[PETITION] Android Nougat Update for Osprey and Merlin

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lost101

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Please discuss, post support and spread news about this petition: https://www.change.org/p/motorola-please-include-moto-g-3rd-gen-for-android-nougat-update

Motorola, please include Moto G (3rd Gen) for Android Nougat Update
On 4th October 2016 you announced on your official blog which handsets would be getting the Android 7.0 (Nougat) update.

Absent from the list was the Moto G 3rd Gen (Osprey) and Moto G Turbo Edition (Merlin) - making them historically the first Moto G phones to receive only one major Android update. Both Moto G 1st Gen (Falcon) and 2nd Gen (Titan) where given two Android updates - KitKat and Lollipop in the case of 'Falcon,' and Lollipop and Marshmallow for 'Titan.'

The abandoning of support for both 'Osprey' after 8 months (Android 6.0.1 was released in March 2016) and 'Merlin' after only 3 months shows that the Moto brand now will no longer respect the previous practise of providing ‘18 months of update support.’

Included on the current official Nougat update device list is the Moto G Play (4th Gen) - a handset with weaker specifications than both 'Osprey' and 'Merlin.'

The issue is not technical limitation. You appear to have simply decided your last generation Moto G handsets are no longer important.

The Moto G Play uses the exact same chipset and GPU as 'Osprey,' but runs at a lower CPU clock-speed. This profound hardware similarity suggests that in the process of making the update for Moto G Play; much of the work needed to produce a Nougat update for 'Osprey' would be completed.

Moto X Play (also on the Nougat update list) uses the exact same chipset and GPU as Moto G Turbo Edition - making both devices Vulkan compatible.

Moto G is a mid-range device, but your update support for it shrinks with each year. Why should people have confidence in your products when you so casually drop support for your best-selling phone?
 
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To play the devil's advocate, why does anyone care about Motorola updating the G3 to Nougat when it 1) has an unlockable bootloader and 2) is on the list for official CM14? This isn't an iPhone. You don't have to depend on the manufacturer for updates. Honestly I think Motorola was counting on G3 users flashing CM14.
Personally, I don't care if any phone I own has OTA updates as long as I have glorious CM.
 

Gravemind2015

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@argentwarrior20 - We still need fresh kernel sources, at least we *should* get them. And fresh proprietary blobs too.
There are a lot of users who want to stay stock or doesn't know about community development. They should get official updates too, we can't forget about them this easy [emoji106]

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althafvly

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@argentwarrior20 - We still need fresh kernel sources, at least we *should* get them. And fresh proprietary blobs too.
There are a lot of users who want to stay stock or doesn't know about community development. They should get official updates too, we can't forget about them this easy [emoji106]

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correct. and volte is only available in stock. so most people dont use cm14 or anyother custom roms now. coz of jio volte .. people still needs stock update
 

lost101

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@argentwarrior20 - You are assuming battery-life and performance is just as good in CM/AOSP, as on a Motorola developed Stock ROM. No disrespect to the XDA Devs, but Motorola can optimize and tweak for a superior experience. Also as already mentioned, specific features may only be supported on Stock. If it is at all possible, you should want the option of Stock Android 7.0 to be available.
 

MaRtYy01

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Im in,
although I seriously doubt that g3 and g power wont get the update.I mean,they arent even old,plus they are compatible,if they dont get the update the one to blame is totally the crappy lenovo which provides just 1 major update(for example,lenovo a6000 and tab 2 series but pretty much almost every their device can be here) and that update is so buggy that it either takes them 1 year to fix the bugs and optimise it or they dont fix them at all.
 

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    Please discuss, post support and spread news about this petition: https://www.change.org/p/motorola-please-include-moto-g-3rd-gen-for-android-nougat-update

    Motorola, please include Moto G (3rd Gen) for Android Nougat Update
    On 4th October 2016 you announced on your official blog which handsets would be getting the Android 7.0 (Nougat) update.

    Absent from the list was the Moto G 3rd Gen (Osprey) and Moto G Turbo Edition (Merlin) - making them historically the first Moto G phones to receive only one major Android update. Both Moto G 1st Gen (Falcon) and 2nd Gen (Titan) where given two Android updates - KitKat and Lollipop in the case of 'Falcon,' and Lollipop and Marshmallow for 'Titan.'

    The abandoning of support for both 'Osprey' after 8 months (Android 6.0.1 was released in March 2016) and 'Merlin' after only 3 months shows that the Moto brand now will no longer respect the previous practise of providing ‘18 months of update support.’

    Included on the current official Nougat update device list is the Moto G Play (4th Gen) - a handset with weaker specifications than both 'Osprey' and 'Merlin.'

    The issue is not technical limitation. You appear to have simply decided your last generation Moto G handsets are no longer important.

    The Moto G Play uses the exact same chipset and GPU as 'Osprey,' but runs at a lower CPU clock-speed. This profound hardware similarity suggests that in the process of making the update for Moto G Play; much of the work needed to produce a Nougat update for 'Osprey' would be completed.

    Moto X Play (also on the Nougat update list) uses the exact same chipset and GPU as Moto G Turbo Edition - making both devices Vulkan compatible.

    Moto G is a mid-range device, but your update support for it shrinks with each year. Why should people have confidence in your products when you so casually drop support for your best-selling phone?
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    Articles (1, 2) were written about Motorola / Lenovo over a year ago trying to resolve this situation. Things in no way improved, with continued job layoffs and device support has been dropped even more quickly.

    This is the first major petition (aimed at Motorola) on the subject of long-term update support. Maybe seeing 12,000 signatures will result in a policy rethink; perhaps now they can understand that they really have frustrated a lot of people and put them off their products.

    The petition also clearly shows the world how Motorola / Lenovo are behaving and that support for Osprey and Merlin was dropped solely to boost sales of the 4th Gen handsets. By ignoring this petition they are only causing further damage to their reputation.
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    17,500 signatures milestone has been reached and passed.
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    Reminder:

    This petition is about bringing attention to the fact that Motorola Mobility / Lenovo quietly changed their upgrade policy regarding the Moto G. Anyone who bought a Moto G (3rd Gen) - especially the 2GB RAM version or Turbo Edition - did so with the expectation that those handsets would get two major Android updates: Android Marshmallow and Nougat. They are also lying to customers by saying the hardware cannot support 'Nougat.'
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    Geeky Ranjit's 2016 OEM Review. Paraphrasing: Motorola launched so many phones I can't remember them all, software updates have slowed down and security fixes have stopped. Motorola's response? We make too many devices.
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