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Super Chimp

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I have a suspicion that the Note 4 will be easier to use, Samsung invented this market sector and has got very good at producing usable devices for it.
 
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Stock Android > TouchWiz

That was easy

Although to be fair, the Note 4 probably has a much better camera. But TouchWiz.. I'll stick with the Nexus 6.

Agreed ^^ if the note 4 on Verizon had an unlocked boot loader and I could load up Liquid Smooth, AICP or some type of AOSP, I'd take it. No ifs ands or buts.

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Even as a big proponent of the stock Android experience and a lover of the biggest screen possible, I'm heavily leaning toward the Note 4. The Nexus 6 is pretty much the same size as my bulky as hell Huawei Ascend Mate 2 (while also stupefyingly being thicker). It's too big. I can deal with all the other Nexus tradeoffs (no microSD slot, no removable battery) but there was no reason that I can surmise to have made a device this big, heavy and thick.
 

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As a Note 2 user, I'll be glad to move away from Touchwiz. I have enjoyed my Note 2 but it never did run perfectly on any AOSP or CM rom and I'm really tired of the lag of Touchwiz, though it does okay with a different launcher.

To be fair I never really found the S-Pen useful, and that knocks out one of Note 4's primary advantages for me.
 
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I can't wait for the nexus 6. I have had all the notes, and I like them, but the difference between the 3 and the 4 is marginal for me as i don't really use the s pen or Samsung features that much. I love a big screen and I fancy a change... Especially an unlocked one for basically $200-300 less with fundamentally the same hardware (oh, and stereo speakers).

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I also tend to think much of the negativity today has been driven by the surprise price bump. I suspect a lot of negativity will quietly dissolve as the release grows near.
 
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TouchWiz looks ugly and dated. A refresh has been long over due. Why can't Samsung be more like Motorola & add features to a stock ROM to differentiate it self from it's competitors?
 

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I don't mind the price. I'm more concerned about the size. I have an HTC One m8 now and its awkward 1 had sometimes. I am the guy that has a ballistics case with the belt clip. So fitting in pocket is OK. Multi screen in stock would be a nice feature. But it's a nexus. So it will come aftermarket. I have never doubted going nexus. I'm thinking about keeping my m8. Someone conceive me to trade up.

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To have a Nexus-like device with a removable battery, microSD slot, while being significantly smaller, thinner and lighter?

exactly...the only thing good about the nexus 6 is the front speakers....other than that...the note 4 sweeps the floor with it

AOSP has never worked flawlessly on my Note 2. I have no reason to believe it will work better on Note 4.

my friend never had any problems on his note 3...
 
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    Stock Android > TouchWiz

    That was easy

    Although to be fair, the Note 4 probably has a much better camera. But TouchWiz.. I'll stick with the Nexus 6.
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    People have been trying to tell you guys that these are two very different devices that are aimed squarely at two different audiences. For the vast majority of people, a phone such as the Note 4 is NOT going to appeal to those who would even care about a Nexus 6. Same as a Nexus 6 isn't going to appeal to MOST people who would like a Note 4.

    The average consumer (this means nobody here) is either gonna go for all the Samsung features and use it as it comes out of the box, or they aren't. They aren't going to stand around and compare screens and cameras and such. Honestly it's no surprise the Note 4 is on paper and for the majority of consumers a vastly superior device. I mean look at it. It has a SPen, heart rate monitor, finger print scanner, and all those Samsung bells and whistles. The sheer amount of "features" it has is a selling point regardless if people ever use them. Nobody (obviously some but not many) outside of xda cares if the battery comes out...or if they can watch YouTube and use a calculator at the same time..... .. They are too busy taking selfies with the "obviously superior camera because bigger numbers equals better". Samsung is the Apple of the Android world.

    What average consumer would buy a bland, gigantic, Nexus 6 that has none of those features? Mostly nobody. The moment you try to convince someone the Nexus 6 is superior (for the true reason it is) which is the ability to root, rom, customize, etc...... Their eyes glaze over and they suddenly realize you're a complete phone nerd and they "just want a nice phone" not something they have to work on, change, modify, tweak, etc...... They want to take it out of the box, be able to impress everyone with a gazillion features, and feel good about their purchase. This is not the Nexus 6 owner......

    But the largest audience of a Nexus device doesn't really care about anything mentioned above...... They know half of it is junk or will not be used, and they would rather not have all that crap because they were never interested in it to begin with.

    I'm not here, like yourself and this hello guy going on about how the Nexus 6 is clearly the better device. I'm saying and have been saying that they are both great devices, which are aimed at different consumers, and therefore there is no "best device" because there is no "singular consumer".

    I'm also not over in the Note 4 forums trying to post about how the Nexus 6 is clearly the better device. Because it's a personal choice. I'm better than that. So as long as you come over here to spout off negative remarks about the Nexus 6 in the Nexus 6 forums while you own a Note 4.......you will have to deal with this.

    If you had a Nexus 6 with SPen, removable battery, fingerprint scanner, heart rate monitor, and a gazillion other features like Touchwiz, in which case it was trying to directly compete with the Note 4....then yes, by all means, compare them. But they aren't. So I don't. It doesn't matter to me who thinks what about any device. I am picking the device that is going to serve me best and so should you. Nobody should be buying a device because "it's the best because they read it somewhere"

    To continue to make posts like "come on guise clearly the Note 4 is the best device evar! because so and so said so"........ Is not providing anything to the thread.
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    I was back and forth between these 2 for a while and seriously considered the note4, but for me the trade offs between the screens are ok compared to the advantage of front speakers and ease of use and eventual availability of custom roms. I had an S3 and while it was pretty good I consistently had issues with GPS and cell signal, and the AOSP roms for it never fully stabilized. My N5 has always had pretty good signal, despite what reviews said. I think too many people get hung up on written reviews and don't make decisions based on 1st hand experience. If you've used both phones side by side for at least a day and still choose the note, ok. But if you are bashing either phone without actually using it maybe just don't comment, you make it more difficult for the rest of us who haven't fully committed to one or the other.

    I wish there was some way to filter out the useless posts and have a thread with ONLY actual comparisons of these 2 phones from people who've had them both.

    I currently have both, so here is my take. (As a side note, I had the iphone 6+ for a bit too, both the note 4 and nexus 6 are better....and this is coming from a guy who spent the last year on ios, and still thinks the ipad is the best tablet).

    The note 4, when I got it, moving from the iphone 6+, was great. I was amazed by it. The screen and camera where nice, but the six plus had both a great screen and camera as well. It was the performance and functionality of android, since I last used it, that really impressed me. It wasn't as smooth looking (it was fast, just not as fluid) as the 6+...but it was still good enough. I really enjoyed my last 3-4 weeks with my note 4.

    The cons of the note 4? Well I never got great battery life with my note 4 (in fact, I am getting better battery life out of my nexus 6, and was getting better battery with the iphone 6+), I rooted it, romed it, greenifyed, etc. I made the phone better than it was out of the box...but the battery life wasn't what I expect...but good enough. Anyway, despite all my rooting and etc, I still found touchwiz to be a bit over bearing. The spen was great...but I still preferred google keep and typing my notes. The spen was useful when annotating a picture you took (my water heater went out, sent a picture to a plumber, with some spen drawn arrows, and it helped convey what I needed to). But, overall, the spen was a killer feature for me. I am an academic, a biologist, and I do a lot of note taking...and it still wasn't practical to me. Anyway...my biggest grip was touchwiz. The random lags were still present, but less than in the past. The biggest problem was the look (I used nova launcher and icon packs to help hide this). Apps didn't seem to have a common theme (so I turned to third party apps), and overall I didn't like the look. Then I saw what samsung is doing with lollipop, and was disappointed. Material design is all but absent...and that is disappointing. I understand that cyanogen mod or whatever may come to the note 4, but I shouldn't have to do that, or put up with the instability initially. I really don't have time for that kind of thing anymore, or the desire...that is part of the reason I moved to iOS for a while.

    Then came the nexus 6. People on here will say that the screen and camera are better on the note 4...and I am sure that is correct, but it isn't a noticeable difference to me. The gap is nowhere near big enough to make as big of a deal as people do on here. You can quote whatever review you want, and Ill quote another saying the opposite, and we will get nowhere. Funny how that work, huh? Anyway, the extra .3 inches on the nexus six, while maintaining a form factor similar to the note 4 in size, is outstanding. I have also got some great pictures with the camera, and no bad pictures to speak of. The build quality is great and the phone looks better in my opinion.

    OVERALL, the phones are on par with each other hardware wise. You get a slightly better screen and camera with the note 4. You get a better form factor, look (subjective I know), and front facing speakers with the nexus 6. Pretty much a draw, so I wouldn't let that decide it for you.

    The real killer feature on the nexus 6 is the software. Until you use pure lollipop on the nexus 6 (or nexus 5, moto x, etc; i guess), you can't just dismiss this. It is absolutely beautiful, fast, smooth, and fluid. Everything goes together and it is really just stunning. Honestly, this is the FIRST phone that I can honestly say tops the iphones in software; in terms of presentation and design. Take that, and combine it with the features on android that we have always loved, and you have the best user experience in the mobile ecosystem, in my opinion.

    I have a problem switching phones, but I think that is coming to a stop. iOS is buggy and apple is overcharging for phones that have gimped specs (1gb of ram, and the six plus stutters often, due to scaling and the screen resolution). Other android phones are great, but I don't like the slower updates and aftermarket skins (moto aside). The nexus 6 has everything I need, and I don't see that changing. Plus, if you are dying to have some random feature found on another android phone, chances are it will pop up in the forum of an app in the play store.

    Overall, I pick the nexus 6 (unless something goes horribly wrong in the next few days), and will be putting my note 4 up for sale soon.

    This is solely my opinion, and these are arguably the best two phones on the market, so you can't go wrong. I hope this sheds some insight.
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    So after some more reports begging for this thread to be closed, I have decided it's time to put this horse to rest as it's been beaten enough.

    What probably could have been a useful thread in the beginning, has not turned into nothing more than several people who just want to get the last word in. But after the most recent cleaning, it still just keeps going on with the same players, same topic.

    Thread Closed
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    You guys should head on over to the Note 4 forum if you want the straight poop. It has all the same stuff we have here about the battery being disappointing (check their battery thread, anything from 3 hours SOT *gasp!* to 6.5hrs), and the software is laggy, and blah blah blah, etc... Interestingly though, I didn't really see any Nexus fanboys floating around their forum trying to tell the Samsung faithful how their phone is an awful choice. Hmmmmmmmm.....

    Anyway, my point is that for every item you put in the plus column about the Note, there is probably someone over in the Note forum that has a complaint about it. Which is to say that it's not much different than here.