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I m sorry I dont really understand your query, is it not clear from looking at the photos how the unit fits ? Is it not clear that this unit is definitely "integrated" (ie one piece), albeit not in the usual double DIN case, but in a custom made moulding for your car ? What problems would any of this likely give you ?

If you read the first post you will see that KLD means a Klyde unit and that ALL types are RK3066.
Sorry for being hard to understand, but I was just unsure about the fact this unit being fitted into unusual 1U HU instead of 2U HU. Maybe the necessary hardware is just there and this unit is compatible.

I'm not worried about fitting this set into my car, I was just worried about units hardware and software compatibility.
 

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I see you have a Golf MK6 variant. Does your car have the dual fakra antenna? How is your radio reception on the HuiFei, and what antenna adapter are you using?

Edit: Nevermind, found your old post. You describe my radio problems exactly. I've tried 3 antenna adapters. I ordered the Klyde unit to see if it's any better with our car (different radio IC in the Klyde).
Yes I have still same problem but I didn’t do anything since my last post about this issue, to be honest I don't listen radio. In most cases I am on Poweramp and that’s it, if I really need radio I just run Tunnelin radio since I have a good monthly data plan, since I got 3 years warranty with my unit I don’t want to avoid it by opening the unit to fix it, otherwise I would rearrange everything and check the soldering points.

But I wish you goodluck with the Klyde unit and the fakra antenna.
 
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Sorry for being hard to understand, but I was just unsure about the fact this unit being fitted into unusual 1U HU instead of 2U HU. Maybe the necessary hardware is just there and this unit is compatible.

I'm not worried about fitting this set into my car, I was just worried about units hardware and software compatibility.
I cant see why as the specs clearly state that the hardware and software are the same as any other variant and I m still unsure what you mean by "compatibility", compatibility with what ? !

The BMW versions are also single DIN also. The hardware of the one you posted is the same, but he screen is mounted outside of the main unit, that is all.
 

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So the seller reluctantly canceled the order for the KGL unit I placed, and now Aliexpress is automatically canceling all the orders I make and requesting I provide scans of my DL and credit card. I dont want to do that. I ordered a Klyde unit on Tmart via paypal. No experience with Tmart, no clue how long it will be to ship. When I bought my GS unit on Ali I had it in my hands like 3 days later :crying:

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I see you have a Golf MK6 variant. Does your car have the dual fakra antenna? How is your radio reception on the HuiFei, and what antenna adapter are you using?

Edit: Nevermind, found your old post. You describe my radio problems exactly. I've tried 3 antenna adapters. I ordered the Klyde unit to see if it's any better with our car (different radio IC in the Klyde).
I bought this fakra adapter that fits and works okay on my Golf mk6 variant:

ebay.de/itm/160768506253?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The first adapter i bought didn't fit the double fakra that is in the golf mk6, besides the reception with this first adapter was very poor. Another problem with these fakra adapters (both of them) is that the pin inside the connector is pushed inside when connecting the fakra connector. I hope you understand what i mean :) So pay attention on the pin inside the connector of the adapter cable when connecting them to the Original VW cable in your car.
 
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Okay, First of all my car is a Golf MK6 Variant, and I didn’t do any FW updates at all yet, I got the unit 5 months now. First I ordered the unit even before I received it I decided to order the TV Box too and seller was kind to send it without shipment costs.

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Hope that helps :D To be honest I am getting little bit scared to update the FW and have problems with the TV app and such, but I really like to have 2-way CAN-BUS working, so at the end I will do it but have to wait little bit, first I want the GPS dongle working and the TV working than I will back it up before I start with any upgrade.
Thousand thanks for your again prompt and extensive reply as well as your considerable effort!!!

For the time being you don't need to put any further effort regarding my problem.

I have also "KGL" [without any further number] MCU image. I will try to find V1.70 release somwhere in the internet. Forun's repository has only software starting V1.77. If I find, I will downgrade *MY* radio for testing.

BTW. I couldn't follow and wondered about your final comment "first I want the GPS dongle working and the TV working"
Do you have problems with GPS? ...and I assumed your TV is working...???
 

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Okay, First of all my car is a Golf MK6 Variant, and I didn’t do any FW updates at all yet, I got the unit 5 months now. First I ordered the unit even before I received it I decided to order the TV Box too and seller was kind to send it without shipment costs.

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Hope that helps :D To be honest I am getting little bit scared to update the FW and have problems with the TV app and such, but I really like to have 2-way CAN-BUS working, so at the end I will do it but have to wait little bit, first I want the GPS dongle working and the TV working than I will back it up before I start with any upgrade.
Hi, I have the same car and radio as you have, and from NL too. I did some FW upgrade (and downgrade) I suggest you upgrade to 'mcu.img' v1.77 with system image 'update.img' v1.99. The problems i got with MCU v1.99: steering wheel track up and down buttons skips several tracks, and front lightning always on. With MCU v1.77 I don't have these problems.
I don't know what the problem with your DTV is (I have the same DTV box attached, mine is stamped DTV4) but possibly you didnt select DTV in the factory menu of the radio. (The menu with code 126) You have to choose for TV option: TV03-ISDB-T...
In FW1.77 and FW1.99 there is an DTV app selectable in the android menu. If you can't find it i can send it to you if you want. It is just 61kB in size.
 
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ProfessorKnox

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Hi, I have the same car and radio as you have, and from NL too. I did some FW upgrade (and downgrade) I suggest you upgrade to 'mcu.img' v1.77 with system image 'update.img' v1.99. The problems i got with MCU v1.99: steering wheel track up and down buttons skips several tracks, and front lightning always on. With MCU v1.77 I don't have these problems.
I don't know what the problem with your DTV is (I have the same DTV box attached, mine is stamped DTV4) but possibly you didnt select DTV in the factory menu of the radio. (The menu with code 126) You have to choose for TV option: TV03-ISDB-T...
In FW1.77 and FW1.99 there is an DTV app selectable in the android menu. If you can't find it i can send it to you if you want. It is just 61kB in size.
@ev1966: It's me who has problems with the DTV box.
Thanks for your information.
I have the correct option enabled in the factory setting menu and i have also the DTV app in android menu.
MTCDTV.apk with size 142k
(Also MTCATV.apk with size 62k, but this is for analog TV).

Would you mind if you send me you your MTCDTV.apk for testing?

If you are interested, you may have a look at my post #3267.
 
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I just brick mine.

KGL 7620G (withouth knobs)

I was this evening installing Viper 4 Android (amazing eq for our units), and later trying to change resolutions.

I tried to change lcd density from build.prop from 240 to 220.

I did:
"adb pull /system/build.prop"

change lcd density from 240 to 220 and then

adb shell
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /system

adb push /system/build.prop/

and then reboot


Then unit is now in bootloop.

I don't know what to do. I did a backup with NANDROID in TWRP format, but i don't know how to use it now.


¿Any recommendation?

I tried to get into recovery mode but i don't have any backup of my system in the format that could be readed by recovery.


Please i need help!! :/
 

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Thousand thanks for your again prompt and extensive reply as well as your considerable effort!!!
BTW. I couldn't follow and wondered about your final comment "first I want the GPS dongle working and the TV working"
Do you have problems with GPS? ...and I assumed your TV is working...???
I don't know what the problem with your DTV is.
Sorry guys, I mislead you with my busted English I guess, my TV box is running fine what I meant was I want it working in the car since I have to install it yet, I only tested in my electronics lab and it is working. I just wanted to wait before FW upgrade till I install the TV box in the car.
@ProfessorKnox, I am glad if I could help with anything, about the GPS… my bad again LOL I meant GSM dongle with a SIM card, I was up early to today and tired after work so excuse my typo there :)
@ev1966, I don’t have any problems with the unit at the moment, I just wanted 2 way CAN-Bus working with 1.99, I don’t have steering wheel controls but lights staying on is a issue for me to be honest, so probably I have to test it or stay on 1.70 and wait till newer version comes out, but I am glad I can rely on you when I bump in to problems, thank you :)
 
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ev1966

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Sorry guys, I mislead you with my busted English I guess, my TV box is running fine what I meant was I want it working in the car since I have to install it yet, I only tested in my electronics lab and it is working. I just wanted to wait before FW upgrade till I install the TV box in the car.

@ProfessorKnox, I am glad if I could help with anything, about the GPS… my bad again LOL I meant GSM dongle with a SIM card, I was up early to today and tired after work so excuse my typo there :)

@ev1966, I don’t have any problems with the unit at the moment, I just wanted 2 way CAN-Bus working with 1.99, I don’t have steering wheel controls but lights staying on is a issue for me to be honest, so probably I have to test it or stay on 1.70 and wait till newer version comes out, but I am glad I can rely on you when I bump in to problems, thank you :)
@ Reptile-X: I am on 'MCU.img' 1.77 with 'update.img' 1.99 and i still have 2 way can (with doors open and closed icons on my HU). I can recommend this upgrade.
 
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@ev1966: It's me who has problems with the DTV box.
Thanks for your information.
I have the correct option enabled in the factory setting menu and i have also the DTV app in android menu.
MTCDTV.apk with size 142k
(Also MTCATV.apk with size 62k, but this is for analog TV).

Would you mind if you send me you your MTCDTV.apk for testing?

If you are interested, you may have a look at my post #3267.
Here you have my APK from v1.77.
Another thing with the control of this DTV box: you are aware that the touchscreen control for the DTV box has to be done with the Arrow keys left and right, and up and down on the screen? It's a bit lousy and different then usual control on the music and radio app.
 

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@ Reptile-X: I am on 'MCU.img' 1.77 with 'update.img' 1.99 and i still have 2 way can (with doors open and closed icons on my HU). I can recommend this upgrade.
Ah great thanks! :) I have to figure out how to do that with mixing MCU and Update since I didn't read whole thread but that will be okay.
And thanks for the Fakra adaptor you posted, I will order one directly. I have a similar adaptor in my Car right now but the dual connectors did not fit so I had to modify the adaptor (not the one in the car) but I had still bad reception, so I pulled out the blue +12V wire since it was not working.
 

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You've got a custom recovery like TWRP? If so, you should be able to use adb via the front usb port while in recovery to push a stock version of the build.prop.
I didn't flash TWRP. I just installed nandroid backup and I made a backup selecting TWRP format. That's a collection of files with *.win extension that I don't know what to do.
 

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I didn't flash TWRP. I just installed nandroid backup and I made a backup selecting TWRP format. That's a collection of files with *.win extension that I don't know what to do.
You should be able to put the update.img on an sdcard and flash that to get a working system again. I guess if Nandroid Backup doesn't do restores, then you'd have to install TWRP to restore the files made.
 
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Here you have my APK from v1.77.
Another thing with the control of this DTV box: you are aware that the touchscreen control for the DTV box has to be done with the Arrow keys left and right, and up and down on the screen? It's a bit lousy and different then usual control on the music and radio app.
Thanks a lot.

Yes, I know that TV is to be controlled by the up/down/right/left soft keys on the touch screen. But that on-screen menu doesn't appear at all when touching the screen.

With my previous radio (Krämer Automotive KR-G6+) I had a Tristan Auron DT2420 Diversity DVB-T receiver with fantastic reception due to diversity. This box has the same on-screen control principle (maybe from the same manufacturer similar to all the KGL radio variants discussed here). But I can't use that box with the Erisin radio because of different connector type And different control voltage levels (DT2420 = 12V/5V, Erisin = 12V/3.3V).

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Sorry guys, I mislead you with my busted English I guess, my TV box is running fine what I meant was I want it working in the car since I have to install it yet, I only tested in my electronics lab and it is working. I just wanted to wait before FW upgrade till I install the TV box in the car.

@ProfessorKnox, I am glad if I could help with anything, about the GPS… my bad again LOL I meant GSM dongle with a SIM card, I was up early to today and tired after work so excuse my typo there :)

@ev1966, I don’t have any problems with the unit at the moment, I just wanted 2 way CAN-Bus working with 1.99, I don’t have steering wheel controls but lights staying on is a issue for me to be honest, so probably I have to test it or stay on 1.70 and wait till newer version comes out, but I am glad I can rely on you when I bump in to problems, thank you :)

@Reptile-X: No probelm at all. At the end of the day it's just to have a common understanding :)
 

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Thanks a lot.

Yes, I know that TV is to be controlled by the up/down/right/left soft keys on the touch screen. But that on-screen menu doesn't appear at all when touching the screen.

With my previous radio (Krämer Automotive KR-G6+) I had a Tristan Auron DT2420 Diversity DVB-T receiver with fantastic reception due to diversity. This box has the same on-screen control principle (maybe from the same manufacturer similar to all the KGL radio variants discussed here). But I can't use that box with the Erisin radio because of different connector type And different control voltage levels (DT2420 = 12V/5V, Erisin = 12V/3.3V)
As your reseller has told you, the fault could be in your HU as well as in your DTV box (or the cable between them?). What FW are you on at the moment? Maybe an upgrade could do the trick?
 
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