P900 Rom Experience KK vs LP - Touchwiz

weaverinva

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I have been humming along on the P900 with the HyperDrive rom which just seems to work flawlessly and give good battery. Reading many posts that talk about battery life decrease on lollipop for not many more functions. I want a touchwiz rom because of the multiwindow functionality.

Does anyone have any comparison comments between a solid kitkat rom on P900 (like HyperDrive) to LL on the P900 (like civato ROM)?

Trying to decide if it is worth the investment to change it out and test etc. Thank you.
 
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muzzy996

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To be honest with you I was chomping at the bit for lollipop on the Note 4 due to the additional multiwindow feature of having the ability to swipe in from the upper corners to convert a fullscreen app into a windowed one. That function alone was enough for me to switch.

I've been on Civato's lollipop ROM basically since it came out and the experience is solid. I have no battery life complaints - to me battery life is less ROM dependent and more user software/use dependent. Everyone's mileage varies based upon load placed upon the device so manage your apps and you will be fine. For me i use Xposed module Amplify to control a handful of wakelocks and alarms to reduce standby drain, I also use Greenify to hibernate apps (and have ALL of the xposed based greenify features turned on). That combination gets me great standby drain of under 1% per hour (well under at times). Currently my battery is at 85% having been unplugged for 9 hours and having an hour of youtube streaming on it.

I'm not sure what features one may be fearful of losing on the move to LP but i don't think battery life should be a major concern but that's just me.
 

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this tab should never lose 1% per hour idle. ever ever ever lol

it has a pretty large capacity, 9800 mAh, and is not cellular. I don't run any kind of hibernation or kill mods, and can go almost all day idle per 1%

I am using Hyperdrive, and my friend also has the p900 -- his on civato LP. same result

I do wish I had that multi window minimize option, but I like the stability, smaller resource footprint, and mod compatibility of KK. I use/do a lot of things that most other ppl who mod probably wouldn't though.

also the full screen Recents screen on LP would bother the hell out of me lol anything that goes full screen disconnects me from a couple games I play (as if I received a call or something). on KK with partial screen Recents, I can kill apps anywhere any time without having to minimize or close the current app(s)
 

muzzy996

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this tab should never lose 1% per hour idle. ever ever ever lol

it has a pretty large capacity, 9800 mAh, and is not cellular. I don't run any kind of hibernation or kill mods, and can go almost all day idle per 1%

I am using Hyperdrive, and my friend also has the p900 -- his on civato LP. same result
Never say never. Depends upon what software people put on their devices that may produce wakelocks or frequently wake the device. Things like weather apps, multiple social media apps at once, multiple email accounts with lots of incoming email via push etc. I mean I totally agree with you, these tablets have a great kernel and sip power well at idle but OP brought up battery life as a concern over switching so I addressed that and arbitrarily tossed out a number and qualified it with a well under remark to boot. The typical reality for me is when I set my tablet down in the morning at work and pick it up 4 or 5 hours later the battery percentage hasn't changed more than a percentage point.

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Never say never. Depends upon what software people put on their devices that may produce wakelocks or frequently wake the device. Things like weather apps, multiple social media apps at once, multiple email accounts with lots of incoming email via push etc. I mean I totally agree with you, these tablets have a great kernel and sip power well at idle but OP brought up battery life as a concern over switching so I addressed that and arbitrarily tossed out a number and qualified it with a well under remark to boot. The typical reality for me is when I set my tablet down in the morning at work and pick it up 4 or 5 hours later the battery percentage hasn't changed more than a percentage point.
i don't use social media apps but my friend does. neither of us kept the email apps -- uninstalled from /system :)

I have like 20 push-notification enabled games and other background services including weather. he probably has about 50 or so push notification games. he's always struggling to find room to keep games installed lol point being we both have what would and should be perceived as monstrous wakelock
issues, but in spite of that still get great sleep times

idk how much we can credit the kernel for the long sleeps to be honest. I know kernels have a large impact on it but I've owned 7 android devices for 2+ years and all rooted within hours out-of-the-box

this one is a survivor, above all expectations :) I feel that the battery capacity is the largest factor here, because, for example, 10 wakes in an hour on a phone and 10 wakes on a tab, both with tuned custom kernels, should drain almost exactly the same power as each other. only with very minor differences

but that amount of power, is a smaller portion of the larger battery that was necessary for the giant screen. see what I'm getting at?
 
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muzzy996

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i don't use social media apps but my friend does. neither of us kept the email apps -- uninstalled from /system :)

I have like 20 push-notification enabled games and other background services including weather. he probably has about 50 or so push notification games. he's always struggling to find room to keep games installed lol point being we both have what would and should be perceived as monstrous wakelock
issues, but in spite of that still get great sleep times

idk how much we can credit the kernel for the long sleeps to be honest. I know kernels have a large impact on it but I've owned 7 android devices for 2+ years and all rooted within hours out-of-the-box

this one is a survivor, above all expectations :) I feel that the battery capacity is the largest factor here, because, for example, 10 wakes in an hour on a phone and 10 wakes on a tab, both with tuned custom kernels, should drain almost exactly the same power as each other. only with very minor differences

but that amount of power, is a smaller portion of the larger battery that was necessary for the giant screen. see what I'm getting at?
Definitely do yes and agree, the high capacity of the battery compared to other devices makes a huge difference in observed standby drain. I'm just not as comfortable as you are in speaking in absolutes, these subforums have far less battery related posts for a reason and that's the main one.

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