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_Negan_

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What we've done means that 803 and pos9002 have exactly the same hardware?

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Well, it's back now, but it had vanished earlier today :)


@memeliv: Could you please have a look at the color temperature setting and compare "Normal" and "Warm"? My feeling is that both is mixed up with the x03 firmware. For sure "Warm" looks colder than "Normal". It's not a big deal for me as I use custom white balance settings anyway. Just curious if I'm the only one who sees this.
Yes, in my opinion cold is normal, warm is cold and cold is warm
 

BigBlue007

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Yes, that's what I think too. Thanks!

What we've done means that 803 and pos9002 have exactly the same hardware?
Not really. Obviously there are differences because with the new FW the old platform (not only 9002 but also 873 and 973) don't show certain menu items (like that new "reality blabla" thing in the contrast menu). What it does mean is that the new FW is designed to work on both the old and new platform, and maybe Philips will bring the new FW to the old platform officially in the future.

Unfortunately I still see no way to find out whether the (IMHO) most important difference of the new platform - HDR10+ - is available on the old platform when using the new FW.
 
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Yes, that's what I think too. Thanks!


Not really. Obviously there are differences because with the new FW the old platform (not only 9002 but also 873 and 973) don't show certain menu items (like that new "reality blabla" thing in the contrast menu). What it does mean is that the new FW is designed to work on both the old and new platform, and maybe Philips will bring the new FW to the old platform officially in the future.

Unfortunately I still see no way to find out whether the (IMHO) most important difference of the new platform - HDR10+ - is available on the old platform when using the new FW.

Hi,
I was following this topic since a few weeks when I saw your firmware discussions on 55POS9002/12 then I would like to share with you my observation. Even if they are moreless the same as yours:

I installed first version 105.1.2.13 through USB with the upgrade_loader.pkg, worked without any issue, only had to reconfigure the TV and reinstall applications. Then I upgraded to 105.1.2.17 with the upg file from the upgrade menu.

I didn't notice major differences compared to official firmware:
Pros: A few menu/settings added, the ones you already described (color spectrum settings, dolby digital plus audio format, football ambilight style..).
Cons: With the official 55POS9002/12 firmware I was able to connect my bluetooth headphones by using the application "bluetooth pair". It doesn't work with OLED803/903 firmware. The headphone is detected, I can do bluetooth pairing but it won't connect to the two different headphones tested. :(

I was not able to test HDR10+ compatibility due to the lack of HDR10+ sources.

After a whole day of evaluation, with my usage, my conclusion is that today the Pro/Cons balance is in favor of the official firmware. Then I reverted to TPM171E_003.000.246.005 with exactly the same procedure (upgrade_loader.pkg) and without any issue.


Good thing to know is that the operation is reversible too. ;)

my two cents.. :)
 

_Negan_

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Hi,
I was following this topic since a few weeks when I saw your firmware discussions on 55POS9002/12 then I would like to share with you my observation. Even if they are moreless the same as yours:

I installed first version 105.1.2.13 through USB with the upgrade_loader.pkg, worked without any issue, only had to reconfigure the TV and reinstall applications. Then I upgraded to 105.1.2.17 with the upg file from the upgrade menu.

I didn't notice major differences compared to official firmware:
Pros: A few menu/settings added, the ones you already described (color spectrum settings, dolby digital plus audio format, football ambilight style..).
Cons: With the official 55POS9002/12 firmware I was able to connect my bluetooth headphones by using the application "bluetooth pair". It doesn't work with OLED803/903 firmware. The headphone is detected, I can do bluetooth pairing but it won't connect to the two different headphones tested. :(

I was not able to test HDR10+ compatibility due to the lack of HDR10+ sources.

After a whole day of evaluation, with my usage, my conclusion is that today the Pro/Cons balance is in favor of the official firmware. Then I reverted to TPM171E_003.000.246.005 with exactly the same procedure (upgrade_loader.pkg) and without any issue.


Good thing to know is that the operation is reversible too. ;)

my two cents.. :)
Same here for my Bluetooth speaker but i prefer the more smoothness of the 803/903 fw than the bt speaker.
 

frxx696

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Sep 21, 2018
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Hi everybody,
I have Philips Tv 50PUS7303 for a few months now and I'm very satisfied except one problem which occurred few weeks ago. Tv randomly goes to shop mode (you cann't change to home mode without restarting tv) and then you lose isf calibration settings. HDMI also not working in shop mode. If anybody have solution I'll be gratefull. I update tv to last firmware 105.001.002.013. Here is the video file
h**s://uploadfiles.io/xf0x0
 

MareleVlad

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We also don't have picture in picture :))))) I had a CRT TV with picture in picture functionality between TV and Composit, and this "smart tv" can't. :) Philips, the best software developers on this earth. PS: Sony Android TV with one single tv tunner has picture in picture functionality between TV and external sources. How can Sony do it and Philips can't, is beyond me.
 

NOABOU

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Philips 32PFS6402 Android TV

Hi everybody,

A new member here... I already started a new thread but was recommended to try this one by a more seasoned xda user.

So, here's my question: Does anybody happen to know what is the SOC on the 32PFS6402 Android TV? It says MediaTek MT5800 but I can't find out if it's A9...A53 or what. Any ideas how capable that TV would be for running Android games?
 

frxx696

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Sep 21, 2018
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Hi everybody,
I have Philips Tv 50PUS7303 for a few months now and I'm very satisfied except one problem which occurred few weeks ago. Tv randomly goes to shop mode (you cann't change to home mode without restarting tv) and then you lose isf calibration settings. HDMI also not working in shop mode. If anybody have solution I'll be gratefull. I update tv to last firmware 105.001.002.013. Here is the video file
h**s://uploadfiles.io/xf0x0

Anybody have solution for this problem. Please..
 

andellove

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Jan 24, 2018
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hi,

i have philips 55PUS7503 but when i manaul install (some) apps ( google playstore apps) but not installed via tv ( because not shown) so i download via smartphone and send the apk to the tv and installed, but i wont appear on the home apps but when i want to open the app , i must go to apps management and open it there and not shown in the home apps appearance.

its the app sunatv iptv ?

the strange thing is that some apps are shown but some not in the home apps page. is there an reason or option to add or let the not shown apps in the home page?

sorry for my bad englisch
 

nullbert

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hi,

i have philips 55PUS7503 but when i manaul install (some) apps ( google playstore apps) but not installed via tv ( because not shown) so i download via smartphone and send the apk to the tv and installed, but i wont appear on the home apps but when i want to open the app , i must go to apps management and open it there and not shown in the home apps appearance.

its the app sunatv iptv ?

the strange thing is that some apps are shown but some not in the home apps page. is there an reason or option to add or let the not shown apps in the home page?

sorry for my bad englisch
The apps don't have leanback support. Which is one of the reasons why they're not in the TVs Play Store. You can use the app TV App Repo to generate a Leanback shortcut to the apk.
 

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    Guys! To disable Philips Collections bar or also known as Philips Apps Tray at top of Android TV leanback launcher. All you have to do is find leanbackcustomizer in System Apps or Running Apps and turn off its notifications which can be turned off at button of the menu when you click on the service.

    I couldn't find a single source which mentioned these steps to take to disable Philips bloatware. I figured these out on own. I am not aware of any other methods that has the same results.

    Enjoy your less of a pain Android TV by Philips

    Hope this helps.

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    To disable recommendations, disable org.droidtv.nett_launcherapp in system apps or running apps. Hope this also helps debloat your Philips Android TV to a manageable level. However, this doesn't get rid of the recommendations field only apps that shows up.
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    firmware decryption + rooting attempts

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    WARNING: don't look at the following information nor try to use any of it if you have no clue about linux or android as it is most likely that you are going to break your expensive gadget. For every one else: don't blame philips if you brick your device -> think before actually trying. If you post about vulnerabilities and stuff better cover your ass - who knows what the legal department of philips thinks about your cool stuff.
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    So as you decided to ignore my warning, here we go:

    I already spent plenty of time researching the internals of the device in order to get root privileges. Unluckily without the final breakthrough - but at least I found out some very interesting details.

    You might ask what those extended privileges should be good for? Well in my eyes android - a project available as open source with uncountable possibilities for developers and users - should not be closed down by profit oriented manufacturers. As those are often forcing the users into their own "crappy" software without given them any chance to escape. I like to develop at system base, use the underlying linux tools and most important check what the manufacturer does (behind my back) in my own living room. Hell I bought this expensive device and have no idea and can't nearly control what is sent to Philips nor Google.

    1. I wrote a tool to decrypt the official firmware. It was created via reverse-engineering the "upgrade.bin" arm-file (thanks for the trace, snoerenberg).

    Some interesting details about the used cryptography:
    - openssl library functions
    - used algorithm: aes-256 in CBC mode
    - the encryption key is generated via "EVP_BytesToKey" using only the first 127 byte of the keyfile + an eight byte salt found near the beginning of every input file

    Source-Code: attachment or pastebin_com / z3nA2r3J
    maybe mirroring this paste and the source would be a good idea (Google for the HASH if link is down)

    The decrypted firmware archive contains the following files:

    boot.img.zip: kernel + initrd + ramdisk (unknown file format)
    bootloader.zip: bootloader (unknown file format)
    tzk_normal.img.zip: ? maybe recovery (unknown file format)

    user_setting.zip: content of /user_setting
    system.img.zip: content of /system (ext4-img)
    firmware.img.zip: content of /firmware (ext4-img)

    BackEndBin.zip, EdidBin.zip, fpgaUhdBin.zip, RougeBin.zip: different binary files - supposedly firmware for these components

    As you see I was not able to extract the most interesting part (kernel + ramdisk) - Hopefully some android experts could help!

    The current and some older firmware files could be downloaded at philips_samipupu_com (thanks for hosting)

    2. General information:
    - Kernel version: Linux version 3.4.70+ ([email protected]) (gcc version 4.6.x-google 20120106 (prerelease) (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Nov 14 01:52:21 IST 2014
    - Kernel cmd-line: androidboot.hardware=AND1E quiet lpj=11935744 root=/dev/ram0 androidboot.console=ttyS0 console=ttyS0,115200 init=/init vmalloc=448M quiet macaddr=00:00:00:00:00:00 emmc_ts.dev_id=1 emmc_ts.size=16777216 emmc_ts.erasesize=524288 emmc_ts.writesize=512
    - lsmod:
    usb8797 359014 3 - Live 0x00000000
    usb97mlan 290809 1 usb8797, Live 0x00000000 (P)
    mbtusbchar 52685 0 - Live 0x00000000
    usbfwdnld 8530 0 - Live 0x00000000
    fusion 96777 0 - Live 0x00000000 (O)
    tpvinput 7132 2 - Live 0x00000000 (O)
    trcext 333860 0 - Live 0x00000000 (O)
    gal3d 161434 16 - Live 0x00000000
    amp_core 72528 2 - Live 0x00000000 (O)
    tzlogger 1199 0 - Live 0x00000000 (O)
    tzd 32013 30 amp_core,tzlogger, Live 0x00000000 (O)

    3. The trcext module seems to be very interesting as a short look with a disassembler revealed that it might be able to read and manipulate process memory of any process. Maybe someone good at kernel-drivers could take a look?

    4. There are two world-readable directories containing very interesting information:
    - /data/debugdump: stack-traces, process-lists, short memory excerpts based on crashes of the native binaries (could be very helpful for exploiting)
    - /data/anr: davlik crash-dumps of android applications

    5. There are 3 SGUID and 1 SUID binaries (visible):
    -rwxr-s--- root inet 5500 netcfg
    -rwxr-sr-x root net_raw 26072 ping
    -rwsr-s--- root shell 9464 run-as

    6. The recovery menu which could be used to install a "new" firmware if the device does not boot properly could be reached via the following steps:
    - unplug the power
    - press and hold the joypad on the backside of the TV downwards
    - replug
    - release the joypad after 10 sec

    7. There is a Customer-Service-Menu at “123654” which contains read only information about the current firmware and so one. However there is also the real service menu (062?96i) which could be used for much more things. But you need to be really careful with this, i already managed to break booting without changing something important.

    8. The settings-app calls the "su" command inside of CSMActivity. If this is no obsolete debug code (i was not able to trigger this part yet) than there could be a "su" inside /sbin. The Manifest also shows this strange "org.droidtv.tv.tv_power_system_access" permission. Therefore i tried to write my own app with the same permission and call "su" which did however not work out (even if I use the same namespace org.droidtv.?)

    9. Every time you pop in an usb stick android creates an backup folder on it. The filenames are "hidden" via base64 and there are some junk bytes at the beginning of the files which you need to crop in order to read them. However the content is quite boring mostly some sqlite3 databases with configuration parameters.

    10. By default the usb sticks you plug in is read-only for user apps. However there is in option in the settings to re-format it. This will result in an XFS formatted, read-write mounted stick where you could even outsource your apps.

    11. There is a soap (http) service running on port 1925 which is used by the philips remote app and allows different things for example starting one of the installed apps. More details could be found if you decompile the XTV-App.


    Hope some of you guys could do something fancy with those information.
    @snoerenberg(xda): did you manage to send commands over your cable yet - If you do rooting should be quite easy from this point (maybe /system/bin/run-as).

    Cheers,
    5003b4d49cbf7916123271b7b1918f123cca0c09bf1428f4398257751ac6570c

    ps: some of the information were dumped on an older firmware and some with the current one
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    Steps for install any APK in 2014 Philips Android TV AND1E

    Hello,

    For install any application in 2014 Philips Android TV AND1E :

    1º You must download "Developer Settings" from "Google Play" and enable "Usb Debugging" in "Developer options".
    2º Connect ADB via WIFI -> adb start-server" , adb connect IP:5555
    3º Install APK -> adb install "app.apk" (download apk from google play with evozzi apk downloader in web or in chrome extension)

    I've tried it in 55PUS8909 and it works!.

    I've tried for root framaroot, towelroot and vroot and exploits not run.
    I've tried all for "Unknown Sources" and nothing.

    sorry for my english....thanks, regards!
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    [GUIDE] How to root 2015 Philips Android TV

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