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altimax98 said:
Im not one to usually speak out against mods, but for the love of everything sane can we please have this thread shutdown.

Pages and pages of Regime and Pierre arguing like little children, this thread offers nothing to the original discussion except we have all realized that each camp has children with nothing better to do than argue which $700 phone is better on an internet forum.

News flash.. Both phones are excellent and you really arent making a wrong choice in either, the final decision depends on how YOU feel, not someone else..

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Note 4 users. Except that fact that no one here but you care for your device. You will not change any minds. You do nothing but act a fool and degrade Samsung's community by acting like you own the world. Go circle jerk somewhere else.

Nexus users. Just ignore them. This has become a "last word" flame thread. By responding you do nothing but give them more fuel.

Mods. This thread serves ZERO purpose now. All that is being said has already been discussed and is only used now as flame bait. I vote yet again to lock. People can come back and read through if they want but this thread needs to cease growth. It's embarrassing imo to our community as a whole watching both sides act like children.
 
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About 1000 posts ago I said something very similar. This could have been a useful thread for people undecided but it long ago deviated from that path.
 
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Wow... Someone can't deal with the truth. The fanboyism is strong in this one

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Anyways the gentlemen still liked his nexus. Just thought my note was much cooler with all the features. Which falls in line with what everyone is saying.
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This whole thread reminds me of this movie

http://youtu.be/YfLlFwnPkEg

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regime2008 said:
Well you respond to just about everything I post, so I don't see how you passed the post that I've started at least 5 times in here, about buying a note 4 since the 64gb nexus was on back order for a month... I never bought the phone for gaming, which I also started. I bought it for richer audio, and web browsing/multimedia.

Let me ask you this, would a note 4 that is running AOSP be considered a phablet? Since alotta you guys have mentioned that to get rid of the lag? Because it wouldn't have all those "phablet features" and would pretty much be a smaller nexus... From my understanding, a phablet is a device that is sized between a phone and tablet. Most tablets AND most phones do not have a stylus, or multiwindow, or any other features of the sort, so where do you come up with "a nexus isn't a phablet" theory from?
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A phablet is not just a big phone but has some nice (android) tablet features (and yeah like multitasking) as well, like most android tablets have. The nexus has none, therefore the name smartphone suits it better, its more a iphone 6 plus on android to me except it can be rooted, great advantage. I never said that flashing a aosp is the way to stop lag or so, i dont have lag, i did say flashing a aosp could have a more pure android experience stil having the better camera, better screen, could expand memory, changing battery etc etc..
 
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A lot of you seem to forget that the Nexus line is a reference device used to showcase newer Android iterations.
It's an open platform to showcase and allow devs to tinker around.

There is a reason why Nexus devices have the largest developer communities.

To me the Nexus is better. To you it's not. Guess what.

We are BOTH right. Because in our own respective tastes, each phone suits the other better.

DEAL WITH IT
 
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TonyM77 said:
A phablet is not just a big phone but has some nice (android) tablet features (and yeah like multitasking) as well, like most android tablets have. The nexus has none, therefore the name smartphone suits it better, its more a iphone 6 plus on android to me except it can be rooted, great advantage. I never said that flashing a aosp is the way to stop lag or so, i dont have lag, i did say flashing a aosp could have a more pure android experience stil having the better camera, better screen, could expand memory, changing battery etc etc..
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So a note 4 with aosp is NOT a phablet. Guess only a few people like you have that opinion on what a phablet is.
What other tablets have multiwindow if you don't mind asking?
 
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Peylix said:
A lot of you seem to forget that the Nexus line is a reference device used to showcase newer Android iterations.
It's an open platform to showcase and allow devs to tinker around.

There is a reason why Nexus devices have the largest developer communities.

To me the Nexus is better. To you it's not. Guess what.

We are BOTH right. Because in our own respective tastes, each phone suits the other better.

DEAL WITH IT
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The reason is twofold.
1. Less resistance for developers, an open slate of opportunities.
2.. More need.. Vanilla android is just that... Vanilla

Some like vanilla and only vanilla but Baskin Robbins has a full 31 flavors to choose from!
 
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windstrings said:
The reason is twofold.
1. Less resistance for developers, an open slate of opportunities.
2.. More need.. Vanilla android is just that... Vanilla

Some like vanilla and only vanilla but Baskin Robbins has a full 31 flavors to choose from!
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You start as Vanilla. But can add more flavors as you go w/o losing flavors like you would on a Note for instance.

I could go as far to say we can add more useful features that actually work than what you can after tearing apart Touchwhiz to do the same on your end. But that's the point of Vanilla. To make it your own. Again, why the dev community is largest for Nexus devices is directly related to this.

But this goes back to my original point. Some features are more useful to some. While not so to others. So in reality. Both are better phones in regards to said person. Arguing other wise is like trying to prove your OPINION to be the gospel of God. You know. Like going door to door telling others that their religion sucks compared to yours. In tech terms. Fanboyism.

So for you to tell me that the Note is a better phone for ME is naive and quite frankly. Stupid. Same goes for if I were to tell you the Nexus is better for YOU.
Everyone who is still making this argument of which phone is better period need to grow the **** up and come back to reality. The world does not work based on your opinion alone.

This is why we have a wide variety of Android devices. Each one caters to a different crowd and is only better to YOU in YOUR OWN OPINION.

Quit arguing like your opinion speaks for the entire community. News flash. It doesn't.
 
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I think I get what you're saying.. You are free to "make" all the flavors and still keep vanilla, right?

But remember when you buy this product, you're paying for hardware and software / development to get it there..

You're NOT paying for work yet to be done by you.. So Is it overpriced? That depends on whether you're an accomplished culinary guy that likes a clean kitchen...... or whether you feel you've already paid for SOMEONE ELSE to do the cooking.. So you just get to eat!

I too love a large screen and every person determines where the point of diminishing returns start based on use, how long your fingers are, how you carry it, and how much you appreciate larger "everything" because it's so hard to see tiny, and what the real tradeoff is for (.26") more screen.

Reality is, there are so many preferences of TVs, computers, monitors, and basically anything from cars to castle's none of us would agree regardless of our power to choose.

It's good to appreciate the strengths of both... And both will be outdated soon and this thread will start over in another match ☺
 
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Peylix said:
You start as Vanilla. But can add more flavors as you go w/o losing flavors like you would on a Note for instance.

I could go as far to say we can add more useful features that actually work than what you can after tearing apart Touchwhiz to do the same on your end. But that's the point of Vanilla. To make it your own. Again, why the dev community is largest for Nexus devices is directly related to this.

But this goes back to my original point. Some features are more useful to some. While not so to others. So in reality. Both are better phones in regards to said person. Arguing other wise is like trying to prove your OPINION to be the gospel of God. You know. Like going door to door telling others that their religion sucks compared to yours. In tech terms. Fanboyism.

So for you to tell me that the Note is a better phone for ME is naive and quite frankly. Stupid. Same goes for if I were to tell you the Nexus is better for YOU.
Everyone who is still making this argument of which phone is better period need to grow the **** up and come back to reality. The world does not work based on your opinion alone.

This is why we have a wide variety of Android devices. Each one caters to a different crowd and is only better to YOU in YOUR OWN OPINION.

Quit arguing like your opinion speaks for the entire community. News flash. It doesn't.
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The nexus community is largest because it is slated as a developers phone. By default your observation is correct. Everyone knows that. Gets a big DUH! For that statement. I've owned them all and would have a 6 if it weren't for the total lackluster roll out of this device. I'll pick one up the next few months probably. Still have all the stuff I ordered. The phone is awesome. So is the note 4. Abysmal lag and gimmick software are over abused terms here. With my note, I can run a smoking fast aosp or cm rom, BUT, I can also run a custom trimmed down Knox free tw rom. Nexus cant do that. And before you ask who would want to run anything but vanilla on a nexus, go back to all the other nexus threads and look at the failed ports of sense and tw that users WANT so they can try out something different. This thread isn't even worth debating till note 4 gets lollipop. A bunch of children in here. Note 4 threads have a bunch of complaints on the device, but so does the nexus threads. 90 percent are probably user error, taking shortcuts, and not doing a good wipe with Charmin. Grow up people. Every fact stated is just some other persons opinion. Both phones are fantastic.

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Yeah, so I tried both phones. The Note 4 feels good for a couple days until you get sick of TW and the lag. The Nexus 6 is too big.

Switched to the Moto X 2014. It's perfect.
 
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So after some more reports begging for this thread to be closed, I have decided it's time to put this horse to rest as it's been beaten enough.

What probably could have been a useful thread in the beginning, has not turned into nothing more than several people who just want to get the last word in. But after the most recent cleaning, it still just keeps going on with the same players, same topic.

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    Stock Android > TouchWiz

    That was easy

    Although to be fair, the Note 4 probably has a much better camera. But TouchWiz.. I'll stick with the Nexus 6.
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    F4M0U569 said:
    Not you again
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    People have been trying to tell you guys that these are two very different devices that are aimed squarely at two different audiences. For the vast majority of people, a phone such as the Note 4 is NOT going to appeal to those who would even care about a Nexus 6. Same as a Nexus 6 isn't going to appeal to MOST people who would like a Note 4.

    The average consumer (this means nobody here) is either gonna go for all the Samsung features and use it as it comes out of the box, or they aren't. They aren't going to stand around and compare screens and cameras and such. Honestly it's no surprise the Note 4 is on paper and for the majority of consumers a vastly superior device. I mean look at it. It has a SPen, heart rate monitor, finger print scanner, and all those Samsung bells and whistles. The sheer amount of "features" it has is a selling point regardless if people ever use them. Nobody (obviously some but not many) outside of xda cares if the battery comes out...or if they can watch YouTube and use a calculator at the same time..... .. They are too busy taking selfies with the "obviously superior camera because bigger numbers equals better". Samsung is the Apple of the Android world.

    What average consumer would buy a bland, gigantic, Nexus 6 that has none of those features? Mostly nobody. The moment you try to convince someone the Nexus 6 is superior (for the true reason it is) which is the ability to root, rom, customize, etc...... Their eyes glaze over and they suddenly realize you're a complete phone nerd and they "just want a nice phone" not something they have to work on, change, modify, tweak, etc...... They want to take it out of the box, be able to impress everyone with a gazillion features, and feel good about their purchase. This is not the Nexus 6 owner......

    But the largest audience of a Nexus device doesn't really care about anything mentioned above...... They know half of it is junk or will not be used, and they would rather not have all that crap because they were never interested in it to begin with.

    I'm not here, like yourself and this hello guy going on about how the Nexus 6 is clearly the better device. I'm saying and have been saying that they are both great devices, which are aimed at different consumers, and therefore there is no "best device" because there is no "singular consumer".

    I'm also not over in the Note 4 forums trying to post about how the Nexus 6 is clearly the better device. Because it's a personal choice. I'm better than that. So as long as you come over here to spout off negative remarks about the Nexus 6 in the Nexus 6 forums while you own a Note 4.......you will have to deal with this.

    If you had a Nexus 6 with SPen, removable battery, fingerprint scanner, heart rate monitor, and a gazillion other features like Touchwiz, in which case it was trying to directly compete with the Note 4....then yes, by all means, compare them. But they aren't. So I don't. It doesn't matter to me who thinks what about any device. I am picking the device that is going to serve me best and so should you. Nobody should be buying a device because "it's the best because they read it somewhere"

    To continue to make posts like "come on guise clearly the Note 4 is the best device evar! because so and so said so"........ Is not providing anything to the thread.
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    I was back and forth between these 2 for a while and seriously considered the note4, but for me the trade offs between the screens are ok compared to the advantage of front speakers and ease of use and eventual availability of custom roms. I had an S3 and while it was pretty good I consistently had issues with GPS and cell signal, and the AOSP roms for it never fully stabilized. My N5 has always had pretty good signal, despite what reviews said. I think too many people get hung up on written reviews and don't make decisions based on 1st hand experience. If you've used both phones side by side for at least a day and still choose the note, ok. But if you are bashing either phone without actually using it maybe just don't comment, you make it more difficult for the rest of us who haven't fully committed to one or the other.

    I wish there was some way to filter out the useless posts and have a thread with ONLY actual comparisons of these 2 phones from people who've had them both.
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    I currently have both, so here is my take. (As a side note, I had the iphone 6+ for a bit too, both the note 4 and nexus 6 are better....and this is coming from a guy who spent the last year on ios, and still thinks the ipad is the best tablet).

    The note 4, when I got it, moving from the iphone 6+, was great. I was amazed by it. The screen and camera where nice, but the six plus had both a great screen and camera as well. It was the performance and functionality of android, since I last used it, that really impressed me. It wasn't as smooth looking (it was fast, just not as fluid) as the 6+...but it was still good enough. I really enjoyed my last 3-4 weeks with my note 4.

    The cons of the note 4? Well I never got great battery life with my note 4 (in fact, I am getting better battery life out of my nexus 6, and was getting better battery with the iphone 6+), I rooted it, romed it, greenifyed, etc. I made the phone better than it was out of the box...but the battery life wasn't what I expect...but good enough. Anyway, despite all my rooting and etc, I still found touchwiz to be a bit over bearing. The spen was great...but I still preferred google keep and typing my notes. The spen was useful when annotating a picture you took (my water heater went out, sent a picture to a plumber, with some spen drawn arrows, and it helped convey what I needed to). But, overall, the spen was a killer feature for me. I am an academic, a biologist, and I do a lot of note taking...and it still wasn't practical to me. Anyway...my biggest grip was touchwiz. The random lags were still present, but less than in the past. The biggest problem was the look (I used nova launcher and icon packs to help hide this). Apps didn't seem to have a common theme (so I turned to third party apps), and overall I didn't like the look. Then I saw what samsung is doing with lollipop, and was disappointed. Material design is all but absent...and that is disappointing. I understand that cyanogen mod or whatever may come to the note 4, but I shouldn't have to do that, or put up with the instability initially. I really don't have time for that kind of thing anymore, or the desire...that is part of the reason I moved to iOS for a while.

    Then came the nexus 6. People on here will say that the screen and camera are better on the note 4...and I am sure that is correct, but it isn't a noticeable difference to me. The gap is nowhere near big enough to make as big of a deal as people do on here. You can quote whatever review you want, and Ill quote another saying the opposite, and we will get nowhere. Funny how that work, huh? Anyway, the extra .3 inches on the nexus six, while maintaining a form factor similar to the note 4 in size, is outstanding. I have also got some great pictures with the camera, and no bad pictures to speak of. The build quality is great and the phone looks better in my opinion.

    OVERALL, the phones are on par with each other hardware wise. You get a slightly better screen and camera with the note 4. You get a better form factor, look (subjective I know), and front facing speakers with the nexus 6. Pretty much a draw, so I wouldn't let that decide it for you.

    The real killer feature on the nexus 6 is the software. Until you use pure lollipop on the nexus 6 (or nexus 5, moto x, etc; i guess), you can't just dismiss this. It is absolutely beautiful, fast, smooth, and fluid. Everything goes together and it is really just stunning. Honestly, this is the FIRST phone that I can honestly say tops the iphones in software; in terms of presentation and design. Take that, and combine it with the features on android that we have always loved, and you have the best user experience in the mobile ecosystem, in my opinion.

    I have a problem switching phones, but I think that is coming to a stop. iOS is buggy and apple is overcharging for phones that have gimped specs (1gb of ram, and the six plus stutters often, due to scaling and the screen resolution). Other android phones are great, but I don't like the slower updates and aftermarket skins (moto aside). The nexus 6 has everything I need, and I don't see that changing. Plus, if you are dying to have some random feature found on another android phone, chances are it will pop up in the forum of an app in the play store.

    Overall, I pick the nexus 6 (unless something goes horribly wrong in the next few days), and will be putting my note 4 up for sale soon.

    This is solely my opinion, and these are arguably the best two phones on the market, so you can't go wrong. I hope this sheds some insight.
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    So after some more reports begging for this thread to be closed, I have decided it's time to put this horse to rest as it's been beaten enough.

    What probably could have been a useful thread in the beginning, has not turned into nothing more than several people who just want to get the last word in. But after the most recent cleaning, it still just keeps going on with the same players, same topic.

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    You guys should head on over to the Note 4 forum if you want the straight poop. It has all the same stuff we have here about the battery being disappointing (check their battery thread, anything from 3 hours SOT *gasp!* to 6.5hrs), and the software is laggy, and blah blah blah, etc... Interestingly though, I didn't really see any Nexus fanboys floating around their forum trying to tell the Samsung faithful how their phone is an awful choice. Hmmmmmmmm.....

    Anyway, my point is that for every item you put in the plus column about the Note, there is probably someone over in the Note forum that has a complaint about it. Which is to say that it's not much different than here.
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