[PETITION] Ask OnePlus to implement Project Treble on currently supported devices.

[thes3usa]

Project Treble, as you've heard, is an amazing new update structure for Android devices and also can affect the speed and stability of Android development.
OnePlus has decided not to implement the current OnePlus devices with Project Treble, and they haven't given an explanation as to why they decided not to.
Project Treble can help the 3/3T as they are almost out of the OEM support days. If they do implement this, you may be looking at Android P ROMs for your device within days of the release of the AOSP commits.
Stand UP for your device and our responsibility as the community should be to bring support for our device for as long as possible. If OnePlus implements this, our device will be future proof for the aeons to come.
Your vote counts.
Change Org - https://www.change.org/p/carl-pei-w...-ask-oneplus-to-support-project-treble-in-oos
Do your part as a OnePlus 3/3T user and VOTE!

 

[suraj.das]

What's your drug of choice?

 

[thes3usa]

What's your drug of choice?

What do you mean?

 

[HampTheToker]

What do you mean?

He means that you must be high on something to think OP will give this petition any consideration. I don't think they will either, but I signed it anyway. It'd be nice if they did. It would certainly bolster consumer confidence in OnePlus if they supported such a game changing feature.

 

[zelendel]

He means that you must be high on something to think OP will give this petition any consideration. I don't think they will either, but I signed it anyway. It'd be nice if they did. It would certainly bolster consumer confidence in OnePlus if they supported such a game changing feature.

This really isnt that much of a game changer really. Dont let those on the portal make you think other wise. The rom developers are laughing at him as he has no real idea of how this is gonna work. In the end it will have 0 effect on roms or OEM updates.

 

[HampTheToker]

This really isnt that much of a game changer really. Dont let those on the portal make you think other wise. The rom developers are laughing at him as he has no real idea of how this is gonna work. In the end it will have 0 effect on roms or OEM updates.

How so?

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[zelendel]

How so?

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Well the only this this allows is updated things from the SOC manufacturers. Making things for the oem faster, if they ran aosp. But they dont. Updates will be just as long If not longer now due to this. Why you ask. Well now the OEM has to build their entire OS completely differently now. This is from OEM changing the entire OS framework as well as every file google makes.

As for custom roms. Well this really means nothing as most custom roms are already on newer patches then even what google has pushed to aosp.

 

[thes3usa]

Well the only this this allows is updated things from the SOC manufacturers. Making things for the oem faster, if they ran aosp. But they dont. Updates will be just as long If not longer now due to this. Why you ask. Well now the OEM has to build their entire OS completely differently now. This is from OEM changing the entire OS framework as well as every file google makes.

As for custom roms. Well this really means nothing as most custom roms are already on newer patches then even what google has pushed to aosp.

What? What even are you talking about? Project Treble is a huge step for AOSP ROM development.
Read here - https://www.xda-developers.com/stock-android-oreo-huawei-mate-9-project-treble/
Project Treble can bring quicker and more stable ROMs to devices faster and more efficiently.

 

[thes3usa]

He means that you must be high on something to think OP will give this petition any consideration. I don't think they will either, but I signed it anyway. It'd be nice if they did. It would certainly bolster consumer confidence in OnePlus if they supported such a game changing feature.

OnePlus's rule is to listen to their community yeah? With the petition over 5000 signatures and the link booming on r/OnePlus, it'll make them look bad if they ignore the petition.

 

[zelendel]

What? What even are you talking about? Project Treble is a huge step for AOSP ROM development.
Read here - https://www.xda-developers.com/stock-android-oreo-huawei-mate-9-project-treble/
Project Treble can bring quicker and more stable ROMs to devices faster and more efficiently.

Please. First of getting aosp to boot on that device is not that big of a deal. Rom devs do it all the time. The only reason those devices are left behind is because developers refuse to work with their chipset.



So explain how something only concerns the SOC manufacturer and the OEM will make roms faster?

If you really thiink this will make the OEMS update any more then they already do then you are sadly mistaken.


Thats the one that I mentioned that the devs are laughing at.

Also if you follow the thread linked you will see that things are still broken and causing issues. Nothing new.


Project treble means nothing for the average person and it is sad that the portal guys are not tech savvy, which leads them to making statements that are not even close to being true.

 

[thes3usa]

Please. First of getting aosp to boot on that device is not that big of a deal. Rom devs do it all the time. The only reason those devices are left behind is because developers refuse to work with their chipset.



So explain how something only concerns the SOC manufacturer and the OEM will make roms faster?

If you really thiink this will make the OEMS update any more then they already do then you are sadly mistaken.


Thats the one that I mentioned that the devs are laughing at.

Also if you follow the thread linked you will see that things are still broken and causing issues. Nothing new.


Project treble means nothing for the average person and it is sad that the portal guys are not tech savvy, which leads them to making statements that are not even close to being true.

By your judgement, what is not true as explained by the portal guys?
Isn't the whole point of Project Treble making it easier for devs to work with chipsets such as MediaTek or Kirin?
Project Treble third party development is still early, you need to give it time. It's not like every new feature in Android sprung up to be in the top places at once. Things will be broken, and the devs will find a solution.

Also, the point of Project Treble will be having unified ROM files for many devices in a category ( eg: Same SoC, same OEM, etc), and also where the device trees have not been released, unlike OnePlus, who has their Day One project.
By your logic, you're saying that there's no use for Project Treble, and it's all a complete waste of time.
But hey, it's your opinion .

But you do have a point, the portal is not to be trusted too far, and I would wait until a developer has shown that Project Treble has been put to good use on a device. But, that does not mean that Treble support should not be given to a device like ours that's super powerful.

 

[zelendel]

By your judgement, what is not true as explained by the portal guys?
Isn't the whole point of Project Treble making it easier for devs to work with chipsets such as MediaTek or Kirin?
Project Treble third party development is still early, you need to give it time. It's not like every new feature in Android sprung up to be in the top places at once. Things will be broken, and the devs will find a solution.

Also, the point of Project Treble will be having unified ROM files for many devices in a category ( eg: Same SoC, same OEM, etc), and also where the device trees have not been released, unlike OnePlus, who has their Day One project.
By your logic, you're saying that there's no use for Project Treble, and it's all a complete waste of time.
But hey, it's your opinion .

But you do have a point, the portal is not to be trusted too far, and I would wait until a developer has shown that Project Treble has been put to good use on a device. But, that does not mean that Treble support should not be given to a device like ours that's super powerful.

The portal guys will have you believe that this will help rom development. It wont.

The problem the devs have with the Kirin chip is that it is done in mostly Chinese and there is 0 documentation on how to work with the chips. as for MTK. Yeah that wont happen. There is a reason those chips are used mostly on devices that dont have google play services.

No that will not mean unified rom files. Another thing they lead to you believe. Even the dev doing the work (not the portal writer) has already said each device will still need its own kernel.


Project treble does have a use. Its just not something we can really use.

Project treble was made so OEM can update android without having to update their version of the android OS. Everything is between the SOC Oem and the device oem.

Now ask yourself this. What OEM is really gonna update a device without updating their OS version? Also you cant really seperate the OS framework from googles android and the OEM. This is due to the OEM changing or replacing completely every base android framework file that google releases. (another thing the portal has people not understanding. OEM do not skin android. They replace it with completely different versions of android. Like Linux distros.) Also even if you can boot AOSP on any device. Are you willing to lose all the features that Oem add to their devices? Take the one plus camera deal as a perfect example.

 

[lover]

Quote from other thread:
regarding Project, it targets all devices launched with Android 8.x also It has almost nothing to do with Oneplus, if Qualcomm update the reference msm8996 kernel to linux 4.4 then its trivial to port oneplus modifications over. Qualcomm has practically zero motivation to do this, infact it works against their interests.

So better petition Qualcomm