If it is opened, would that mean root is possible?I updated OTA lollipop 5.0 this morning on my SM-N900V. They've opened the bootloader, it seems? It's available through Recovery. There's an option to boot to it.
If it is opened, would that mean root is possible?I updated OTA lollipop 5.0 this morning on my SM-N900V. They've opened the bootloader, it seems? It's available through Recovery. There's an option to boot to it.
Most certainly, installation through a custom recovery. Or if this site has what they claim to have, then this is another way to do it. The only way to root the current device I have (HTC One M8 (Verizon)) is to flash the update zip from Chainfire's SuperSU via custom recovery. But if you can't unlock the bootloader, which you currently can't, waiting on SunShine to update their stuff, then you can't root. Another way is if someone finds an exploit for either device.If it is opened, would that mean root is possible?
If it is unlocked, then how do you install recovery without already being rooted? I fear that those unrootables on 4.4.4 will remain unrootable, after upgrading to 5.0, while those already rooted will benefit from the potentially unlocked bootloader.Most certainly, installation through a custom recovery. Or if this site has what they claim to have, then this is another way to do it. The only way to root the current device I have (HTC One M8 (Verizon)) is to flash the update zip from Chainfire's SuperSU via custom recovery. But if you can't unlock the bootloader, which you currently can't, waiting on SunShine to update their stuff. Another way is if someone finds an exploit for either device.
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You should most certainly be able to root Verizon Note 3 Lollipop with an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed.
You would have to flash it via Odin. If the bootloader is unlocked, the recovery will be accepted by the bootloader, instead of being rejected by a locked bootloader. It is highly unlikely that the bootloader has been unlocked by Verizon. The recovery would have to be written for the Verizon Note 3, which I don't believe there is yet since this has been discovered very recently and no one has taken the time to write one up.If it is unlocked, then how do you install recovery without already being rooted? I fear that those unrootables on 4.4.4 will remain unrootable, after upgrading to 5.0, while those already rooted will benefit from the potentially unlocked bootloader.
This does not necessarily mean that the bootloader has been unlocked. If you try and flash a recovery via Odin, then you will find out there whether or not it has been unlocked, but like I said, it is highly unlikely.Screenshot of the recovery after Verizon Note 3 OTA lollipop update. See the "reboot to bootloader" option?
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Why the random change I wonder...?The bootloader is not unlocked...this has also been reported in the Note 4 forum after their LP update.
I hate that the only reason you bashing the lollipop update is due to security, if you want a device that is open then don't buy from Verizon but don't bash Google for making a tough OS, I rather have a safe phone then one open to vulns.Most certainly, installation through a custom recovery. Or if this site has what they claim to have, then this is another way to do it. The only way to root the current device I have (HTC One M8 (Verizon)) is to flash the update zip from Chainfire's SuperSU via custom recovery. But if you can't unlock the bootloader, which you currently can't, waiting on SunShine to update their stuff, then you can't root. Another way is if someone finds an exploit for either device.
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Lollipop in my opinion isn't all it is cracked up to be. Sure, it is the biggest overhall since ICS, but it is making root harder to obtain. SEAndroid is becoming a major pain. Most root exploits have been patched. Towelroot was a major play in The Galaxy Note 3's root capabilities. Not even temp root can be obtained. Especially when accepting official updates (specifically from VZW and AT&T) it patches "all" root possibilities without an unlocked bootloader.
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You should most certainly be able to root Verizon Note 3 Lollipop with an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed.
You do have a point.. But it's not what I meant to imply. Google is of course in the right. It's Verizon I don't agree with and I think most people would disagree along side me. The current company I am with prevents me from leaving Verizon. And I blame Verizon for not allowing us to gain root because of their blocking of HTCDev unlocking. Instead we have to use SunShine (which is no issue, accept for the fact that it doesn't currently work with the 5.0.1 OTA) but makes it more difficult. And I also agree with you on the secure android part about no vulns, but only to a point. I mainly worry about unauthorized remote access to my device. Others I am sure to catch. And most I have to authorize or its because I, myself, am trying to break into MY OWN PHONE.I hate that the only reason you bashing the lollipop update is due to security, if you want a device that is open then don't buy from Verizon but don't bash Google for making a tough OS, I rather have a safe phone then one open to vulns.
From a biz standing point it makes sense, think about it like this say Verizon opened up all their android phones now customers can do anything to their phones. Now you have people breaking them and calling Verizon for help and getting angry because their phone doesn't work. That's the only reason, not because they want us to suffer but they're protecting customers from them selvesYou do have a point.. But it's not what I meant to imply. Google is of course in the right. It's Verizon I don't agree with and I think most people would disagree along side me. The current company I am with prevents me from leaving Verizon. And I blame Verizon for not allowing us to gain root because of their blocking of HTCDev unlocking. Instead we have to use SunShine (which is no issue, accept for the fact that it doesn't currently work with the 5.0.1 OTA) but makes it more difficult. And I also agree with you on the secure android part about no vulns, but only to a point. I mainly worry about unauthorized remote access to my device. Others I am sure to catch. And most I have to authorize or its because I, myself, am trying to break into MY OWN PHONE.
I see what you are also saying. I understand that, but everyone still hates Verizon for that very reason... you can't unlock their phones. When the manufacturer provides a way to do it, why would it be a bad thing? Most of us are developers / testers / experienced users anyway. There will be those people that will softbrick their phones and call Verizon or HTC, but that's always going to happen, even on a non-rooted unlocked phone is going to have problems, it is always going to happen; people will always call. If those people want help, they should come here, not Verizon. By blocking HTCDev and root, they reduce that number of calls, yes, but l think it would only increase a little bit. Look at T-Mobile, or Sprint, their phones are unlockable, we should ask them how many calls they get from people that have broken their phones because they are playing around with the firmware and flashing ROMs. With S-OFF, you can do almost anything to your device, it is way easy to get out of a bad situation than with a locked phone. You feel?From a biz standing point it makes sense, think about it like this say Verizon opened up all their android phones now customers can do anything to their phones. Now you have people breaking them and calling Verizon for help and getting angry because their phone doesn't work. That's the only reason, not because they want us to suffer but they're protecting customers from them selves
I have been using over 15g and was at 22gigs last month on my unlimited plan. Of course all my Service Mode settings are tweeked. Even with 1 bar and VPN I can still watch Netflix. I agree Verizon sucks. They think I suck. I pay my bill. They honor the contract. (The FCC might have something to do with that!) Typically I get a willing Verizon tech when I can't fix it from XDA info. Of course I do have to put on my skirt and cry like a little girl. They can't see me. I hope!From a biz standing point it makes sense, think about it like this say Verizon opened up all their android phones now customers can do anything to their phones. Now you have people breaking them and calling Verizon for help and getting angry because their phone doesn't work. That's the only reason, not because they want us to suffer but they're protecting customers from them selves
Simple words: VERIZON NOTE 3's can NOT be rooted because Samsung and Verizon has locked them to prevent that.I don't gat it can somebody explain with a simple words!!!!!