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-BoneZ-

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I wish they wouldn't market the CPU as being 8 cores.

Little (4x Cortex A7) / Big (4x Cortex A15)
True. As Adrynalyn stated earlier in the thread, it's just a gimmick. While the CPU is technically an 8-core, you'd only be using 4 cores at any given moment, so not a true 8-core.



Why is that? You're never going to fully utilize the 4 cores you have now on the Note 2, so what are you going to do with the 4 additional cores? They will just sit and collect dust and never be used. You can't productively mulitask enough in Android to come close to utilizing the current 4 cores we have now. It will be a complete waste to have a true 8-core processor.

And, the link you posted discussing the Sony Togari phone is rumored to use the Snapdragon 800 which is a 2.3 GHz 4-core.
 

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BoneZ:

Multitasking could very well make some changes in upcoming releases, which could make more cores worthwhile.

I expect Android to evolve and see the multi-tasking improve as the amount of everyday computing we ask of the devices increases. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, it wouldn't be the first time that has happened.



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comparing the devices might work

I don't mind the change in screen size personally. I own a nexus 7 and with the help of wifi tether and tablet talk i used my nexus 7 as a phone for weeks while my screen was cracked on my galaxy nexus. since i've upgraded to the note 2 i find my self missing my nexus 7 at times.

so i made a quick image to show how much bigger the screen would be. and if Samsung does choose to use this size. I PERSONALLY WILL BE VERY HAPPY
 

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Old MuckenMire

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BoneZ:

Multitasking could very well make some changes in upcoming releases, which could make more cores worthwhile.

I expect Android to evolve and see the multi-tasking improve as the amount of everyday computing we ask of the devices increases. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, it wouldn't be the first time that has happened.
You have to remember, there were those that claimed we would never fully utilize 2 cores when all we had were single core devices. This has been going on ages. Android will move forward and thankfully for us the hardware will too.
 

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Not experts, just people like you:p
People like me would've never made such a statement because some of us actually know what we're talking about.



Android will move forward and thankfully for us the hardware will too.
That is true, however the need for true, full 8 cores on a mobile device will not be needed for years to come. Do you understand that 8 cores even on a desktop is not needed by most? Do you understand that having multiple games running, burning DVD's, antivirus, messengers, and everything that can run on a desktop all at the same time doesn't even fully utilize 4 cores?

I'm asking again, what are you going to do with 4 additional cores? You won't be running multiple games at the same time or burning DVD's on a mobile phone. Nor will anybody be doing any commercial photo or video editing on a mobile phone anytime soon. Therefore, you will not need 8 cores anytime soon. I'm having a hard time understanding why this is so hard to comprehend.


Do people just want 8 cores so that they can walk around and say "Hey! I've got an 8-core phone, even though I'll never, ever come close to using those 8 cores!!!"
 

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People like me would've never made such a statement because some of us actually know what we're talking about.





That is true, however the need for true, full 8 cores on a mobile device will not be needed for years to come. Do you understand that 8 cores even on a desktop is not needed by most? Do you understand that having multiple games running, burning DVD's, antivirus, messengers, and everything that can run on a desktop all at the same time doesn't even fully utilize 4 cores?

I'm asking again, what are you going to do with 4 additional cores? You won't be running multiple games at the same time or burning DVD's on a mobile phone. Nor will anybody be doing any commercial photo or video editing on a mobile phone anytime soon. Therefore, you will not need 8 cores anytime soon. I'm having a hard time understanding why this is so hard to comprehend.


Do people just want 8 cores so that they can walk around and say "Hey! I've got an 8-core phone, even though I'll never, ever come close to using those 8 cores!!!"
Geez now you're going back and editing posts so you can have the last word:laugh::laugh: I thought you were moving on.:laugh:
 

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Geez now you're going back and editing posts so you can have the last word:laugh::laugh: I thought you were moving on.:laugh:
I thought you were, too.

And all I did was state that you are in no position to know if Samsung's 8-core devices will be overkill because you have no knowledge of the chips or how they will be implemented.... and you got upset.

Agreed, moving on is for the best. :good:
 

Old MuckenMire

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I see, a case of giving advice but not being able to take it ;)
Nope I was simply agreeing with him, I wouldn't presume to give him any advice about where or when he posts. ;);)

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I don't mind the change in screen size personally. I own a nexus 7 and with the help of wifi tether and tablet talk i used my nexus 7 as a phone for weeks while my screen was cracked on my galaxy nexus. since i've upgraded to the note 2 i find my self missing my nexus 7 at times.

so i made a quick image to show how much bigger the screen would be. and if Samsung does choose to use this size. I PERSONALLY WILL BE VERY HAPPY
I couldn't disagree more. I own a N7 as well and while it's ok I would never want a phone in that form factor.
 

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In a few years 4 cores will seem primitive, just like a single core phone does now. The world is going mobile. You can crank your car, lock your doors, and open your garage door with your smartphone. The largest and most widely accepted computer OS has went with a tablet UI. The lines between computer/tablet/smart phone are blurring.

Samsung is the leading mobile device manufacturer IMO and they're planning for the future as any successful company would. They're making some of the biggest phones in the industry and the consumers love them. They'll continue to grow those screens until sales say the screen is too big. They're beefing up batteries, implementing functions not found elsewhere (S Pen and Motion Settings), and increasing processing power. Until consumers decide what is too much, they'll continue with this trend. They're taking risks and reeping the benefits. If you think 8 cores is too much, keep your GN2 ane don't buy a GN3. If enough people respond this way they'll build more quad core processor devices. If 8 cores prove profitable, guess what new devices will run?

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In a few years 4 cores will seem primitive, just like a single core phone does now. The world is going mobile. You can crank your car, lock your doors, and open your garage door with your smartphone. The largest and most widely accepted computer OS has went with a tablet UI. The lines between computer/tablet/smart phone are blurring.

Samsung is the leading mobile device manufacturer IMO and they're planning for the future as any successful company would. They're making some of the biggest phones in the industry and the consumers love them. They'll continue to grow those screens until sales say the screen is too big. They're beefing up batteries, implementing functions not found elsewhere (S Pen and Motion Settings), and increasing processing power. Until consumers decide what is too much, they'll continue with this trend. They're taking risks and reeping the benefits. If you think 8 cores is too much, keep your GN2 ane don't buy a GN3. If enough people respond this way they'll build more quad core processor devices. If 8 cores prove profitable, guess what new devices will run?

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They will seem primitive in a marketing sense (4 cores), but they still won't be needed (8 cores).

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They can do this by lessening the bezel, just like they did with the Note 2 from the Note 1, keeping similar form factor from the S3 with that big of a screen. If they lessen the top where the speaker grill is put at the top, you don't have the bigger bezel with the Samsung name on it, and pushing the button to the very bottom, I believe they can do this while keeping it the same size as the Note 2. If they can do this I'm ALL IN for it, though even if it wasn't and was just a tad bit unruly, I'd be all in for it as well. This device is as close to perfect as I could think it could be.
 

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Seems like this phone game is becoming a di*k swinging contest.. They should keep the 5.5 and make the screen clarity crazy clear.. Not bigger, 6.3 is just too big..
 

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Actually, I see the need in a situation like this.
: You are a known dj/techie and go to a party. Someone remember your sick playlist and asks u to stream it. Someone else wants to watch a movie you have. You want to play a game thru hdmi. I also forsee the built in projectors become more popular...etc etc

People like me would've never made such a statement because some of us actually know what we're talking about.





That is true, however the need for true, full 8 cores on a mobile device will not be needed for years to come. Do you understand that 8 cores even on a desktop is not needed by most? Do you understand that having multiple games running, burning DVD's, antivirus, messengers, and everything that can run on a desktop all at the same time doesn't even fully utilize 4 cores?

I'm asking again, what are you going to do with 4 additional cores? You won't be running multiple games at the same time or burning DVD's on a mobile phone. Nor will anybody be doing any commercial photo or video editing on a mobile phone anytime soon. Therefore, you will not need 8 cores anytime soon. I'm having a hard time understanding why this is so hard to comprehend.


Do people just want 8 cores so that they can walk around and say "Hey! I've got an 8-core phone, even though I'll never, ever come close to using those 8 cores!!!"
 
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Please let this thread die....its nothing but speculation. Reminds me of the Apple boys and their next iphone feature rumors.

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