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Therollingstone

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I dont really understand Sony's policy about software , you're creating a new phone which relaesed in feb 2012 and the most current software is ice cream sandwich and the phone comes with gingerbread , it sounds like you creating a high end notebook and it comes with vista ,

you sucks Sony , believe me I'm telling this just buying Xperia S a few hours ago .

even though u sucks , u dont destroy my feelings about sony
 
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MasterLinuxer

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I dont really understand Sony's policy about software , you're creating a new phone which relaesed in feb 2012 and the most current software is ice cream sandwich and the phone comes with gingerbread , it sounds like you creating a high end notebook and it comes with vista ,

you sucks Sony , believe me I'm telling this just buying Xperia S a few hours ago .

even though u sucks , u dont destroy my feelings about sony

We'll just have to hope that they work hard optimising it.. I prefer a delayed optimised ICS than a crappy worthless update

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Nimche

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We'll just have to hope that they work hard optimising it.. I prefer a delayed optimised ICS than a crappy worthless update

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I totally get what you say, but you don't want to wait for ages to put an outdated but optimized OS on your phone? I hope for some BETA tester ROM release from Sony on Xperia S forum as well.
 

shmoejoe

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I'm not sure we have to wait all that much longer...

They said it can be end of March/early April, I would assume they would try and release it around then, or at least that beta you speak of. I don't think Sony wants to adopt SE's update reputation, so I would hope they would release it around when they said they will release it.

Jelly Bean is in the works, sure, but it's all down to rumors at the moment to when it will be actually released. If we are one update behind for awhile, I don't really care as long as it's optimized for the phone, and not some half-baked, rushed OS port.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/28/android-5-release-date-jelly-bean_n_1306952.html
 

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I will say that coming from a Nexus S which was running CM9 (ICS), the interface Sony has put on top of Gingerbread does a great job. I thought I'd hate taking the step back but other than a few little bits, it's not that big of a difference. Things like the themed progress bars and buttons really remove some of the ugliness that GB still had.

Don't get me wrong, I am VERY excited about ICS on this device but I don't miss ICS as much as I thought I would. I can certainly hold on for a few weeks.
 

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I totally get what you say, but you don't want to wait for ages to put an outdated but optimized OS on your phone? I hope for some BETA tester ROM release from Sony on Xperia S forum as well.

For the general public, beta roms with problems can cause much more damage reputation-wise (aka "this phone sucks, it crashes all the time lol").

Also, I like how Asus has pushed fast ICS releases for the Transformer, but it does not yet have the stability of the previous HC version. Picking up your tablet/phone for a 3 minutes read and seeing it reboot spontaneously is not that great

So I prefer Sony to be a bit late and get a good ICS release at the first try. And when it comes to the Arc/Arc S, we will know the XPS version will be close :)
 

Nimche

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For the general public, beta roms with problems can cause much more damage reputation-wise (aka "this phone sucks, it crashes all the time lol").

Also, I like how Asus has pushed fast ICS releases for the Transformer, but it does not yet have the stability of the previous HC version. Picking up your tablet/phone for a 3 minutes read and seeing it reboot spontaneously is not that great

So I prefer Sony to be a bit late and get a good ICS release at the first try. And when it comes to the Arc/Arc S, we will know the XPS version will be close :)
What I would be suggesting is for them to work harder to hit the market at a right time with fully optimized upgrade. If they don't want loss of customer like what they did back in X10 time, they need to still work faster and base on 2011 model upgrade and what we saw, they are on a right track.
 

Alien987

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What I would be suggesting is for them to work harder to hit the market at a right time with fully optimized upgrade. If they don't want loss of customer like what they did back in X10 time, they need to still work faster and base on 2011 model upgrade and what we saw, they are on a right track.

How many brands have upgraded their lineup to ICS so far "at a right time and fully optimized"? If Sony delivers an upgrade before end of Q2 they're still in a comparable time with other brands unless all the others suddenly deliver it in the following 1-2 months, because so far only Samsung (that is the biggest Android manufacturer at the moment) is barely pointing to an imminent SGS2 upgrade (based on rumors, not even officially yet).
 

Razje

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I dont really understand Sony's policy about software , you're creating a new phone which relaesed in feb 2012 and the most current software is ice cream sandwich and the phone comes with gingerbread , it sounds like you creating a high end notebook and it comes with vista ,

you sucks Sony , believe me I'm telling this just buying Xperia S a few hours ago .

even though u sucks , u dont destroy my feelings about sony

Here's your choice.
1.Be the first that has ICS.
2.Wait 2 more months and get a fully optimised ICS, totally optimised for your phone. That probably runs better than a HTC or Samsung on ICS with the same specs.

btw ICS isn't a super drastic update or something, you're acting like it's the difference between Window 3.11 and Windows 7.
 

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Here's your choice.
2.Wait 2 more months and get a fully optimised ICS, totally optimised for your phone. That probably runs better than a HTC or Samsung on ICS with the same specs.

btw ICS isn't a super drastic update or something, you're acting like it's the difference between Window 3.11 and Windows 7.

I agree :)
 

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How many brands have upgraded their lineup to ICS so far "at a right time and fully optimized"? If Sony delivers an upgrade before end of Q2 they're still in a comparable time with other brands unless all the others suddenly deliver it in the following 1-2 months, because so far only Samsung (that is the biggest Android manufacturer at the moment) is barely pointing to an imminent SGS2 upgrade (based on rumors, not even officially yet).


Htc have already released ics for their sensation phones, also alot of manufacturers would have phones released next month with ics onboard.

I'm not buying the Xperia S until the ics update comes out, it just doesn't feel right to spend $600+ aud on a high end phone that comes with a 1.5 yrs old os that my current phone is running. If ics doesn't come out by april. I'm buying a new phone from the other manufacturers which does have ics.

btw ICS isn't a super drastic update or something, you're acting like it's the difference between Window 3.11 and Windows 7.

It is (probably more like xp to windows 7), just hw acceleration and support for the google chrome browser is reason enough for the upgrade.
ICS is the only reason I am upgrading from my n1
 
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Nimche

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Well, thanks for all the comments up there ^^^.
I did the ICS upgrade that ZD did in arc board and have it on my arc and it was based on Vanilla ICS. I got the best battery and performance I have ever got on any android phone (owned 4 so far)
Second, optimization with Sony won't be there ever. While I agree there are lots of work with custom UI and setting and adding extra stuff that Sony does't with their on-top of OS thing, but if you pay attention, the OS on Xperia S 2.3.7 that should be optimized, its not even close to being optimized. Battery is like hell, I got rid of all the junk apps (bascially everything) and have nothing to run live, plus battery of this phone is bigger that arc (yes, screen is larger as well) but still not close even to arc.

I like to be optimist about this situation, but I was more hoping for a Beta version so maybe our beloved developers could make something out of it.

You guys don't worry, I won't be waiting for Sony to release its optimized ICS since I really don't care about the UI.

I hope I didn't go over board since we are all here to have fun. :D
 

Alien987

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Htc have already released ics for their sensation phones, also alot of manufacturers would have phones released next month with ics onboard.

I'm not buying the Xperia S until the ics update comes out, it just doesn't feel right to spend $600+ aud on a high end phone that comes with a 1.5 yrs old os that my current phone is running. If ics doesn't come out by april. I'm buying a new phone from the other manufacturers which does have ics.



It is (probably more like xp to windows 7), just hw acceleration and support for the google chrome browser is reason enough for the upgrade.
ICS is the only reason I am upgrading from my n1

You mean the Sensation ICS update officially released only in a couple of countries with bugs as idiot as links not opening in the browser?

If your priority is having ICS and Jelly Bean when released ASAP your only real option is a Nexus Galaxy. As of today Android is still a train wreck when it comes to OEM updates...
 

THeLogiC

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you people should look at SGSII forums.People are complaining about the rushed ICS official update. :p
 
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    Apparently, you do not want this thread to remain open.
    And I do not want to hear anyone saying I am unfair because even though yesterday I posted this:

    Thread cleaned and re-opened.
    Ideally, no new posts should be made before the actual release.
    If you absolutely have to post something, it has to be some kind of new information.
    This is not an IRC chatroom, nor a place to blow off steam.
    Please proceed on topic, that being the ICS update.
    Next time, I will lock it permanently.

    I let the thread grow 10 pages of chat-like posts repeating over and over the exact same speculations and decided I would let you guys kill some time until the update.

    (I've been an X10 user dying to get Gingerbread and then an Arc S user waiting for an ICS update. I know how torturing the waiting can be and how it can get to anyone's nerves. Whether we admit it or not, our mobile phones become a big part of our lives, that is why most of us are here anyway.)

    But opening this thread today and seeing personal attacks between members is not something I can let slip. You proved that you cannot keep a low-key discussion and I am not willing to keep cleaning up after you.

    Thread closed.
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    A comprehensive FAQ for a concerned ICS zealot
    The text in italics is unconfirmed or doubted information

    Q: When is ICS being released?
    A: Q2 2012. That is the second three months, i.e. April, May and June.

    Q: Why is it taking so long?
    A: Because the Xperia S was released in the process of the Sony/Ericsson merger. They are still working on integration between the teams and much more that needs to be done.

    Q: Any chance we get it earlier?
    A: Yes, starting from this week (05/21/12) to early June.

    Q: When does <country> get it?
    A: The rollout usually starts in Nordic countries (Sweden, homeland of Ericsson) and then continues when local carrier testing is passed. However once it's out in Sweden, someone will surely upload a flashable FTF for us all to enjoy :)

    Q: Any chance we see a leaked build?
    A: Not from me. If anyone else wants to leak it, you're welcome.

    Q: What's the version?
    A: Android 4.0.4 with kernel 3.0.8. Sony build is 6.1.A.0.3xx or 4xx.

    Q: Will it have face unlock?
    A: Yes.

    Q: Will it have <any other feature here>?
    A: The feature set is close to ICS for 2011 devices, but there will be some goodies.

    Q: Is battery life any good?
    A: Really good, better than .73.

    Q: Do we have any factual proof?
    A: See the proof list below.

    Factual proof list

    Changelog
    • 21/05/2012: Started the FAQ

    PM me if I missed anything (or just ask in the thread again :p) and please, don't quote this post ever.
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    Lets see if I can get something up and running for u guys ;-)

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    it seem to me that only names have changed from sony ericsson to sony but all old lazy empty head basters :mad: stay where as it was before where are those blady reduction jobs they taking ****ing wages and keep chairs warm getting fat. :rolleyes:

    sorry for wording

    With that efficiency they can only dream about increase profit and market share:eek:

    btw end of the Q2 is end of june ? so eventually we got only two weeks delay so is not too bad:D

    They want and are able to increase profits and market share. Things are changing for Sony and inside Sony. They're not lazy, they are busy upgrading your grandma's Xperia pro. Not a single other manufacturer delivered updates for every previous generation device, even budget dumbphones. Sony did, or at least they are working to do it. Sony is the biggest AOSP contributor after Google itself. Sony pushes the new Xperia lineup aggressively and I've already seen a whole bunch of people switch to the S and the P, some of them ditching their iPhones. Sony hires highly qualified engineers and software developers, not some 'old lazy empty head basters'. I'm not being a fanboy here, the only company I'm a fanboy of is Studio Ghibli. I'm just trying to make you all understand the good things. The Galaxy S is not getting ICS. The Xperia active is. Because they ducking care for you. Because the universe doesn't end with the Xperia S. Because there are more people with 2011 Xperia devices who want to get ICS. Because there are people with 2011 Samsung devices that never will. Because you, yes you, are f-wording the people who care for you.
    If anyone from Sony is reading it: sadly, the only thing that's expressed publicly about you is whine and insults. I feel sorry for this and for the state of XDA in general. We don't post love letters here, but we are thankful for all the work you've done. We care about you and we understand you don't owe us anything. Take your time, make it perfect and watch the whine turn into love.