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Im not one to usually speak out against mods, but for the love of everything sane can we please have this thread shutdown.

Pages and pages of Regime and Pierre arguing like little children, this thread offers nothing to the original discussion except we have all realized that each camp has children with nothing better to do than argue which $700 phone is better on an internet forum.

News flash.. Both phones are excellent and you really arent making a wrong choice in either, the final decision depends on how YOU feel, not someone else..

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You know what "I" think????

I think a couple of folks need to back away from the keyboard for some time.

This is a digital testosterone war you can't possibly win. It's not Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, Vkontakte, or any other social networking place. This is XDA, and we have us some rules folks. And one of them, it to respect other members.

And....contrary to prior belief, there is "0" freedom of speech here. We gots rules. And best Ye be following them.

Now with that said, I believe I will do a little thread cleaning, and clean all this imaginary testosterone from the thread. And if some "quoted" posts get caught up in the cleaning..... too bad :D

Stand By.......

Update: I've cleaned a few pages of all the utter nonsense. A fair warning to the folks involved in this latest fiasco.....

Best keep things social here.... You don't like a post, report it, or ignore it.

Keep things up, and you all should probably dress warm....
 
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I searched the thread for note 4 lag since i dont have that problem at all. From what i see there is a small part having it, most note 4 owners dont. So for me its not a argument to pick the nexus over the note just to avoid lag, just like not to pick the nexus for its burned in display.
 
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I searched the thread for note 4 lag since i dont have that problem at all. From what i see there is a small part having it, most note 4 owners dont. So for me its not a argument to pick the nexus over the note just to avoid lag, just like not to pick the nexus for its burned in display.

Thats interesting as I have seen more burn in on the note 4 than nexus, and just about every review, professional or not, they never fail to mention TW lag. A simple google search confirms this, or even a quick browsing of the note 4 section on XDA.
 

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I searched the thread for note 4 lag since i dont have that problem at all. From what i see there is a small part having it, most note 4 owners dont. So for me its not a argument to pick the nexus over the note just to avoid lag, just like not to pick the nexus for its burned in display.
Exactly! Enough with the lag argument. If you have lag, you have a defective unit. Just like you nexus owners make the argument that the users on your thread who complain about problems also have defective units.

Enough is enough :)
 
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Thats interesting as I have seen more burn in on the note 4 than nexus, and just about every review, professional or not, they never fail to mention TW lag. A simple google search confirms this, or even a quick browsing of the note 4 section on XDA.

Guess your to proccupied on "lag" and read it between the lines. That way you can find stutters during nexus gaming as well...
 
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Guess your to proccupied on "lag" and read it between the lines. That way you can find stutters during nexus gaming as well...

Which you will experience as well, if the note ever gets lollipop that is.... Some devs haven't updated games to work on 5.0.X. Nexus gets higher scores on graphics even though it is the same chipset in the note, but it has better heat dissipation, due to its design. Might want to do some actual research next time ;)
 

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Which you will experience as well, if the note ever gets lollipop that is.... Some devs haven't updated games to work on 5.0.X. Nexus gets higher scores on graphics even though it is the same chipset in the note, but it has better heat dissipation, due to its design. Might want to do some actual research next time ;)

Nah wont experience it, i do not game on my device, better heat dissipation due its design, lol what a detail:). Do better actual research next time? Note is on kitkat, why should i search that "tiny" specific on a feature update involved gaming..while i got a ps3 at home
 

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Which you will experience as well, if the note ever gets lollipop that is.... Some devs haven't updated games to work on 5.0.X. Nexus gets higher scores on graphics even though it is the same chipset in the note, but it has better heat dissipation, due to its design. Might want to do some actual research next time ;)

Guys it's a losing battle with @regime2008 he has the answer for everything as to why the Nexus 6 is the best device in the whole wide world.

Even with the so call professional reviews on youtube and several different website stating the Note 4 is the better device, @regime2008 has to grasp on topics like lag, headphone voltage, heat dissipation and any other odd ball area of comparison to validate his argument.
@regime2008 is single handley responsible for keeping this thread at the on the top of this section.
 

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Nah wont experience it, i do not game on my device, better heat dissipation due its design, lol what a detail:). Do better actual research next time? Note is on kitkat, why should i search that "tiny" specific on a feature update involved gaming..while i got a ps3 at home

Then why even mention it in the first place? lol smh. And research is where that explanation came from

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Guys it's a losing battle with @regime2008 he has the answer for everything as to why the Nexus 6 is the best device in the whole wide world.

Even with the so call professional reviews on youtube and several different website stating the Note 4 is the better device, @regime2008 has to grasp on topics like lag, headphone voltage, heat dissipation and any other odd ball area of comparison to validate his argument.
@regime2008 is single handley responsible for keeping this thread at the on the top of this section.

Yet you just brought it back to the top by responding... And yes the note 4 is the better device for people who like Touchwiz features. Nexus is much better for performance and development. This has been stated many times in this thread. Its all preference based. And the reasons you just stated is why the Nexus is a better device for me... deal with it lol.
 

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Guys it's a losing battle with @regime2008 he has the answer for everything as to why the Nexus 6 is the best device in the whole wide world.

Even with the so call professional reviews on youtube and several different website stating the Note 4 is the better device, @regime2008 has to grasp on topics like lag, headphone voltage, heat dissipation and any other odd ball area of comparison to validate his argument.
@regime2008 is single handley responsible for keeping this thread at the on the top of this section.

I think he stated that it was the best phone in the whole world for HIM. As a matter of fact. All the name calling in this thread, of late, has been the note 4 guys. You continue to degrade the Nexus 6. You even call it a surfboard. It is only slightly bigger than note 4. 3mm wider and 3mm taller. Not much bigger. I have a Nexus 6 and my wife has a Note 4. I love my Nexus and she loves her note. What difference does anything else make?
 

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Thats interesting as I have seen more burn in on the note 4 than nexus, and just about every review, professional or not, they never fail to mention TW lag. A simple google search confirms this, or even a quick browsing of the note 4 section on XDA.

That's because lag exists on Note 4 as it was already said? Do any of those link mention that it is "abysmal lag" and "noticeable worst" (using your quotes) than Nexus 6? If they do can you post them here please?
 

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Then why even mention it in the first place? lol smh. And research is where that explanation came from

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Yet you just brought it back to the top by responding... And yes the note 4 is the better device for people who like Touchwiz features. Nexus is much better for performance and development. This has been stated many times in this thread. Its all preference based. And the reasons you just stated is why the Nexus is a better device for me... deal with it lol.

Do you understand (social) contexts? What i was saying that if you are preoccupied on something no doubt you will find it..example was the stutter on the nexus while gaming
 

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I think he stated that it was the best phone in the whole world for HIM. As a matter of fact. All the name calling in this thread, of late, has been the note 4 guys. You continue to degrade the Nexus 6. You even call it a surfboard. It is only slightly bigger than note 4. 3mm wider and 3mm taller. Not much bigger. I have a Nexus 6 and my wife has a Note 4. I love my Nexus and she loves her note. What difference does anything else make?

THANK YOU! I never said its the BEST phone in the world. I just stated that it is the best for ME and MY needs/wants. If the note 4 was the better phone, don't you think I would be using that instead, being that I still own it? @pierrekid @TonyM77 @shook187 ????? All these note fanboy's should be salesmen/saleswomen for all the sales tactics they try to use.

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Do you understand (social) contexts? What i was saying that if you are preoccupied on something no doubt you will find it..example was the stutter on the nexus while gaming

I never had to search for note 4 lag, yet it is in all the reviews. I first found out about the lag from my friends note 4, and the store display, prior to reading anything about it. I have only seen 3 games that are affected from lollipop though on XDA, never experienced it myself as I only play clash of clans.
 
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THANK YOU! I never said its the BEST phone in the world. I just stated that it is the best for ME and MY needs/wants. If the note 4 was the better phone, don't you think I would be using that instead, being that I still own it? @pierrekid @TonyM77 @shook187 ????? All these note fanboy's should be salesmen/saleswomen for all the sales tactics they try to use.

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I never had to search for note 4 lag, yet it is in all the reviews. I first found out about the lag from my friends note 4, and the store display, prior to reading anything about it. I have only seen 3 games that are affected from lollipop though on XDA, never experienced it myself as I only play clash of clans.

What i dont understand, you noticed about the lag at a friends note, a store, but you just still bought it? Then your gonna buy a device thats better for gaming having a bigger screen and more pure android device but only play clash of clans....the only thing thats left is watching vids and some web browsing (under the shower) as a advantage...

And no, lag is not in all reviews, otherwise i would not buy the device. You got a extra carrier bloated and bootloader locked note 4 or so?

Besides that, i think the nexus 6 is not a phablet due the lack of features, its just a realy big phone, it might be a bit faster, still just a big phone, better speakers, still just a big phone. To me, its not the alrounder but a 'niche', oh, and just a big phone...
 

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What i dont understand, you noticed about the lag at a friends note, a store, but you just still bought it? Then your gonna buy a device thats better for gaming having a bigger screen and more pure android device but only play clash of clans....the only thing thats left is watching vids and some web browsing (under the shower) as a advantage...

And no, lag is not in all reviews, otherwise i would not buy the device. You got a extra carrier bloated and bootloader locked note 4 or so?

Besides that, i think the nexus 6 is not a phablet due the lack of features, its just a realy big phone, it might be a bit faster, still just a big phone, better speakers, still just a big phone. To me, its not the alrounder but a 'niche', oh, and just a big phone...

Well you respond to just about everything I post, so I don't see how you passed the post that I've started at least 5 times in here, about buying a note 4 since the 64gb nexus was on back order for a month... I never bought the phone for gaming, which I also started. I bought it for richer audio, and web browsing/multimedia.

Let me ask you this, would a note 4 that is running AOSP be considered a phablet? Since alotta you guys have mentioned that to get rid of the lag? Because it wouldn't have all those "phablet features" and would pretty much be a smaller nexus... From my understanding, a phablet is a device that is sized between a phone and tablet. Most tablets AND most phones do not have a stylus, or multiwindow, or any other features of the sort, so where do you come up with "a nexus isn't a phablet" theory from?
 

TonyM77

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I think he stated that it was the best phone in the whole world for HIM. As a matter of fact. All the name calling in this thread, of late, has been the note 4 guys. You continue to degrade the Nexus 6. You even call it a surfboard. It is only slightly bigger than note 4. 3mm wider and 3mm taller. Not much bigger. I have a Nexus 6 and my wife has a Note 4. I love my Nexus and she loves her note. What difference does anything else make?

Its not about degrading the nexus, we all have arguments why we think the device we own is better, its also a bit of humor. @regime C'mon regime, when i posted the c'mon son pic, you did one as well, i had a good laugh about yours, so here we surf again! Just to let you guys know the nexus do has more features, like multitasking!
 

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TonyM77

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I think he stated that it was the best phone in the whole world for HIM. As a matter of fact. All the name calling in this thread, of late, has been the note 4 guys. You continue to degrade the Nexus 6. You even call it a surfboard. It is only slightly bigger than note 4. 3mm wider and 3mm taller. Not much bigger. I have a Nexus 6 and my wife has a Note 4. I love my Nexus and she loves her note. What difference does anything else make?

I guess you did not read the last 100 pages or the last 10 (no offence, the last 3 ones are removed by moderator, so you could not have read that), but just note guys calling names here is not true, that we all know...
 
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    Stock Android > TouchWiz

    That was easy

    Although to be fair, the Note 4 probably has a much better camera. But TouchWiz.. I'll stick with the Nexus 6.
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    People have been trying to tell you guys that these are two very different devices that are aimed squarely at two different audiences. For the vast majority of people, a phone such as the Note 4 is NOT going to appeal to those who would even care about a Nexus 6. Same as a Nexus 6 isn't going to appeal to MOST people who would like a Note 4.

    The average consumer (this means nobody here) is either gonna go for all the Samsung features and use it as it comes out of the box, or they aren't. They aren't going to stand around and compare screens and cameras and such. Honestly it's no surprise the Note 4 is on paper and for the majority of consumers a vastly superior device. I mean look at it. It has a SPen, heart rate monitor, finger print scanner, and all those Samsung bells and whistles. The sheer amount of "features" it has is a selling point regardless if people ever use them. Nobody (obviously some but not many) outside of xda cares if the battery comes out...or if they can watch YouTube and use a calculator at the same time..... .. They are too busy taking selfies with the "obviously superior camera because bigger numbers equals better". Samsung is the Apple of the Android world.

    What average consumer would buy a bland, gigantic, Nexus 6 that has none of those features? Mostly nobody. The moment you try to convince someone the Nexus 6 is superior (for the true reason it is) which is the ability to root, rom, customize, etc...... Their eyes glaze over and they suddenly realize you're a complete phone nerd and they "just want a nice phone" not something they have to work on, change, modify, tweak, etc...... They want to take it out of the box, be able to impress everyone with a gazillion features, and feel good about their purchase. This is not the Nexus 6 owner......

    But the largest audience of a Nexus device doesn't really care about anything mentioned above...... They know half of it is junk or will not be used, and they would rather not have all that crap because they were never interested in it to begin with.

    I'm not here, like yourself and this hello guy going on about how the Nexus 6 is clearly the better device. I'm saying and have been saying that they are both great devices, which are aimed at different consumers, and therefore there is no "best device" because there is no "singular consumer".

    I'm also not over in the Note 4 forums trying to post about how the Nexus 6 is clearly the better device. Because it's a personal choice. I'm better than that. So as long as you come over here to spout off negative remarks about the Nexus 6 in the Nexus 6 forums while you own a Note 4.......you will have to deal with this.

    If you had a Nexus 6 with SPen, removable battery, fingerprint scanner, heart rate monitor, and a gazillion other features like Touchwiz, in which case it was trying to directly compete with the Note 4....then yes, by all means, compare them. But they aren't. So I don't. It doesn't matter to me who thinks what about any device. I am picking the device that is going to serve me best and so should you. Nobody should be buying a device because "it's the best because they read it somewhere"

    To continue to make posts like "come on guise clearly the Note 4 is the best device evar! because so and so said so"........ Is not providing anything to the thread.
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    I was back and forth between these 2 for a while and seriously considered the note4, but for me the trade offs between the screens are ok compared to the advantage of front speakers and ease of use and eventual availability of custom roms. I had an S3 and while it was pretty good I consistently had issues with GPS and cell signal, and the AOSP roms for it never fully stabilized. My N5 has always had pretty good signal, despite what reviews said. I think too many people get hung up on written reviews and don't make decisions based on 1st hand experience. If you've used both phones side by side for at least a day and still choose the note, ok. But if you are bashing either phone without actually using it maybe just don't comment, you make it more difficult for the rest of us who haven't fully committed to one or the other.

    I wish there was some way to filter out the useless posts and have a thread with ONLY actual comparisons of these 2 phones from people who've had them both.

    I currently have both, so here is my take. (As a side note, I had the iphone 6+ for a bit too, both the note 4 and nexus 6 are better....and this is coming from a guy who spent the last year on ios, and still thinks the ipad is the best tablet).

    The note 4, when I got it, moving from the iphone 6+, was great. I was amazed by it. The screen and camera where nice, but the six plus had both a great screen and camera as well. It was the performance and functionality of android, since I last used it, that really impressed me. It wasn't as smooth looking (it was fast, just not as fluid) as the 6+...but it was still good enough. I really enjoyed my last 3-4 weeks with my note 4.

    The cons of the note 4? Well I never got great battery life with my note 4 (in fact, I am getting better battery life out of my nexus 6, and was getting better battery with the iphone 6+), I rooted it, romed it, greenifyed, etc. I made the phone better than it was out of the box...but the battery life wasn't what I expect...but good enough. Anyway, despite all my rooting and etc, I still found touchwiz to be a bit over bearing. The spen was great...but I still preferred google keep and typing my notes. The spen was useful when annotating a picture you took (my water heater went out, sent a picture to a plumber, with some spen drawn arrows, and it helped convey what I needed to). But, overall, the spen was a killer feature for me. I am an academic, a biologist, and I do a lot of note taking...and it still wasn't practical to me. Anyway...my biggest grip was touchwiz. The random lags were still present, but less than in the past. The biggest problem was the look (I used nova launcher and icon packs to help hide this). Apps didn't seem to have a common theme (so I turned to third party apps), and overall I didn't like the look. Then I saw what samsung is doing with lollipop, and was disappointed. Material design is all but absent...and that is disappointing. I understand that cyanogen mod or whatever may come to the note 4, but I shouldn't have to do that, or put up with the instability initially. I really don't have time for that kind of thing anymore, or the desire...that is part of the reason I moved to iOS for a while.

    Then came the nexus 6. People on here will say that the screen and camera are better on the note 4...and I am sure that is correct, but it isn't a noticeable difference to me. The gap is nowhere near big enough to make as big of a deal as people do on here. You can quote whatever review you want, and Ill quote another saying the opposite, and we will get nowhere. Funny how that work, huh? Anyway, the extra .3 inches on the nexus six, while maintaining a form factor similar to the note 4 in size, is outstanding. I have also got some great pictures with the camera, and no bad pictures to speak of. The build quality is great and the phone looks better in my opinion.

    OVERALL, the phones are on par with each other hardware wise. You get a slightly better screen and camera with the note 4. You get a better form factor, look (subjective I know), and front facing speakers with the nexus 6. Pretty much a draw, so I wouldn't let that decide it for you.

    The real killer feature on the nexus 6 is the software. Until you use pure lollipop on the nexus 6 (or nexus 5, moto x, etc; i guess), you can't just dismiss this. It is absolutely beautiful, fast, smooth, and fluid. Everything goes together and it is really just stunning. Honestly, this is the FIRST phone that I can honestly say tops the iphones in software; in terms of presentation and design. Take that, and combine it with the features on android that we have always loved, and you have the best user experience in the mobile ecosystem, in my opinion.

    I have a problem switching phones, but I think that is coming to a stop. iOS is buggy and apple is overcharging for phones that have gimped specs (1gb of ram, and the six plus stutters often, due to scaling and the screen resolution). Other android phones are great, but I don't like the slower updates and aftermarket skins (moto aside). The nexus 6 has everything I need, and I don't see that changing. Plus, if you are dying to have some random feature found on another android phone, chances are it will pop up in the forum of an app in the play store.

    Overall, I pick the nexus 6 (unless something goes horribly wrong in the next few days), and will be putting my note 4 up for sale soon.

    This is solely my opinion, and these are arguably the best two phones on the market, so you can't go wrong. I hope this sheds some insight.
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    So after some more reports begging for this thread to be closed, I have decided it's time to put this horse to rest as it's been beaten enough.

    What probably could have been a useful thread in the beginning, has not turned into nothing more than several people who just want to get the last word in. But after the most recent cleaning, it still just keeps going on with the same players, same topic.

    Thread Closed
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    You guys should head on over to the Note 4 forum if you want the straight poop. It has all the same stuff we have here about the battery being disappointing (check their battery thread, anything from 3 hours SOT *gasp!* to 6.5hrs), and the software is laggy, and blah blah blah, etc... Interestingly though, I didn't really see any Nexus fanboys floating around their forum trying to tell the Samsung faithful how their phone is an awful choice. Hmmmmmmmm.....

    Anyway, my point is that for every item you put in the plus column about the Note, there is probably someone over in the Note forum that has a complaint about it. Which is to say that it's not much different than here.