One S: totally a downgrade from XE! No longer an option..

Sebastian768

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Yes, it's fat. There, I said it, the Sensation XE is fat and it's heavy. The One S wins hands down there. I have small hands and the One S was easier to hold, more comfortable and it felt more "right"...

But apart from taking up pocket space, what do you actually use the most on a smartphone? It's a trick question.....it's the screen.

I can't understand WHY HTC put a pentile screen on the One S. Compare the screens and the One S is an obvious downgrade from the XE. I didn't think I would mind as much, but when trying out the phone it really REALLY annoyed me. Holding them up side by side, the XE wins hands down. It just looks better.

If we look away from the possibility that it's a supply issue, that there is a lack of better screens, this is yet again clearly a sign of HTC's bad decisions of late.

The only reason I can see for using the pentile screen on the One S, is to make it obvious for potential buyers in-store that the One X is the superior phone. Spec wise, it is across the board, we all know that. But in the shop and in daily use, the difference isn't that noticable. Coming from an iPhone, you won't notice that the One S has lower specs that the X in daily use. But a consumer holding up the S and X next to each other, they will clearly see that the X is better. I think, if the S had the same display as, most MOST (but not all) would choose the S because of the size and they wouldn't care as much about the sprec. So HTC but an inferior screen in so they wouldn't compete against themselves.

The X is too big for my hands, the S is the mainstream perfect size. For now, I'm sticking with the XE and next time, I might just get a Samsung. It's the only way I can show HTC, by how I use my money. Ranting here sure won't help hehe.

HTC need a reality check, like STUCK plummeting, important people getting fired, good staff going to Samsung.
 

buzzboy

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Agreed. I owned a One S for a period of two days. Totally disappointed with the Screen, battery and functionality.
And I also agree, my XE wins hands down, and I was glad to be using it afterwards.

I have a friend who works in "A big Phone Retailer" who has never seen so many returns with the whole range.

HTC needs to change their strategy, because it's losing customers with the "ONE" range. I am one of them.

Regards to the OP.
 

kingston73

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I'm up for my tmo contract at the end of this year but I could get a discount on a new phone now and I'm definitely NOT going with the one S. I just don't see any benefit using it over the sensation. I'm hoping Tmo gets the GS 3 when it comes out but I'm not holding my breath with that since they were the last of the major us carriers to get the gs 2.

The other option is going with the elephant sized galaxy note, but I really don't think that's for me.
 

OneOneSix

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I'm up for my tmo contract at the end of this year but I could get a discount on a new phone now and I'm definitely NOT going with the one S. I just don't see any benefit using it over the sensation. I'm hoping Tmo gets the GS 3 when it comes out but I'm not holding my breath with that since they were the last of the major us carriers to get the gs 2.

The other option is going with the elephant sized galaxy note, but I really don't think that's for me.
Agreed, I dont see how any one can make use of such a big device on the daily basis.
 

lianw

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So much rationalization in these forums.
Sensation vs SII, oh the Sensation feels faster than the SII (even though benchmarks and neutral users/reviewers all agree that the SII is a faster device) and the screen of the SII may be better than the Sensation but who cares, etc.

Now you have the One S, which is way faster than the Sensation with a worse screen, most people are still rationalizing about how the Sensation is a much superior device.

If that is the case, then the SII would have been the obvious choice from the beginning if all you want is a good display.
 

lianw

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Not really sure what your point is?:confused:
Stop using the screen as an argument for rationalizing about a device you own or to discredit a phone that's markedly faster.

The same people that have been hating on the SII did not care about the screen quality even though the device is faster.
Now you have a new device that has a worse screen that's way faster than the Sensation but the same people that did not care for the display of a device are hating on it BECAUSE of its screen.

Double standards much?
 

kingston73

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Oh, ok, I see what you're saying. The screen to me is a non-issue, I still don't see the one S being an upgrade over the sensation. Faster? In daily use or just in benchmarks? My biggest issue with it is the lack of storage, I used to have a 16 gb sd card and between music, video, and backups it got filled pretty quickly.

The battery isn't great but I could live with it, although if I'm on a trip away from home it's nice to know if I run out I have a backup battery I can just pop in the phone and go.
 

totalundone

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I wouldn't say it's a downgrade... but there's no compelling reason to upgrade.
While the chipset, camera, and dimensions are better - the screen is iffy (AMOLED but pentile), limited to 16 GB, and no real option (yet) to install a larger battery.

If they supported TMO AWS, I would probably be looking at the Xperia S. Slightly smaller than the Sensation with a 720p screen, more ram, better camera, etc. With the latest rumors that the GSIII has a 4.8" screen... I'm not sure I really want anything like that.
 

lianw

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Oh, ok, I see what you're saying. The screen to me is a non-issue, I still don't see the one S being an upgrade over the sensation. Faster? In daily use or just in benchmarks? My biggest issue with it is the lack of storage, I used to have a 16 gb sd card and between music, video, and backups it got filled pretty quickly.

The battery isn't great but I could live with it, although if I'm on a trip away from home it's nice to know if I run out I have a backup battery I can just pop in the phone and go.
Those are all valid reasons and I respect that and even agree with them.

What I think is absolutely ridiculous and stupid is the sheer amount of double standards and rationalization that a large number of people here tend to exhibit.
 

Dano79

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My sensation(running aokp) is an excellent phone and development is outstanding but the sense OS really sucks so I wont be buying a One S. Might try a samsung handset but after rooting and flashing 3 samsungs for friends and family huge PTA by the way I might have to jump ship altogether.
 

grcd

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I don't get the point of this rant. Tech-wise, One S is far superior to the One X in my opinion. I mean, apart from the screen, the One X has very little going for it. Tegra3 is a massive disappointment (just like Tegra2 was), and pales in comparison to Snapdragon 4 when it comes to the things that matter for a phone: Speed and battery life.

Yes, One S runs at a lower resolution, so it is close to 'cheating' since we are not comparing like-to-like. One S would probably be a much inferior experience to One X, if it was to run at the same (higher) resolution.

But we are comparing consumer experiences here, and that's where One S absolutely beats One X hands down. It feels faster (even on stock), and its battery life is one of the best I have seen on a phone. It regularly stays alive for over 3-4 days on a single charge, with data and sync on.

Plus, although Pentile, the Super AMOLED is still a work of beauty, delivering incredible colours and blacks. The only thing One X (and XE) have going for them is that S-LCD offers superior pixel density and does not have jagged-lines.

But One S is smaller, lighter, and clearly the better device.
 

KAwAtA

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I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.
agreed!

I think I see it 99% every time a new awsm phone comes out
 

Rackfoo

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Those are all valid reasons and I respect that and even agree with them.

What I think is absolutely ridiculous and stupid is the sheer amount of double standards and rationalization that a large number of people here tend to exhibit.
You have been on a discussion board before....right? :what:

Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
 

The Janitor Mop

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I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.
You're very unique on forums, and I can relate, because we think a lot alike. No matter what comes out, people will always find a way to argue that the Sensation is the better device. It's not unique behavior to the Sensation, nor is it unique to phones (I see the same behavior on car forums I'm on). Saying that the One S is undeniably worse is unreasonable. What would make sense is to say that you don't feel that the One S is enough of an improvement to justify jumping for it. For me, I really care about the display on a phone, and I've read enough bad things about the One S and its bad display to avoid it. I don't really get the rationalization behavior, though. It only took me 3 weeks after getting my Sensation way back when to wish I had waited to get the GS2 instead. I was also very vocal on this forum about how I thought the Sensation was nice for my first Android, but how I was also underwhelmed by it (especially the performance and screen) and I posted a lot in the early Sensation vs. GS2 threads about how I as a Sensation owner had to cede that the GS2 was the better overall device.

Back a little bit on topic, I have to say that I'm really disappointed in the trend we're seeing with Android devices. I really want the One X's screen, but the overall size of the One X is too big for me. The One S has the form factor I want, but not the screen. The GS3 is receiving major hype right now, but we can be fairly confident that it too will have a large 4.6"+ display and consequently large dimensions, so I don't think I can get the GS3 unless they manage to make the screen nearly edge to edge. Will we ever see 4.3" display devices that also get top of the line specs again?