type and revision is what matters). The patch is a firmware soft-patch that is applied on every boot and MMC resume, it is not a permanent fix. You will need to stay forever on kernels which include the patch, this also includes updated recoveries and their embedded kernels.


Perseus kernel thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36552266#post36552266


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Updates and useful links:


UK/EU Samsung repair: free samsung repairs

I spoke to these guys this morning asking about the free postage on their site, according to them, postage is free but they are not tracked, and they advised me to use a recorded/insured postage.
 
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whit3h4wks

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Does that mean if i install that kernal i will be safe if so please post the link to that kernal

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owl74

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thanks whit3h4awks.

I have updated the op with AndreiLux's statement and posted the thread to his kernel.
 

whit3h4wks

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But according to my knowlegde I think still you wont be safe while you are on recovery mode.
"A developer please confirm this"

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chteh0721

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Hi guys, I have been recently reading a few Note 2's dying of SDS (Sudden Death Syndrome). This has affected previous Galaxy S3 phones, and now some versions of Note 2.

To check, install "eMMC Check" from google play and run it. Disregard the message saying Brick bug = No. Sane chip, and look at your eMMC chip type and FWRev.

If your:

Type: VTU00M
FwRev: 0xf1

your phone is affected by the bug.

I have read that Andreilux's Perseus kernel V31.2 (Perseus alpha31 (09/01)) temporarily repairs this bug. I am running his kernel anyway. But my question is, how many of you guys have the above chip?




Kernel thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36552266#post36552266

My phone is affected, having the exactly same type and firmware rev. I'm using it since October 16 until now and so far it never failed me. I've been flashing countless ROM and kernel and touch wood so far it still working fine
 

bushako

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Okay installed the Perseus kernel. Fingers crossed it doesn't get bricked in Recovery mode as I'm frequently trying out roms in cwm.

Sent from the Rabbit Hole
 

denied1977

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What do you recommend for flashing - cwm or twrp.....I just red that twrp was updated that soft patch for SDS so i guess it wouldn't be a problem with flashing through it....
I now have cwm 6.1.5 and i guess it's not patched because its rather old (2-3 months).....But i just want to know is twrp as good as cwm - never used it :p
 

EarlZ

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Either use the official 4.1.2 or the v31 from perseus to avoid the SDS, correct?

Are there any reports of SDS on the Note 2 to begin with ?
 

bushako

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What do you recommend for flashing - cwm or twrp.....I just red that twrp was updated that soft patch for SDS so i guess it wouldn't be a problem with flashing through it....
I now have cwm 6.1.5 and i guess it's not patched because its rather old (2-3 months).....But i just want to know is twrp as good as cwm - never used it :p

I'm using TWRP now coming from CWM...they're both good at doing what they're advertised to do...although twrp has extra options and looks a bit better as the keys are larger and fill the entire screen and it has a file explorer and allows you to backup you're entire phone either on the internal or external memory sort of like an image of a hard drive on my computer.

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ionutzm05

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Well, it's too bad that we can't flash the desires ROMs and kernels. Is CM10 safe?
I just flashed stock ROM XXDLL4, rooted and reset counter. If it dies, I hope it will die as soon as possible so I can get rid of it. I can't take the risk of losing 600€ because Samsung are making buggy smartphones. I'm right now forced to stay on stock, just to not lose warranty.
However, are you guys 100% sure the bug is fixed in XXDLL7 and Perseus kernel?
 

owl74

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Nov 15, 2012
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Well, it's too bad that we can't flash the desires ROMs and kernels. Is CM10 safe?
I just flashed stock ROM XXDLL4, rooted and reset counter. If it dies, I hope it will die as soon as possible so I can get rid of it. I can't take the risk of losing 600€ because Samsung are making buggy smartphones. I'm right now forced to stay on stock, just to not lose warranty.
However, are you guys 100% sure the bug is fixed in XXDLL7 and Perseus kernel?

That's what they say in the perseus kernel thread.

Anyway here is link for latest TWRP recovery for note 2:
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/115
 
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threelancelot

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Dec 1, 2011
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It apear I have the bad chip

Well I have mi GS not II since december 31, and it apear I have the bad chip, but my question is I read about the lasted kernel LL7 corrected the problem, but I live in Mexico and last night I have a update to my kernel to version LL3 is this the same versión of LL7 but the 3 is for latin america?

thanks in advance
 

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    Hi guys, I have been recently reading a few Note 2's dying of SDS (Sudden Death Syndrome). This has affected previous Galaxy S3 phones, and now some versions of Note 2.

    ========= Note: This is different from the exynos bug ==========

    To check, install "eMMC Check" from google play and run it. Disregard the message saying Brick bug = No. Sane chip, and look at your eMMC chip type and FWRev.

    If your:

    Type: VTU00M
    FwRev: 0xf1

    your phone is affected by the bug.

    I have read that Andreilux's Perseus kernel V31.2 (Perseus alpha31 (09/01)) temporarily repairs this bug. I am running his kernel anyway. But my question is, how many of you guys have the above chip?

    It does include the fix but otherwise they're outdated, same story as on the S3.

    Updated to 31.2; same changes as on the S3:

    Samsung's fix for the sudden death syndrome (SDS) included. It is caused by eMMC failure on phones with VTU00M 16GB internal memory chips with revision 0xF1. You can check your phone with the "eMMC Brickbug Check" in the Play Store (Ignore the message if it says you're not affected, the type and revision is what matters). The patch is a firmware soft-patch that is applied on every boot and MMC resume, it is not a permanent fix. You will need to stay forever on kernels which include the patch, this also includes updated recoveries and their embedded kernels.


    Perseus kernel thread:
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36552266#post36552266


    ==============================================================

    Updates and useful links:


    UK/EU Samsung repair: free samsung repairs

    I spoke to these guys this morning asking about the free postage on their site, according to them, postage is free but they are not tracked, and they advised me to use a recorded/insured postage.
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    for those of you who can't check the unit with emmc, here are the series of tests you can do to check if the unit has the 0xf7 chip:

    - the 1st four numbers of the IMEI code on the box should be 3550 and up
    - if you can open the box but still can't do installation of the emmc app, you can do this test: on the dial pad input *#12580*369# then look for the HW Rev (last one) and should be: MP 1.301 (MP 1.300 is the 0xf1)

    i've read this somewhere within this thread and did those tests prior to purchasing and yes i got the 0xf7.
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    10.000.000 devices have been sold until now.
    60.000 owner of note2 have been reading this thread.
    20-30 SDS's have been reported here.
    Bottom line: the risk of SDS is less than 0.1%!
    Fair, there might be an increase over the next months since many devices are currently not in the critical age.
    However, I don't think we do need to worry to much about it. Especially not if you're on the latest versions of ROM, Kernel and Recovery.
    Just my 2cent...

    I don't care what the statistics say. I know that if even one person encounter this issue, it gives him/her 100% frustration and upset. I may sound biased because my phone just died (no PIT partition), but trust me, I'm definitely in a better state than some of the users who have no idea what the hell is going on, given some of them do not come to the forum. Hell I wish I did not use the phone so much without coming to XDA more often to discover these issues proactively, because I assumed the device I spent this much on should have been more stable or at least not being troubled with serious issue like this.

    I do agree with you that the number is pretty low, but also think of the everyday person who has never heard of XDA they aren't reading about this problem and go to their provider and get there device replaced.... I just want Samsung to make a damn official statement about it already but it's not looking to likely

    So I am with Kjc here. Screw Samsung.

    well according to this poll result after using of 6 months(people who have 0xf1 chip) 6 phones died out of 11

    at that poll most of the people have not used their phone for six month.(11 people)

    the % is much higher!

    Again this is some statistics. Note, however, it is not about how high the chances are. It is about how LOW it is and yet I still happen to be one of the victims. Not to mention that the population of N7100 users in the forum should only be a sample of the total population of N7100 users worldwide. If I can be the one who is this unlucky, anyone can (or could have been). As of today, only 20% of VOTERS are having this issue, but the number of total voters is merely 35.


    BTW, I've only used the phone for 5 months.

    ---------- Post added at 04:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:50 PM ----------

    Ok i sounded like a lil whining b1tch in the last post sorry guys. I was just hit by this sudden death thing and read around a little more and feel much better now. As I realized that it is actually pretty funny to read things like "SDS is coming" LOL. It reminds me of someone saying "OMG I'm gonna die".

    Anyway, I searched in this thread a little bit using keywords "AT&T" "U.S." "US" "United States" but found nothing. My concern is that has anyone in the U.S. who bought thru Amazon's import sellers had this issue and claimed his warranty successfully? I bought the phone Oct 31, 2012 thru an Amazon seller called Wireless Everything (or sth similar). I think the phone was from Austria when I checked after open it, and I flashed Open Germany 4.1.1 firmware. Am I gonna be able to contact and use U.K. customer service for warranty claim and repair? Or does Austria phone get to be sent to Samsung Austria?

    Thanks for any inputs if you know.
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    well.... According to "Theory of probability" almost 50% phone is dying after use of six months with insane chip(6 out of 11)
    Fact: Your sample size is too insignificant to make a conclusion according to normal common sense. You dun even need to read whatever theory to know that.
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    Oops.

    Done the test. ..

    Insane chip.

    Have the latest software so hope I am okay now.

    No root so can't check anything further.

    Worried about what would happen after warranty expires though....

    How possible is it to get a replacement phone off I explain?

    Are you in the EU law? EU law covers you for up to 5 years for a design flaw like this, or up to 2 years for regular electronic device faults.