Note 3 Stutter, Lag, and Other Issues

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Sounds like you and all of your friends have defected devices. I own all of the note phone devices as well as tablets. This is by far the biggest improvement to me in the note series.

And are you sure your friend didn't brick his phone himself and blame it on knox? My friend did something similar and blamed it on knox just cause it was the last thing he saw as it was trying to keep him from screwing up his phone. But remotely black listing a phone or unauthorized locking just sounds weird.

Also using a class 10 sd card could help you with your camera issues if your saving to external.






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For some reason I have noticed that my att note 3 n900a stutters and lags when playing games that my mega 6.3 and note 2 have zero issues playing. Games like, Fifa14, Nba2k13, Homerun Battle 2, Real Basketball, and Frontline Commando. This baffles me, give the fact the adreno 330 and quad core a15 based krait 400 is theoretically capable of nearly double the computational capacity of the exynos 4412 of the note 2, and around 1.25x faster than the dual core a15 based s400 chip in the mega with adreno 305. The only thing I can figure which would cause this stuttering, frame dropping, and lag is lack of optimization or compatibility with the newer gpu, but given the fact the mega has the same basic architectural framework, albeit dual vs quad core a15 and higher clock, the compatibility should not be the issue. Im wondering if the insane overheating is causing massive throttling of the cpu and gpu, as my n3 heats up and dims the screen by 60% in only a few minutes of play, which is extremely annoying.

Ive also noticed that pictures take appx 4 to 6 seconds to process upon capturing the image, when set at 13mp and superfine quality. Again, with the power of the soc this is ridiculous.

There is also a bad delay between hitting the lock button and the time it takes for the phone to turn off the screen and lock the phone.

Lastly is the worst problem with the note 3...the call quality and speaker quality. While others may attempt to justify the hideous sound quality of the speakers baffles me, as the ear piece is quiet and tinny, and the speakerphone is so tinny and filled with digital artifacts it makes calling or talking on the note 3 an absolute chore. I realize the fact that its a phone and am not expecting dolby 7.1 hd audiophile quality, but the call quality of the note 3 is atrocious and has kept me on the edge of retunring it, as it fails to be even a decent phone.

All in all, im a massive note fan, I own all 4 note devices and love them, and bought the note 3 to be a backup to my mega 6.3 but to be honest. Its nowhere near the phone the note 2 is. For all its power and benchmark bragging rights, it performs identical or worse in nearly every aspect to the note 2 and mega 6.3 in real world use. The ui transitions are identical, as is the scrolling animations. The call and sound quality cannot stamd up even to my nearly 2 year old note 1 and are an absolute joke for an 800 dollar flagship device.

Another decision by samsung that I cannot comprehend is the s pen and software for the s pen. The s note app has had the entire premium suite stripped feom note 2 in the note 3 inexplicably, missing formula match with wolfram alpha, global search, and shape fixing. The handwriting recognition either doesnt work at all, or when it chooses to work, is a horribly ineefective "scrolling style" input vs. The intuitive and precise input of my note 2, note8, and note 10.1. The action memo is a redesigned ui of quick command ripped directly from note 2, except minus the customizable inputs and actions which quick command allows for in the rest of the note series.

If I wasnt a massive note series fan, and hadnt waited almost a year for the note 3 I would never have purchased it at all. Especailly given that its .13 inches larger than note 2, which is appx 3.2mm taller screen which is so tiny of a difference even side by side its hard to tell them apart. Subjectively, I much prefer the note 2 look and design, and overwhelmingly love the mega screen size over note 3, on top of the tacky fake stiching back panel, I am having to force myself to find anything at all which I like or serves me better than the note 2. Worse s pen input, worse s pen shape and size, stuttering laggy gameplay, overheating and screen dimming...EXTREME BATTERY DRAIN vs note 2, giving appx 2 hours less screen on time at identical settings of brightness and features active, and call quality so bad I try to avoid it if possible any time I carry the phone.

All in all, the only upgrades ive seen in the week 9 days ive had the note 3 is a slightly clearer picture quality in bright lighting, but this is offset with terrible mid and low light quality due to lack of any night mode for shooting, and slightly brighter screen. Hopefully samsung and att will update the note 3 soon to adress several of these issues in the software, as I do see great potential for the note 3 given the hardware kit inside, but the speaker and call quality is a hardware issue that is doubtful to change.

I am making this post as an honest objective take on my experience with the note 3, a phone I was absolutely ecstatic to get at 10:01 on day 1 of launch, but has left me dissapointed and havent seen these issues adressed honestly and openly. Again, I love the note lineup, I now have all 5 note devices and will be getting note 10.1 2014 after the first update releases, so please dont mistake where im coming from, as im sure much of these issues will hopefully get sorted out soon.




Why is it everything I read, all over this fourm from you, you just bitching how you dont like the note 3? You said your friends had there phones bricked over the air?????Really, Stop the maddness! Wake up if your parents don't give you enough attention I guess this would be a great outlet. Please just get another phone, stop crying!!!!!! Thank You....Oh No my phone just got bricked over the air.....WTF
 

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With all due respect;

1. I tried searching the forum for others posts or threads about samsung remotely bricking rooted note 3 devices and the only thing I came across were other posts by you, telling users to search the forum for knox bricking rooted note 3 devices.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46426811

2. Nothing from a google or xda search would lead me to believe that you get 7 hrs screen on at 100% from a device with the same 3200 mah and a larger LCD display. I know the mega is 1.7 ghz dual core, but I can't believe that, that factor alone is going to offset your battery consumption that greatly, seeing that displays are always the biggest battery consumer.

I'm not attacking you, I'd just like to see some links that back your points up.

Also, have you tried turning off the one handed operation to garner better gaming performance?
 
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I play Fifa 14 on my AT&T Note 3 and it's smooth as silk. I have not seen any lag or stutter on that or any game I tried. Not saying it's not true. Just that you are mistaken if you think all Note 3's will lag or stutter on those games.
 
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Why is it everything I read, all over this fourm from you, you just bitching how you dont like the note 3? You said your friends had there phones bricked over the air?????Really, Stop the maddness! Wake up if your parents don't give you enough attention I guess this would be a great outlet. Please just get another phone, stop crying!!!!!! Thank You....Oh No my phone just got bricked over the air.....WTF
You should have said your concerns differently, besides that everyone whats to think that they know something special. What your talking about is your friends having no clue on how to root a phone and skipping steps. This FACT has been proven time and time again. Instead of coming on this forum and making statements like my phone is slow and other assorted bs, maybe ask a questions and not pretend to know what your talking about. NO one on XDA claims to know everything about phones.
 

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Why is it everything I read, all over this fourm from you, you just bitching how you dont like the note 3? You said your friends had there phones bricked over the air?????Really, Stop the maddness! Wake up if your parents don't give you enough attention I guess this would be a great outlet. Please just get another phone, stop crying!!!!!! Thank You....Oh No my phone just got bricked over the air.....WTF
Hahahahah.... dude thank you.... I laughed so hard at your post just picturing what a complete ass hole duchebag you must be, to get so upset over like 3 posts that clearly state.... These are MY EXPERIENCES.... just in case your tiny brain can't understand.... that means, from my own personal usage of my n900a or a few of my close friends that have similar issues as I laid out.... plus if you could read and comprehend my warning about Knox.... I said after setting up the Knox dual boot a stem, he then proceeded to root his phone.... Once you utilize the Knox security system it pings back and forth with samsung servers.... In the same way you can remotely wipe the phone if stolen, , essentially bricking the phone, the Knox system did this approximately 5 hours after a successful root. It's really not a difficult situation to understand.

Ps I absolutely love how serious you can take a a phone lol.... too bad I laid out a couple faults that you can't objectively step back and see. overheating and throttling, horrible phone and sound quality, mediocre low light camera shots...and I'm good with dropping 800 on it and never touching it again.... I have 8 other phones laying around I 6 of which I bought to mess with in the last 5 months.... Don't like the post don't read it.... but why ***** about someone's experiences with a phone just because you may not have some particular issues lol keep it classy my man

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1. I tried searching the forum for others posts or threads about samsung remotely bricking rooted note 3 devices and the only thing I came across were other posts by you, telling users to search the forum for knox bricking rooted note 3 devices.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46426811

2. Nothing from a google or xda search would lead me to believe that you get 7 hrs screen on at 100% from a device with the same 3200 mah and a larger LCD display. I know the mega is 1.7 ghz dual core, but I can't believe that, that factor alone is going to offset your battery consumption that greatly, seeing that displays are always the biggest battery consumer.

I'm not attacking you, I'd just like to see some links that back your points up.

Also, have you tried turning off the one handed operation to garner better gaming performance?
I'm running another battery test as we speak and will post my results at the end, but one question.... why do you think I would make the point of comparison of battery life if I didn't actually get the stated 6 to 7 hours screen tim.... or 24 hrs total time and 5 to 6 screen on at full brightness lol? your response is extra puzzling given you obviously don't own a mega so you can't have any idea or you would know my posted times are pretty much standard across the board for the i9205. But here's a little tuition for ya.... the dual core cpu is b snappy yet extremely efficient on battery life, but the main factor is 720p 1280 x 720 screen resolution on a super clear lcd. Given the fact your not pushing double the pixels across the display matrix means your going to save a vast majority of battery compared to full 1080 resolution. For the same reason that at identical settings the note 2 gets appx 40% greater onscreen time by pushing the same amount of data across half the pixel matrix means your only having to interpolate and display one half the amount of data. Although the case of the mega is slightly different given it runs the newest gen dual core chipset.

I have no reason to bull**** as I don't know anyone on an anonymous site nor do I give a **** what anyone on here thinks. I posted my experience with my 11 flagship devices I have lying around the house in comparison with my new note 3, and my experiences with my note 3 and a few close friends n3s. Period. your mileage may vary.... As these are MY experiences my man take it or leave it I don't really gaf


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Just a question.... can people not read or comprehend the fact that I point out a couple issues and clearly say that samsung will more than likely fix these issues with updates? I mean are these classics that post quoted bits of my original post and then try to attack the points or take meaningless personal shots too stupid to understand this? I'm baffled that this is the level of stupidity shown on this forum.... that an open discourse on personal experiences get taken out of context, without reading the last few sentences that clearly state the note 3 has the potential to be the greatest device ever created once a few of these links are ironed out. In addition to the level that people elevate their ignorance to over a phone is hilarious. so for any of you that can't read or comprehend more than a few sentences here it is in small words and bullet points lol

-- note 3 is a good device.
- it's quick and smooth in transition and animations
- the speakers are bad and the sound quality is not good (( but can be helped by an update to the dac)
- the screen is bright and vibrant with beautiful saturation and popping colors
- certain games drop frames or stutter due to the quick throttling caused by the cpu heating up, which dims the screen (( again this too can be tweaked and will be tweaked upon update)
- the battery life is average but this is a trade off for 1080 screen and insanely powerful s800 chipset.... albeit still gives 3.5 to 4 hours screen on at max brightness
- all in all a great device but will be amazing after some issues that at least a few people I personally know and myself are having which have been seen in other posts across xda and various forums
- the camera is sharp but needs a night shot algorithm to aid low light shooting because as is lowlight produces muddy and somewhat blurred photos

Simple enough guys.... try reading then posts next time.... sorry if my longer post went over your head, maybe that's just the 3 years of medical school and a biochemical pharmacology degree coming thru.... I'll dumb it down for you guys from now on ;)

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I just wanted to say thank you for telling me how smart you are ( book wise), But you are are a social misfit. You do struggle with your communicating skills. I only could wish to be on a social level of the same. Someday. I do work for a living. When I buy a phone its not a toy, I don't have a money to throw around like you do. Maybe someday I will get a friend like you that has a disposable income, so you can buy me phones to brick.
I'm jealous of you. Will you be my friend?????
 
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Just a question.... can people not read or comprehend the fact that I point out a couple issues and clearly say that samsung will more than likely fix these issues with updates? I mean are these classics that post quoted bits of my original post and then try to attack the points or take meaningless personal shots too stupid to understand this? I'm baffled that this is the level of stupidity shown on this forum.... that an open discourse on personal experiences get taken out of context, without reading the last few sentences that clearly state the note 3 has the potential to be the greatest device ever created once a few of these links are ironed out. In addition to the level that people elevate their ignorance to over a phone is hilarious. so for any of you that can't read or comprehend more than a few sentences here it is in small words and bullet points lol

-- note 3 is a good device.
- it's quick and smooth in transition and animations
- the speakers are bad and the sound quality is not good (( but can be helped by an update to the dac)
- the screen is bright and vibrant with beautiful saturation and popping colors
- certain games drop frames or stutter due to the quick throttling caused by the cpu heating up, which dims the screen (( again this too can be tweaked and will be tweaked upon update)
- the battery life is average but this is a trade off for 1080 screen and insanely powerful s800 chipset.... albeit still gives 3.5 to 4 hours screen on at max brightness
- all in all a great device but will be amazing after some issues that at least a few people I personally know and myself are having which have been seen in other posts across xda and various forums
- the camera is sharp but needs a night shot algorithm to aid low light shooting because as is lowlight produces muddy and somewhat blurred photos

Simple enough guys.... try reading then posts next time.... sorry if my longer post went over your head, maybe that's just the 3 years of medical school and a biochemical pharmacology degree coming thru.... I'll dumb it down for you guys from now on ;)

Mega
My .02 on why you get the responses to your posts. You come off a little condescending in a lot of your posts. Makes no difference to me one way or another as I just choose to read or ignore them and go on with my business.

By the way, I have the mega also and though it gets great battery life, it still doesn't match my note 3's or even my note 2's for that matter in this area. Love the mega as it is the screen size I wanted for the 3 but oh well..

I have not encountered any of the issues you have described but wish you luck with getting them corrected if you choose to keep using it.

By the way, why would you want to run either the note 3 or the mega at full screen brightness? I have not encountered any situation that would require that, be that in full sunshine or even under direct lighting.

Max out....

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I'm ignoring all the banter back and forth, but I do have a few things to chip in with my note 3 as far as stutter goes.

It's not just the note 3, I've seen stutter on the S4 and S4 active too. Anything I've used that has the Samsung stock on it has stuttered during game play. This may just be because the stutter is more noticeable during gameplay than during something like web browsing.

It's not a terrible stutter, I drop like two frames every 5-10 seconds.

On an S4, I ended up trying out a rom that was Google stock and the stutter went away, which makes me pretty sure it has something to do with the background processes of Samsung or Touchwiz.

I've been freezing every app I can on my note 3, but haven't found anything that gets rid of the stutter yet. I'm hoping since we got root that a way to use a custom ROM isn't too far in the future.

If through experimenting with freezing apps I come across one that removes the stutter, I'll be sure to let everyone know as well.
 

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Simple enough guys.... try reading then posts next time.... sorry if my longer post went over your head, maybe that's just the 3 years of medical school and a biochemical pharmacology degree coming thru.... I'll dumb it down for you guys from now on ;)
Here, in a nutshell, is the difference between IQ and EQ lol.
 
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I'm ignoring all the banter back and forth, but I do have a few things to chip in with my note 3 as far as stutter goes.

It's not just the note 3, I've seen stutter on the S4 and S4 active too. Anything I've used that has the Samsung stock on it has stuttered during game play. This may just be because the stutter is more noticeable during gameplay than during something like web browsing.

It's not a terrible stutter, I drop like two frames every 5-10 seconds.

On an S4, I ended up trying out a rom that was Google stock and the stutter went away, which makes me pretty sure it has something to do with the background processes of Samsung or Touchwiz.

I've been freezing every app I can on my note 3, but haven't found anything that gets rid of the stutter yet. I'm hoping since we got root that a way to use a custom ROM isn't too far in the future.

If through experimenting with freezing apps I come across one that removes the stutter, I'll be sure to let everyone know as well.
Please do tell us. I have a slight stutter in Youtube maybe every 10 seconds or so. It pauses ever so slightly. The audio is fine though. It's enough to annoy me because it simply shouldn't be happening. My Jelly Bean HP Touchpad can play back HD videos with no stuttering, I mean come on now.

Same goes with the browsing. All browsers except for Chrome Beta have either a medium amount of stuttering or a significant amount of stuttering. Even Chrome Beta isn't perfect but it's the closest I can find to no stuttering. Stock browser is second best but the scrolling is so slow anyway.

These performance problems have really taken my enthusiasm for this device down a notch. It's sad because it really shouldn't be happening.
 

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Simple enough guys.... try reading then posts next time.... sorry if my longer post went over your head, maybe that's just the 3 years of medical school and a biochemical pharmacology degree coming thru.... I'll dumb it down for you guys from now on ;)

Mega
HAHA! You went for a PharmD? Simple enough: every time you think a REAL physician is talking down to you, we are. We'll try to dumb it down next time. Good thing you went into research (or working at Rite-Aid).
 
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My .02 on why you get the responses to your posts. You come off a little condescending in a lot of your posts. Makes no difference to me one way or another as I just choose to read or ignore them and go on with my business.

By the way, I have the mega also and though it gets great battery life, it still doesn't match my note 3's or even my note 2's for that matter in this area. Love the mega as it is the screen size I wanted for the 3 but oh well..

I have not encountered any of the issues you have described but wish you luck with getting them corrected if you choose to keep using it.

By the way, why would you want to run either the note 3 or the mega at full screen brightness? I have not encountered any situation that would require that, be that in full sunshine or even under direct lighting.

Max out....

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Roll on the Note 3 Mega :)
 
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I just wanted to post a follow up to my original post.

After swapping my 1st note 3 4 times, I finally received a solid note 3 n900a...and it is amazing. Although, it took me 4 phones finally getting the 5th brought me a near flawless device without many of the issues of the original n3 of which my post was made. I know that there are others out there that are having some issues that I raised in my op, and I hope you guys are still within your time frame to swap.

This new note has zero lock screen lag when locking the phone, minimal overheating when gaming and zero when browsing, essentially ceasing my issue with the screen dimming. A gorgeously detailed and colorful camera with extremely fast shutter and processing times, and lastly but for me most importantly...A much much much better sounding device in terms of the phone portion.

I just wanted to leave an update to my post as I was trying to be objective in the beginning, as I am still tonight. My original phone and the subsequent phones until this final swap had issues of varying degree until finally I got the note 3 I was hoping for. So in the balance of fairness and my .02 cents...If anyone else is running into any of the aforementioned issues from my op good luck getting a swap and hopefully your new phone will deliver an amazing bit of kit as I was lucky enough to get on my final day for swap.

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I just wanted to post a follow up to my original post.

After swapping my 1st note 3 4 times, I finally received a solid note 3 n900a...and it is amazing. Although, it took me 4 phones finally getting the 5th brought me a near flawless device without many of the issues of the original n3 of which my post was made. I know that there are others out there that are having some issues that I raised in my op, and I hope you guys are still within your time frame to swap.

This new note has zero lock screen lag when locking the phone, minimal overheating when gaming and zero when browsing, essentially ceasing my issue with the screen dimming. A gorgeously detailed and colorful camera with extremely fast shutter and processing times, and lastly but for me most importantly...A much much much better sounding device in terms of the phone portion.

I just wanted to leave an update to my post as I was trying to be objective in the beginning, as I am still tonight. My original phone and the subsequent phones until this final swap had issues of varying degree until finally I got the note 3 I was hoping for. So in the balance of fairness and my .02 cents...If anyone else is running into any of the aforementioned issues from my op good luck getting a swap and hopefully your new phone will deliver an amazing bit of kit as I was lucky enough to get on my final day for swap.

mega
I have no doubt Samsung has varying levels of quality control issues.
 

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One thing that bugs me on the 3 that didn't happen with the 2:

When I get a notification while listening to music through headset, when music comes back on it stutters for the first half second to second of play then everything is normal. Not sure if this is from the music being on SD card or not. Will try it with internal storage now that I think about it. SD card is a class 10 Samsung 32 gb . I have a little bit over 10gb of music on it.

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