Opinions on the WHO's statement that cell phones may actually cause cancer?

rand4ll

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I can see the legitimacy of the claim considering the strength of the signals right next to your head. However for this to actually be proven will take time, a lot of it. If you use a cell phone constantly then investing in a bluetooth headset couldn't hurt,, but periodic use could be no worse than a day at the lake or beach.

Disclaimer : I am not a medical professional but a software developer, so these opinions are pure drivel and have no scientific basis other than knowing the scientific method and keeping my mind open to the possibility.

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KitsuneKnight

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There's been zero scientific studies that show any connection between cellphone use and any sort of cancer. Electro-sensitivity has also been entirely discredited, as people "suffering" from it were shown to have absolutely zero heightened ability to detect any sort of electrical field (which is probably a good thing, since the earth has a freaking massive one all around it).

It seems highly dangerous for the WHO to make any sort of statements like this without evidence to back it up. This is really just a political, not scientific, move.
 

droidzach

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(cough) bullshit! (cough)
havent we figured out now that everything will give you cancer
**** some asshats will tell you inorganic fruit and veggies will kill you! Haha I just laugh and wait for the air I breathe to give me cancer
Im sure somebody has a study that says it will
(cough) @!#% (cough) :)
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Living gives you cancer, dying doesn't. Being dead is the only way to be sure you won't get cancer, unless of course you had it when you died, then, I don't really know what hope you have :p
 

dmasjz45

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It doesn't take a genius to realize electromagnetic waves (radio) converge at our cell phone antennas and some of that energy is absorbed into our cells, closer to the antenna equals more absorption...since energy turns to heat obviously our cells are heated up and could damage dna over time...look at your microwave or an xray machine, yes given they are higher energy and lower wavelength they do much more damage but who knows what happens over 60 years of cell phone use if always holding it to the same ear

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chefthomas99

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Have a buddy who told me that he is cutting down on talk time on the phone cause of this - while he was lighting a cigarette.

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droidzach

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It doesn't take a genius to realize electromagnetic waves (radio) converge at our cell phone antennas and some of that energy is absorbed into our cells, closer to the antenna equals more absorption...since energy turns to heat obviously our cells are heated up and could damage dna over time...look at your microwave or an xray machine, yes given they are higher energy and lower wavelength they do much more damage but who knows what happens over 60 years of cell phone use if always holding it to the same ear

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These same geniuses can also figure out that more electromagnetic radiation (light) is absorbed in 10 minutes outside than likely in years of using a cell phone. Does tv cause cancer? tons of electromagnetic waves there too. I guess im screwed either way! Haha maybe I should take up smoking speed it up a lil!

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dmasjz45

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These same geniuses can also figure out that more electromagnetic radiation (light) is absorbed in 10 minutes outside than likely in years of using a cell phone. Does tv cause cancer? tons of electromagnetic waves there too. I guess im screwed either way! Haha maybe I should take up smoking speed it up a lil!

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What a moron this guy is, did he really just try to compare the sun to cell phones? You do realize how easy it is to get skin cancer, right? And actually yes genius, crt screens are known to emit low levels of xrays, unless you're living in the 90's and pinning your ear to your tv you probably don't need to worry...as I said before radio waves converge at an antenna, why do you think there are rf warning signs posted near antenna towers? you clearly aren't very technical, probably isn't the best idea to argue with an engineer

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Domush

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One, the findings are preliminary, not conclusive. The media needs to learn the difference. Two, everyone who follows even a little science knows cell phones have always contributed to cancer, as well as televisions, monitors, and just about anything electric. How much of a contribution cell phones make is the reason for the study, not IF, as media may confuse. Everyone knows all forms of radiation have a chance of altering the DNA of cells, therefore running the risk of making a cancerous cell, possibly causing full-blown cancer. Note the ifs in that statement. Even smoking cigarettes does not mean you WILL get cancer, it means more cells are modified, increasing the risk. Note the difference.

Anyhow, the study is preliminary, and therefore doesn't mean anything, yet. Prudence advices using your land-line, or bluetooth headset, seeing as it is much lower power, or speakerphone if you must use a cell phone. No matter the finding, cell phones at the ear will never be found good for you, so why wait for a finding to act?

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KitsuneKnight

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No matter the finding, cell phones at the ear will never be found good for you, so why wait for a finding to act?
Because if a year of using the cell phone contributes less to your cancer risk than going out just to check your mail in the morning, then it's a colossal waste of time, and effort. There have already been studies attempting to ascertain cell phone usage's contribution to cancer rates, and they've already failed to be able to show any increased risk.

Hell, people still sunbathe even though it's quite common knowledge that that massively increases your odds of getting skin cancer.
 

droidzach

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What a moron this guy is, did he really just try to compare the sun to cell phones? You do realize how easy it is to get skin cancer, right? And actually yes genius, crt screens are known to emit low levels of xrays, unless you're living in the 90's and pinning your ear to your tv you probably don't need to worry...as I said before radio waves converge at an antenna, why do you think there are rf warning signs posted near antenna towers? you clearly aren't very technical, probably isn't the best idea to argue with an engineer

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Haha I guess that engineers like this guy are too "technical" to understand simple sarcasm. The topic of this thread is a joke to me and thats all I was saying **** head. Im not afraid of getting cancer from my phone or tv or car radio or microwave or dental x rays or any other form of everyday very very low doses of radiation we encounter. Dont forget about all of the cosmic rays that are flying through your head right now! And you proved my point about the sun being way more dangerous by saying "do you know how easy it is to get skin cancer." (by the way heat is radiation too and is not what alters your cell's dna which is what cancer is) I wasnt arguing anything either where do you see arguments in my post? All radiation is electromagnetic waves right mr "engineer?" Radio waves converge at your car's antenna too, at every antenna. But I guess that im not "technical" enough to know that. Now I have to say this because you are just an asshole, but its very obvious that there are varying levels of radiation for everything some being more harmful than others. Every study that comes out seems to say you can get cancer from this and that. I just happen to think they are bullshit. Maybe you "engineers" just need things explicitly stated so you can comprehend. (moron) :)

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beray5

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Because if a year of using the cell phone contributes less to your cancer risk than going out just to check your mail in the morning, then it's a colossal waste of time, and effort. There have already been studies attempting to ascertain cell phone usage's contribution to cancer rates, and they've already failed to be able to show any increased risk.

Hell, people still sunbathe even though it's quite common knowledge that that massively increases your odds of getting skin cancer.
They did the studies with GSM phones where the emitted energy signature is a huge spike relative to CDMA phones where the energy signature is so distributed and ever so nebulous, its damn difficult to even get a DX lock on.

"it's a colossal waste of time, and effort." +1
 

FDro

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Remember when people thought cigarettes were good for you? And studies on the effects of prolonged use was incomplete? The studies are too young to give conclusive evidence here as well. People will give you all kinds of insight but ultimately its your life and you can chose to do what you want. You can proceed with caution or you can ignore it and assumed it has no effect. That is pretty much what it will boil down to until long term studies are done.
 

jamiekuhn

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The study said that the radiation is non-ionizing like that of a micro-wave. The media grabbed at this and said "the cell phone is going to cook your brain." The levels are not enough to "cook" anything. The point of saying that it is non-ionizing is to say that the likelyhood of causing cancer is very low since the types of radiations that cause cancer (like x-rays) are all ionizing. There is no clear evidence that there is a health risk. The media will still try to scare everyone into watching the news by saying "There is no clear evidence that cell phones are completely safe." Twist it which ever way makes your nipplettes perky.
 

Domush

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There is no clear evidence that there is a health risk.
The Media said:
There is no clear evidence that cell phones are completely safe.
Now, how is your statement any better than the media? You give unverified reassurance and the media gives unverified fear.

How many years passed before people even realized the effects of lead based paint? How about asbestos insulation? Hell, the first ever x-ray machines were used in shoe stores to judge your foot size! You think people thought they would get cancer from those back then?! I'm sure there were people lining up on both sides of the fence back then, too. All refusing to admit those three most difficult words of the self-assured "I.. don't.. know."

Stop doling out false conclusions when nobody knows the answer, hence preliminary findings. The answer is "We don't yet know enough to have an answer one way or the other." False calming has likely killed many more people than panic.

"Oh, these nuclear weapons tests.. no harm at all. Here, go clean up that green ooze with this here broom and dustpan."
or more recently..
"Formaldehyde is everywhere, we can't just go banning it because it's toxic"

As with anything potentially dangerous.. expose yourself as little as needed and no more.
 
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