OnePlus One Bend Test

zephiK

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That is just stupid.

This whole "bend gate" is stupid.

It's a phone, not a tank. Stop sitting on your phones and trying to bend them.
Thats the thing though, people are not purposely trying to bend them. On the iPhone, people are just having them in their pocket and are most likely wearing tight pants that are causing the their iPhones to bend.



But anywho.. the purpose of this thread is to see how the OPO would do and not about iPhone "bend"gate
 

Kerjifire

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That is just stupid.

This whole "bend gate" is stupid.

It's a phone, not a tank. Stop sitting on your phones and trying to bend them.
The thing is, the bending is occurring without people sitting on them, it's in their front pocket. Even I can recognize that when it is in my front pocket while driving, I can feel my jeans and my body physically pressing against my phone. This is only being noticed due to the large phones which have come out recently. Which is why I take it out whilst driving. But for some reason, people still keep it in their pockets. Granted, I understand if the phone is bending it is on the user, but then again a phone costing in excess of $800 shouldn't be bending so easily as reported.
 

mynameisjon

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I highly doubt people are getting their phones bent if they put it in their front pocket.


It took 100 PSI to bend it.

The only way it'll bend in the front pocket is if you're obese and you're still wearing tight pants.

Also if you're paying more than $800 for a phone, I'd think you'd put a little more effort into caring for it.
 

Kerjifire

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I highly doubt people are getting their phones bent if they put it in their front pocket.


It took 100 PSI to bend it.

The only way it'll bend in the front pocket is if you're obese and you're still wearing tight pants.

Also if you're paying more than $800 for a phone, I'd think you'd put a little more effort into caring for it.
If you've ever had a large phone and small pants pockets, you'd know that when you place it in your front pocket, you can feel it being put under a significant amount of stress. Particularly when sitting. Eg.
. Being larger than the phone in the image, I find the OPO also pushes against my body whilst sitting which again places stress on the phone. The Iphone 6 Plus, is equally as large, if not even slightly taller. So personally, I find this test very valid and applicable to my uses of the phone. Personal opinion I guess.

Also, the test you're showing doesn't actually target the fundamental point of bending for the iPhone, around the volume rocker housing. And yes, people definitely should be taking care of their phone better. But then again its a phone, its designed to be used and not looked at. I guess some people like using their phones by placing it in their pockets like me.
 

mynameisjon

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If you've ever had a large phone and small pants pockets, you'd know that when you place it in your front pocket, you can feel it being put under a significant amount of stress. Particularly when sitting. Eg.
. Being larger than the phone in the image, I find the OPO also pushes against my body whilst sitting which again places stress on the phone. The Iphone 6 Plus, is equally as large, if not even slightly taller. So personally, I find this test very valid and applicable to my uses of the phone. Personal opinion I guess.

Also, the test you're showing doesn't actually target the fundamental point of bending for the iPhone, around the volume rocker housing. And yes, people definitely should be taking care of their phone better. But then again its a phone, its designed to be used and not looked at. I guess some people like using their phones by placing it in their pockets like me.
Every structure will have it's weak points.

People who bought iPhones, bought it because of aesthetics. So you trade off a bit of rigidity for slimness.

I get what you mean regarding the front pocket, but generally I make sure the jeans I buy have pockets that are deep enough to accomodate my phone. If not I send them to a tailor to extend the pockets another 2-3 inches for about $2 a pocket.

I disagree with your point on "it's meant to be used and not looked at". Phones these days are marketed partially based on their aesthetics.

People who treat their phones like beater cars should expect the phones to be beat up.
 

Kerjifire

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Every structure will have it's weak points.

People who bought iPhones, bought it because of aesthetics. So you trade off a bit of rigidity for slimness.

I get what you mean regarding the front pocket, but generally I make sure the jeans I buy have pockets that are deep enough to accomodate my phone. If not I send them to a tailor to extend the pockets another 2-3 inches for about $2 a pocket.

I disagree with your point on "it's meant to be used and not looked at". Phones these days are marketed partially based on their aesthetics.

People who treat their phones like beater cars should expect the phones to be beat up.
True but then again people are too lazy to get their pockets extended :p

My words didn't come out right. What I was meant to say was that phones aren't bought "just" to be looked at. They have to have some sort of function otherwise you wouldn't carry it around or fork out money for it. For guys, we don't have handbags to store our phone so it is often the pocket which is the easiest method to carry our phones. Hence bend gate :)
 

Setting.Out

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True but then again people are too lazy to get their pockets extended :p

My words didn't come out right. What I was meant to say was that phones aren't bought "just" to be looked at. They have to have some sort of function otherwise you wouldn't carry it around or fork out money for it. For guys, we don't have handbags to store our phone so it is often the pocket which is the easiest method to carry our phones. Hence bend gate :)
I actually have a bag now, not purely for the phone, but for the fact that my jeans were not comfortable filled with the random items I needed for the day.. I laughed at myself at first having a "man purse" , but honestly I love my bag now. I used to have a car to keep most of my items in, but now I rely on public transport and a bag is essential.. I have put my phone in my pocket on occasion, but even with deep pockets it is uncomfortable and looks more silly to have a huge rectangular bulge, and silly to risk damaging it.. People should pay more attention and care to their things and not expect compensation for carelessness..

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most of the "scientific" tests I have seen have been using a test apparatus that provides solid stability on each end of the device and then applies an equally balanced pressure on the middle of the device. The videos that I have seen with an iphone bending has been applying unequal pressure on the edges of the phone, i.e. generating torsion on the chassis of the phone. Even the consumer reports scientific test shows that compared with many larger phones (which are likely to experience larger forces just by nature of their size), the iphone is significantly weaker than many comparable phones. Per their own article "Both models were weaker than the LG G3, the iPhone 5 and the Samsung Galaxy Note 3". The reality is that Apple through their own products has trained their users to an expectation of strength:

HTC One (m8) and Apple iPhone 6: 70 pounds, but note, the HTC one has a curved back-surface, which may result in deformation faster than a flat surface due to test methods, so it may actually be much stronger overall in real-world situations.
iPhone 6+: 90 pounds
iPhone 5, and others (in the 5.5 inch category): 130 pounds (this is nearly 2x the reported strength of the iPhone 6)

As such, apple consumers may have gotten use to the 130 pounds of force on a smaller phone, and feel that the new phone is inferior. It is, as compared with earlier products. It is not as strong, and due to the larger size, much easier to bend vs. the earlier models, due to larger stresses under similar conditions.

The reality is that if a person can tolerate physically deforming a metal object with their hands, it is likely too weak for daily use. The test methods also probably make the objects under test appear much stronger than they really are under real-world conditions. Cars are tested with offset head-on testing as they can be much more destructive than a direct head-on, as the pressures are not symmetrical. Same with phone deformation. Show me a test of each phone with the phone mounted at the corners, and the pressure applied in the middle, and I guarantee to you, the results will show a much lower pressure to deformation.