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I was just wondering which partition the new SSD (replacement) to be formatted before copying the contents as described?
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Just wanted to mention that the original HDD is crashed and cant access anything in it. Just shows a logical drive no partition information etc.

The new one i have partitioned to ext4 and tried but did not work so i supposed there must be different partition. The copying process went well though.
 
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I found now all the partitions? I wonder if I need to create all this partitions or will it be managed by it self? As i wrote earlier it did not work for me despite i did create a ext4 partition of a full HDD.
 
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Hi, I have problem, my HDD on shield is dying, pretty often shield turn on but doesn't respond (2015 pro 500gb) so I wanted to swap hard drive, bought Samsung Evo 870 500 GB.
Problem is that through usb to SATA cable and through SSD enclosure my windows 10 laptop doesn't see shield hard drive, checked in system and in cloning apps, nothing.
I was initializing SSD and now is visible.
Downloaded adb and recovery os for shield, but don't have usb a to usb a cable.
What I can do
 
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neomesjasz said:
Hi, I have problem, my HDD on shield is dying, pretty often shield turn on but doesn't respond (2015 pro 500gb) so I wanted to swap hard drive, bought Samsung Evo 870 500 GB.
Problem is that through usb to SATA cable and through SSD enclosure my windows 10 laptop doesn't see shield hard drive, checked in system and in cloning apps, nothing.
I was initializing SSD and now is visible.
Downloaded adb and recovery os for shield, but don't have usb a to usb a cable.
What I can do
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Have you tried "HDD Raw Copy Tool"?
https://hddguru.com/software/HDD-Raw-Copy-Tool/

Is the shield HDD visible in Windows "Disk Management" (found in Win+X menu/ right click start menu button).
You won't see any partitions in Windows, because Shield uses a file system Windows can't recognize. So be very careful so you won't overwrite/ change anything on the Shield HDD from Windows.

I ended up using following dual bay SATA docking station and duplicator from Orico:
https://www.orico.cc/us/product/detail/3551.html

But "HDD Raw Copy Tool" should work too.
 
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By the way, I would like to describe my adventures with replacing the old disk to SSD.
For several weeks I have been watching a large lag that prevents normal operation ....
( nvidia shield pro 2015 version).
I decided to change the old disk to the new SSD Evo 870 -500 GB. I cloned the disk with HDDGURU Raw Copy Too but Shield was not booted. I cloned a few times and got nothing I also tried Tilator solutions without success.
I decided to change my approach to the problem:
1.Reset and return to factory settings.
2.Copy the old drive to an img file using WinHex.
3. Write image using HDDGURU Raw Copy program.
Nvidia Shield has started with the new heart -success
 
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neomesjasz

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Ok, accidentally I formatted in windows my old shield HDD, now I have 2 empty drives and shield without memory. Old shield HDD was discoverable only on different laptop but could not clone cause of error ( disk is dying)
So could anyone explain step by step how to put recovery or clone files to SSD and what kind of Linux etc unfortunately I am noob
 
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neomesjasz

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Ok, I try to load files on SSD, after hours to understand commands on Ubuntu, terminals says that files are copied on disk (with DD) but disk is empty, now space taken. SSD is in read only state, was using many commands to change for write permissions but, disk is always read only, formatted in Linux few times, tried change in options and commands but no luck, any tips?
 
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i understand we can upgrade the HDD , and use up to a MAX 2TB SSD.

has anyone tried using anything larger>?

would it be possible to use a 8TB SSD , partition the first 2TB for the SHIELD, and then use the remains, 6TB as secondary storage ? ( would the kernel even see this as storage? )

would it be possible to use a larger drive and have a DUAL BOOT SHIELD TV ? ( load lineage, stock firmware, etc? )
 
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Hello folks, In the process of trying to revive a 2015 Shield Pro with no original HDD to clone. I followed the process as described at the start of the thread using a 500gb HDD but before the end binary is copied the HDD seems to run out of space. I'm not sure of what format I should use, First I tried ext4 which after formatting on linux mint had approx 465gb available then tried NTFS but the dd process ends the same way with the no space left on drive message. Am I right in assuming that I have to alter the block number for the end.bin and if so what is the starting reference for the calculation? I'd very appreciate any advice on where I'm going wrong.
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BTW kudos to all who contributed in solving the problem initially. Great work all.
 
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tonsil1 said:
By the way, I would like to describe my adventures with replacing the old disk to SSD.
For several weeks I have been watching a large lag that prevents normal operation ....
( nvidia shield pro 2015 version).
I decided to change the old disk to the new SSD Evo 870 -500 GB. I cloned the disk with HDDGURU Raw Copy Too but Shield was not booted. I cloned a few times and got nothing I also tried Tilator solutions without success.
I decided to change my approach to the problem:
1.Reset and return to factory settings.
2.Copy the old drive to an img file using WinHex.
3. Write image using HDDGURU Raw Copy program.
Nvidia Shield has started with the new heart -success
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Do you still have the img
tonsil1 said:
By the way, I would like to describe my adventures with replacing the old disk to SSD.
For several weeks I have been watching a large lag that prevents normal operation ....
( nvidia shield pro 2015 version).
I decided to change the old disk to the new SSD Evo 870 -500 GB. I cloned the disk with HDDGURU Raw Copy Too but Shield was not booted. I cloned a few times and got nothing I also tried Tilator solutions without success.
I decided to change my approach to the problem:
1.Reset and return to factory settings.
2.Copy the old drive to an img file using WinHex.
3. Write image using HDDGURU Raw Copy program.
Nvidia Shield has started with the new heart -success
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Do you still have IMG file? Can you please send me a link to download. I have a Similar situation but my SSHD died and I can’t clone it. Thanks
 
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o-l-a-v said:
@earickb @Rayrod21

Have you seen this thread?

https://xdaforums.com/t/3440195/

Edit: Also, the torrent for the image, found in post #23, still works. Tried with qBitTorrent just now. See:

https://xdaforums.com/t/nvidia-shield-tv-ssd-done.3402580/page-2#post-67426622
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Indeed. Can’t find a solution to my problem. I successfully transfer the files as instructed using Ubuntu 20.04. Start.bin 1892+1 in and out and 7.9 GB, 7.4 Gib copied 66.1268 s. End 198538 +0 in and out 101651456 bytes. All looks perfect. Put the ssd on my disc and turns on. Waited 15 min disconec then try to power on but nothing shows on hdmi. Hdmi is detected on Tv. I plug micro usb on shield and when I look at devices in windows I see APX device. Im not sure if ribbon cable got damage the first time I disconnected it.
 

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Rayrod21 said:
Indeed. Can’t find a solution to my problem. I successfully transfer the files as instructed using Ubuntu 20.04. Start.bin 1892+1 in and out and 7.9 GB, 7.4 Gib copied 66.1268 s. End 198538 +0 in and out 101651456 bytes. All looks perfect. Put the ssd on my disc and turns on. Waited 15 min disconec then try to power on but nothing shows on hdmi. Hdmi is detected on Tv. I plug micro usb on shield and when I look at devices in windows I see APX device. Im not sure if ribbon cable got damage the first time I disconnected it.
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I've tried everything I could think of and read but nothing for my as well, hopefully someone make a video
 
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Rayrod21 said:
Indeed. Can’t find a solution to my problem. I successfully transfer the files as instructed using Ubuntu 20.04. Start.bin 1892+1 in and out and 7.9 GB, 7.4 Gib copied 66.1268 s. End 198538 +0 in and out 101651456 bytes. All looks perfect. Put the ssd on my disc and turns on. Waited 15 min disconec then try to power on but nothing shows on hdmi. Hdmi is detected on Tv. I plug micro usb on shield and when I look at devices in windows I see APX device. Im not sure if ribbon cable got damage the first time I disconnected it.
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Update:
Finally succeeded:
SSD 500Gb PNY model CS900 2.5 Sata 6Gb/s
Stuff that didn’t work on NSATV Pro 2015:
1) SSD no format/out of box
2) SSD NTFS
3) SSD ext4
In all 3 cases the result was APX mode. Even with 100% file transfer.

What worked?
1) SSD FAT32 format then copy files.
2) Power Shield left it for 30min. Nothing
3) Power shield stayed on boot after nvidia logo
4) Power shield finally booted

The bad: like many others I need to flash an image in order to get out of google sign in problem and after so many attempts handling the ribbon cable now I’m getting intermittent hdmi signal. Will need a new cable in order to finish.
 
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    Tilator
    It's done. I repleced original SSHD with SAmsung SSD.

    If someone else is interested in how to do this I'll help.

    *******************************************************

    Some users and moderator has asked me to add mote information what this is about.
    Here is the very same text I have done for the whole package to do HDD/SSD preparation to use it as an internal Nvidia Shield TV Pro disk:

    This is a guide to change Nvidia Shield TV Pro internal SSHD to SSD (or other 500GB drive).

    This will only tell how to prepare SSD for this Nvidia Shield TV PRO 500GB. You have to also know how to open the device, how to take old disk out and how to put new to replace it. You also need a Linux computer with free SATA port to connect your drive to for flashing it. However there are not any screws to hold the drive and it has a common SATA connection.

    Preparation takes two binary files to be put on the new drive. I have only done this for Samsung EVO 850 500GB drive (type MZ-75E500B/EU). I suppose this works with other similar drives too, but I can not guarantee it.

    Here is what you need to do:

    1. unzip start.zip and put binary file start.bin in the beginning of your SSD drive. I use Linux command DD to do this. If your drive is sdX the command will be something like this:

    dd if=start.bin of=/dev/sdX bs=4M

    2. unzip end_976574630.zip and put binary file end_976574630.bin to a proper place of the same disk. Again with DD it would be something like this:

    dd if=end_976574630.bin of=/dev/sdX seek=976574630

    3. put the SSD drive in your Nvidia Shield TV PRO and boot it up. Let it run about 15 minutes. It will not boot until you now cold boot it second time.

    It takes a minute or two to boot this time and the device will come up as expected.

    Enjoy your new Nvidia Shield TV PRO SSD !!!!

    B.T.W The same procedure works with a normal 500GB HDD too in case you would like to use this type disk. So - this also works as an emergency backup in case the original drive will become defective.

    Edit 2: System does not allow attaching files while editing a post. So - here you have a direct link to the message where file is as an attachment.

    http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67426622&postcount=23
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    Code: 
    [B][I][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead HDDs, animals 
activist campaigns, or any H/W damage caused by you following these
directions. YOU are choosing to make these modificiations, and
you, yourself take responsibility for doing these modifications
to your device.
You can do serious H/W damage to your SATV or even your computer
by doing any of this. So, you have been warned! [/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/B]

    compyy said:
    Great, can someone make a small tutorial step by step with this new method, I am new dont want to brick my device.
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    First of all, you should pay your thanks to @Luxferro for mapping out the entire partition array, and building the chart that does all the calculations for using another disk size.
    He also proved that it was indeed possible to modify your GPT header to another sized drive.
    None of this would have been possible, if it was not for him.

    Also thanks to @Tilator for initiating this thread, and proving it was possible to swap your HDD for something else.

    Well, to begin with you should have a working linux environment set up.
    You should have a hex editor with CRC32 calculating capabilities. I recommend HxD:
    https://mh-nexus.de/en/downloads.php?product=HxD
    Yes, that is for Windows, I use Linux for all the writing/dumping, but I prefer my Windows hex editor.

    Then you can go open up the SATV by prying off the bottom of the casing. I managed to do this with my fingernails. A small plastic pry tool can be used as well.
    088cdebe48.png

    Then you remove the 2 wire sets from the plugs to give more working room. There is 2 sets of tape holding the wires and the HDD in place as well.
    There is (on mine at least) just one screw with a small bracket holding the HDD in place, you will need a T6 driver to remove it.
    Gently lift the black latch/lock on the connector to the secondary board, then the FCC connector will be easily out.
    Then it is just a matter of gently loosening the adhesive on the FCC strip from the HDD and pull out the SATA connector.

    With the HDD out, you will have to connect it to your Linux setup somehow. I used an enclosure with a USB3 connection.
    With the HDD recognized in the computer, the time has now come to clone you HDD.
    You could as well use the bin files Tilator has provided, but if you want your own genuine Netflix ESN, you should use your own.

    In a terminal window you start by listing the drives:

    Code: 
    sudo -s
fdisk -l

    This is to determine which drive you are working with. Remember that the DD command does't care which drive you specify, it will destroy your main drive if you ask it to.
    The you continue by dumping the first 6899870 blocks of data to a bin file:

    Code: 
    dd if=/dev/sd[B]X[/B] of=firstpart.bin count=6899870

    This will give you a raw image file of all the partitions up until the /data partition which is better left out (it will come later).
    Then continue by dumping the last 5120 bytes of data which contains the partition array and the GPT header:

    Code: 
    dd if=/dev/sd[B]X[/B] bs=512 skip= 976773158 of=lastpart.bin

    You can now disconnect your HDD. These 2 files also counts as a backup of your SATV.
    Now connect your new SSD in the enclosure.
    You can easily start by writing the firstpart.bin:

    Code: 
    dd if=firstpart.bin of=/dev/sd[B]X[/B]

    In your linux terminal load up the block count (called sectors in linux language) of the new drive:

    Code: 
    fdisk -l

    A 2 TB disk should have a total block count of 3907029168, but a smaller disk would have a smaller block count, so use fdisk -l to determine this.
    The lastpart.bin must be edited before we can write it on the new disk.
    So use the spreadsheet provided by @Luxferro in this post:
    http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67996717&postcount=189
    In the column at the buttom right that says disk size, you change the value to match you new disk. In this example for the 2TB it should be 2000398934016 (bytes). This value should be taken from fdisk -l as well.
    Now it gets a little hairy!

    In the spreadsheet you should start with the buttom value marked out in purple under the row called "Last LBA". This should be E8E0888E:

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    Open up lastpart.bin in HxD and navigate to offset 00000FA8. There you should find the 4 bytes 0E 60 38 3A illustrated in this picture:
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    This value is in a format called reverse byte ordering, so to put in your new calculated value, you will have to arrange it like this: 8E 88 E0 E8. Input that value instead of the bytes already there like this picture:

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    While we are in this particular position in the lastpart.bin we might as well do the CRC32 of the partition array.
    Now make a selection containing the 64 bytes or 4 empty lines underneath the line having UDA written in ASCII, and all the way to the top of the file, offset 00000000 to 00000FF0 like in this picture:

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    In the drop-down menu, choose Analyzis->Checksums and generate a CRC-32 checksum (Not checksum-32).
    It will come up in the buttom screen of HxD, and should read 6B CF E5 7D

    Navigate to the buttom of the file which contains the GPT header. It should start with an ANSI text reading "EFI PART".
    In offset 00001258 you should find the value of the original CRC-32 value containing the bytes 0E 02 C5 DC.
    Replace this, again reversing the bytes from your newly calculated CRC-32 value like this: 7D E5 CF 6B:

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    Now we are actually almost finished! In the spreadsheet all the way to the right, you will find 4 hexadecimal values marked in purple.
    First is the position of the GPT header, and the second is the position of the backup GPT header. Since there is only 1 on the SATV, these values are both the same.
    Write them into the GPT header on offset 00001218, and 00001220, again reversing the bytes like illustrated in the picture:

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    Same goes for offset 00001230, Last Usable LBA, and offset 00001248, Starting LBA of array of partition entries.

    This brings us to the last thing on the table, the CRC32 of the GPT header itself.
    The CRC is located on offset 00001210 and should have the bytes 46 C9 88 78 already there.
    Just write 00 00 00 00 to blank them out:

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    Now make a selection of the GPT header containing the beginning of the header, and to the last written byte before all the zeroes:

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    In the drop-down menu, choose Analyzis->Checksums and generate a CRC-32 checksum (Not checksum-32).
    It will come up in the buttom screen of HxD, and should read 46 9F 24 38
    Again, write it instead of the 4 bytes with zeroes reversed like this:

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    This completes the matter, now just save your work in HxD and write it to the end of your drive.
    To do this we need the total block count from the HDD that you fetched in the beginning of the guide from the fdisk -l output, should be 3907029168
    The lastpart.bin is 5120 bytes which is the same as 10 blocks of 512 byte length.
    So, 3907029168 minus 10 is 3907029158 and put into your DD like this:

    Code: 
    dd if=lastpart.bin of=/dev/sda[B]X[/B] bs=512 seek=[B]3907029158[/B]

    Now at last, put in your new disk in the SATV and assemble everything back together.
    If it doesn't boot in the first try, you could try another cold boot (give it 15 min.).
    If that won't do it, you might have to wipe the DATA partition from the fastboot menu.
    To cold boot into fastboot, follow this (taken from "http://developer.download.nvidia.com/mobile/shield/ROM/SHIELD_ATV/OTA-1.1/HowTo-Flash-Recovery-Image.txt"):

    Code: 
    HW method:
- Disconnect power cable
- Insert USB OTG cable and make sure to connect other end to a host PC
- Connect power cable to SHIELD
- Quickly start pressing power button for ~3 seconds
- Do not hold the button and connect power supply afterwards
- HDMI TV should be always connected to SHIELD

    And format the /DATA partition from fastboot like this:

    Code: 
    fastboot format FS:EXT4 /data

    Or do a fastboot oem unlock of the SATV.

    Hopefully you will now have a SATV with an upgraded SSD/HDD! :D
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    Luxferro
    Here's a link to my spreadsheet. You only need to enter in the bytes of the HD (cell colored red), and all the variables are calculated (minus the CRC32's), and shown in cells colored purple: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QysvIlVcuxYUroMpY7q0_VeIqOLEgJiZjnXNU1T_Ilw/edit?usp=sharing

    There's a lot of other info on it, that doesn't have much to do with the calculations. Just general info, ect.

    edit: Please don't request access for edit privileges. If I opened it up for everyone to edit, all the formulas could easily be ruined. The best thing to do for those that want to use the spreadsheet is to make a copy to your own google drive, this way you can edit it, and modify it however you want.
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    bradleyw801
    bradleyw801
    For anyone interested, I was able to use an external hard drive duplicator. (this one https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Exte...=1492809151&sr=8-3&keywords=hard+drive+cloner)

    I cloned it to a 500gb Samsung Evo 850 SSD. It worked perfectly. Things that may be relevant:

    The SSD was brand new, I had never formatted it.
    My device was unlocked, with stock recovery, no TWRP or anything.
    The two drives were the exact same size.
    I did nothing at all to the original SSHD after removal, never plugged it into anything but the cloner.
    I didn't use a computer of any kind for anything.​

    After cloning, I turned my device on, and it booted up immediately! In fact, this first boot illustrated how much faster it boots than before. I immediately tested Netflix, Amazon Video, and Hulu, and all were in tact and working exactly as before. Aside from the usual "it feels much snappier", which could be placebo, there are some clear improvements in speed. I notice dramatic improvements in boot up time, loading movies that are stored locally is faster with no pause at all, (even large files) and I have seen a slight, (but still measurable) improvement in frame rate with dolphin emulator (and less crashes). Apps and games that would crash seem more stable, and native apps that had long load times load faster.

    In addition to all that, I am glad I did this because I have a first generation pro, and I never knew how long the spinning disk would last. It's nice to know if something ever goes wrong with this drive, I have an image and I can restore and replace with a simple clone.

    I learned a few things with removing the drive, and put together a YouTube Video. Make sure to turn on CC, so you can read my advice since I removed the audio. Here are some photos, and a link to the video. https://youtu.be/LLPyPAgnaFA
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    Tilator
    hallydamaster said:
    @Tilator

    Look, if you care to share your steps I'll help you find a way to clone it to a smaller SSD? It must be possible to somehow shrink the data partition mounted as sdcard.
    If it can be shrunk to ~250 GB it could possibly be cloned to a smaller drive as well.

    Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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    It's not that simple. I did try different things to make it smaller for a 320GB drive I have here, but it did not work. Result with a bigger 1TB drive was the same.

    The reason why I don't tell you how it's done is not that I would not like to tell. It's because it was quite complicated.

    You all should do something else now and that's where I can give you some advice. Take a look at the Shield original HD with something like Photorec (needs Linux and knowledge what to do). The disk has GPT partitionin system and more than dozen EXT4 partitions. The very beginning of the file system has been messed up some way. That's why Linux or any other OS does not find file system. With Photorec you can restore partition information as it should be and then you have access to the contents.

    But - after fixing partition system so that Linux can recognice it makes the disk unbootable to Shield. Shield can only use the "messed up" version of the disk.

    Next big question is how is the partiton system messed up and is it possible to first fix it, then secondly change kernel and root system and what ever needed and in the end make this again bootable to Shield. If this can be done, we are free to make new things beeing independent abou what Nvidia allows us to do. This is the ultimate goal.

    The SSD swap or "HD cloning" I made possible with the files shared with the torrent are just a tool. It gives all of you possibility to do and try anything you want without fear of losing the device totally by bricking it. It gives you means to restore the drive and make it bootable again.

    It's not important how I did it. Important is that more and more people try to find out how to go to the next level which is freedom to let this fine HW do what it's capable to.

    If I had time enough next thing to do was to first take bit to bit copy of working Shield HD. Then fixing partition table to make it readable for standard Linux and third thing would be finding differencies between original copy and fixed one. If we are lucky, there will be only a few first sectors to differ from each other and making fixed copy bootable to shield will be only replacing those few sectors.

    B.T.W How many of you have already given it a try? Have you found new HD/SSD types that will work with Shield? I suppose next important thing was making a list of drives that will do. That's the way I can help us now to reach the "ultimate" goal.
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