Once rooted/flashed, can I restore my phone to out-of-the-box?

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I just bought a new (used) Note 4. It is fresh, stock, BOB7.

If I root, install recovery, and install a new rom, I figure it will trip Knox and turn it "custom".
My question - is it possible after that to return to out-of-the-box-stock? Do I have to take an image of the current config or something?

Thanks!
Mike
 

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I just bought a new (used) Note 4. It is fresh, stock, BOB7.

If I root, install recovery, and install a new rom, I figure it will trip Knox and turn it "custom".
My question - is it possible after that to return to out-of-the-box-stock? Do I have to take an image of the current config or something?

Thanks!
Mike
Yes. You can odin the stock ob7 tar and the phone will be as out of the box but of course Knox will still be tripped.

Get the stock tar here in the OP :

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2944867

Full instructions are there also.
 
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Yes. You can odin the stock ob7 tar and the phone will be as out of the box but of course Knox will still be tripped.

Get the stock tar here in the OP :

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2944867

Full instructions are there also.
Wow, you Note 4 guys are quick. Thanks for the reply!

So, not that it matters too much, but there is no way to retain/restore the Knox counter then? On my Note 2, there was a flashable back-to-stock image.
 

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Not at this time and unlikely in the future.
Wasnt there talk in the past, forgot who or what thread it was in/about and it was stated that after the repair center gave them their phone back the knox-counter was reset to 0x0 ?

Ive seen many mentions of xda users in this forum(N910P) of working at sprint stores, if not that, working in the repair center. With the FUSE counter itself being an issue and the Signature also being an issue, i wonder the validity of that claim(counter reset), let alone if anyone who claims to work at sprint, could provide feedback on that claim, which at the time, there was none and yet to be.

And the surprising jump in members alone from the last year and a half to current date(wasnt it like 5.5 mil and now its sitting at a cool 6.5 mil) no telling how many Samsung employees probably just sit and search to counter hurdles that have been leaped, only to have updates, like OE1, magically and inconveniently push out updates thwarting what devs have accomplished.
 
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Wasnt there talk in the past, forgot who or what thread it was in/about and it was stated that after the repair center gave them their phone back the knox-counter was reset to 0x0 ?

Ive seen many mentions of xda users in this forum(N910P) of working at sprint stores, if not that, working in the repair center. With the FUSE counter itself being an issue and the Signature also being an issue, i wonder the validity of that claim(counter reset), let alone if anyone who claims to work at sprint, could provide feedback on that claim, which at the time, there was none and yet to be.

And the surprising jump in members alone from the last year and a half to current date(wasnt it like 5.5 mil and now its sitting at a cool 6.5 mil) no telling how many Samsung employees probably just sit and search to counter hurdles that have been leaped, only to have updates, like OE1, magically and inconveniently push out updates thwarting what devs have accomplished.
Well. I had run across a tmo thread that had posts stating phones had been returned with the Knox bit reset. There was a guy posting in that thread saying he worked out front at a Samsung authorized repair joint and had techs tell him the bit can be restored. Others elsewhere thought it would take replacing the mother board to achieve that. Bottom line I took from all that was samsung will repair a clearly bad hardware issue even with the bit tripped. Of course a lot of legend in their own mind types put the pupu on that but it has happened.

And yes, Samsung has been engaged in a we'll show you thing. Now I'm probably going to catch a lot of flack for saying this but I'm going to.

Most of the development for Android devices comes from the US... I think it's very likely the Koreans (samsung) hate that and take it as a challenge to show how much better/smarter they are than we.

Just my non insider opinion...
 
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Well. I had run across a tmo thread that had posts stating phones had been returned with the Knox bit reset. There was a guy posting in that thread saying he worked out front at a Samsung authorized repair joint and had techs tell him the bit can be restored. Others elsewhere thought it would take replacing the mother board to achieve that. Bottom line I took from all that was samsung will repair a clearly bad hardware issue even with the bit tripped. Of course a lot of legend in their own mind types put the pupu on that but it has happened.

And yes, Samsung has been engaged in a we'll show you thing. Now I'm probably going to catch a lot of flack for saying this but I'm going to.

Most of the development for Android devices comes from the US... I think it's very likely the Koreans (samsung) hate that and take it as a challenge to show how much better/smarter they are than we.

Just my non insider opinion...
Yep, TW, Tizen, Knox, KnoxII, menu/recents button. Need I say more: Samsung/Galaxy app store, Milk, Chrome plug-in, security updates. Google has a rocky relationship with Samsung. One minute they're slapping then on the wrist, the next minute they're defending them in court against Apple.

All the while Samsung is copying Google to be their own standalone mobile platform. They may succeed eventually.

Competition is good. Truth is Samsung needs Google right now with its dwindling sales.

When the S5 came out with the menu switch from recents back to menu as an option, I was with Samsung on that but the Note 4 seemed to be a wink at Google like Samsung was more willing to do things Google's way. That gave us the silly white background menus and removed the menu/recents option in settings. What a cave in! Wrong move giving us KnoxII with non-user trip reset and this ugly UI. I hear they messed with the S5 on updates too. Yuck Samsung!

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