Petition to Unlock Bootloader.

vazersecurity

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If it is opened, would that mean root is possible?
Most certainly, installation through a custom recovery. Or if this site has what they claim to have, then this is another way to do it. The only way to root the current device I have (HTC One M8 (Verizon)) is to flash the update zip from Chainfire's SuperSU via custom recovery. But if you can't unlock the bootloader, which you currently can't, waiting on SunShine to update their stuff, then you can't root. Another way is if someone finds an exploit for either device.

LOLLIPOP:
Lollipop in my opinion isn't all it is cracked up to be. Sure, it is the biggest overhall since ICS, but it is making root harder to obtain. SEAndroid is becoming a major pain. Most root exploits have been patched. Towelroot was a major play in The Galaxy Note 3's root capabilities. Not even temp root can be obtained. Especially when accepting official updates (specifically from VZW and AT&T) it patches "all" root possibilities without an unlocked bootloader.

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You should most certainly be able to root Verizon Note 3 Lollipop with an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed.
 
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Most certainly, installation through a custom recovery. Or if this site has what they claim to have, then this is another way to do it. The only way to root the current device I have (HTC One M8 (Verizon)) is to flash the update zip from Chainfire's SuperSU via custom recovery. But if you can't unlock the bootloader, which you currently can't, waiting on SunShine to update their stuff. Another way is if someone finds an exploit for either device.

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You should most certainly be able to root Verizon Note 3 Lollipop with an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed.
If it is unlocked, then how do you install recovery without already being rooted? I fear that those unrootables on 4.4.4 will remain unrootable, after upgrading to 5.0, while those already rooted will benefit from the potentially unlocked bootloader.
 

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If it is unlocked, then how do you install recovery without already being rooted? I fear that those unrootables on 4.4.4 will remain unrootable, after upgrading to 5.0, while those already rooted will benefit from the potentially unlocked bootloader.
You would have to flash it via Odin. If the bootloader is unlocked, the recovery will be accepted by the bootloader, instead of being rejected by a locked bootloader. It is highly unlikely that the bootloader has been unlocked by Verizon. The recovery would have to be written for the Verizon Note 3, which I don't believe there is yet since this has been discovered very recently and no one has taken the time to write one up.

Screenshot of the recovery after Verizon Note 3 OTA lollipop update. See the "reboot to bootloader" option?

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This does not necessarily mean that the bootloader has been unlocked. If you try and flash a recovery via Odin, then you will find out there whether or not it has been unlocked, but like I said, it is highly unlikely.
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FLASH CUSTOM RECOVERY WITHOUT ODIN -- CMWiki // Heimdall // CWM HLTEVZW
Follow instructions to install recovery. You will most likely run into some sort of error.
BE AWARE There have been no tests on this. There is no stock recovery available at this time. You have to take full responsibility for your own actions. If it does successfully flash, it will most likely tell you that there is unauthorized software running on your device. There is not a way to fix this at the moment and the recovery will be unusable if flash succeeds and bootloader is unlocked restricting non SE Android recoveries.
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Most certainly, installation through a custom recovery. Or if this site has what they claim to have, then this is another way to do it. The only way to root the current device I have (HTC One M8 (Verizon)) is to flash the update zip from Chainfire's SuperSU via custom recovery. But if you can't unlock the bootloader, which you currently can't, waiting on SunShine to update their stuff, then you can't root. Another way is if someone finds an exploit for either device.

LOLLIPOP:
Lollipop in my opinion isn't all it is cracked up to be. Sure, it is the biggest overhall since ICS, but it is making root harder to obtain. SEAndroid is becoming a major pain. Most root exploits have been patched. Towelroot was a major play in The Galaxy Note 3's root capabilities. Not even temp root can be obtained. Especially when accepting official updates (specifically from VZW and AT&T) it patches "all" root possibilities without an unlocked bootloader.

BACK ON TOPIC:
You should most certainly be able to root Verizon Note 3 Lollipop with an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed.
I hate that the only reason you bashing the lollipop update is due to security, if you want a device that is open then don't buy from Verizon but don't bash Google for making a tough OS, I rather have a safe phone then one open to vulns.
 
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vazersecurity

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I hate that the only reason you bashing the lollipop update is due to security, if you want a device that is open then don't buy from Verizon but don't bash Google for making a tough OS, I rather have a safe phone then one open to vulns.
You do have a point.. But it's not what I meant to imply. Google is of course in the right. It's Verizon I don't agree with and I think most people would disagree along side me. The current company I am with prevents me from leaving Verizon. And I blame Verizon for not allowing us to gain root because of their blocking of HTCDev unlocking. Instead we have to use SunShine (which is no issue, accept for the fact that it doesn't currently work with the 5.0.1 OTA) but makes it more difficult. And I also agree with you on the secure android part about no vulns, but only to a point. I mainly worry about unauthorized remote access to my device. Others I am sure to catch. And most I have to authorize or its because I, myself, am trying to break into MY OWN PHONE.
 

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You do have a point.. But it's not what I meant to imply. Google is of course in the right. It's Verizon I don't agree with and I think most people would disagree along side me. The current company I am with prevents me from leaving Verizon. And I blame Verizon for not allowing us to gain root because of their blocking of HTCDev unlocking. Instead we have to use SunShine (which is no issue, accept for the fact that it doesn't currently work with the 5.0.1 OTA) but makes it more difficult. And I also agree with you on the secure android part about no vulns, but only to a point. I mainly worry about unauthorized remote access to my device. Others I am sure to catch. And most I have to authorize or its because I, myself, am trying to break into MY OWN PHONE.
From a biz standing point it makes sense, think about it like this say Verizon opened up all their android phones now customers can do anything to their phones. Now you have people breaking them and calling Verizon for help and getting angry because their phone doesn't work. That's the only reason, not because they want us to suffer but they're protecting customers from them selves
 

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From a biz standing point it makes sense, think about it like this say Verizon opened up all their android phones now customers can do anything to their phones. Now you have people breaking them and calling Verizon for help and getting angry because their phone doesn't work. That's the only reason, not because they want us to suffer but they're protecting customers from them selves
I see what you are also saying. I understand that, but everyone still hates Verizon for that very reason... you can't unlock their phones. When the manufacturer provides a way to do it, why would it be a bad thing? Most of us are developers / testers / experienced users anyway. There will be those people that will softbrick their phones and call Verizon or HTC, but that's always going to happen, even on a non-rooted unlocked phone is going to have problems, it is always going to happen; people will always call. If those people want help, they should come here, not Verizon. By blocking HTCDev and root, they reduce that number of calls, yes, but l think it would only increase a little bit. Look at T-Mobile, or Sprint, their phones are unlockable, we should ask them how many calls they get from people that have broken their phones because they are playing around with the firmware and flashing ROMs. With S-OFF, you can do almost anything to your device, it is way easy to get out of a bad situation than with a locked phone. You feel?

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Sorry about mentioning S-OFF, I forgot I was in the Note 3 forums.
 
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Verizon just seems to tolerate me

From a biz standing point it makes sense, think about it like this say Verizon opened up all their android phones now customers can do anything to their phones. Now you have people breaking them and calling Verizon for help and getting angry because their phone doesn't work. That's the only reason, not because they want us to suffer but they're protecting customers from them selves
I have been using over 15g and was at 22gigs last month on my unlimited plan. Of course all my Service Mode settings are tweeked. Even with 1 bar and VPN I can still watch Netflix. I agree Verizon sucks. They think I suck. I pay my bill. They honor the contract. (The FCC might have something to do with that!) Typically I get a willing Verizon tech when I can't fix it from XDA info. Of course I do have to put on my skirt and cry like a little girl. They can't see me. I hope!
 

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I hear that we are a minority terrorizing the majority. Happens all the time to me. I make decisions based on the Rules. I keep my word and obey the Rules. I avoid the wolves and sheep herder. They change the Rules. The sheep follow. They think that we are bad sheep. They are wrong. We aren't sheep.
 

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I it is possible to unlock the bootloader.How it can be rooted in China !!!!!!

I know a guy who change the language it means he have a way to root the note 3 Verizon and I have a friennd how have a rooted note 3 sm-n900v 4.4.4 .But he get it from China so they can root it in China . So why there is nobody can do it here in xda or just try to figure the method to do so.


Note: he change the language for the note 3 that it is not built in with the system.


Plz somebody findout a way.
 
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