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tmzbeme

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got phone yesterday, did some quick tests with stock camera, open camera and snap camera. Tried many scenarios, results varied but in general for shooting in jpg mode open camera gave the best results while snap camera gave the best results for shooting in raw, marginally better than snap, if not the same. You can't really see the detail here because i don't know why the hoster shrunk the pics, i did upload them at full size, but open camera had the most detail with the least overprocessing and best color accuracy.
*All settings were at default with the highest jpeg quality setting for the third party apps, this is not configureable in stock*
Shooting in raw with snap or open camera gave superb results, much better than stock.
For some reason the stock camera gave the best results for night shots.
In terms of video quality open camera was best in terms of detail, smoothness and stabilization at 15mbs 1080p.
Snap was best at 16mbs 4k HEVC, excellent video quality, but without stabilization unfortunately.
The photo quality is definitely not great compared to my old phones, but the images are however sharp, well saturated and bright.
The sensors are likely not the best.


stock (shot at 20mp resized to 12)


snap camera


open camera


snap camera raw converted and color balanced
 
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got phone yesterday, did some quick tests with stock camera, open camera and snap camera. Tried many scenarios, results varied but in general for shooting in jpg mode open camera gave the best results while snap camera gave the best results for shooting in raw, marginally better than snap, if not the same. You can't really see the detail here because i don't know why the hoster shrunk the pics, i did upload them at full size, but open camera had the most detail with the least overprocessing and best color accuracy.
Shooting in raw with snap or open camera gave superb results, much better than stock.
For some reason the stock camera gave the best results for night shots.
In terms of video quality open camera was best in terms of detail, smoothness and stabilization at 15mbs 1080p.
Snap was best at 16mbs 4k HEVC, excellent video quality, but without stabilization unfortunately.
The photo quality is definitely not great compared to my old phones, but the images are however sharp, well saturated and bright.
The sensors are likely not the best.
snap camera raw converted and color balanced
after reading this post , i try OPEN CAMERA .
take more than 10 photo with different situation and compare side by side
in all condition stock camera was the winner. (i had the same test with samsung phones and still stock camera app was the winner)

stock camera has 3 colour mode . standard , vivid and smoot
ALWAYS use standard color. in vivid mode photo quality is bad.
 
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tmzbeme

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after reading this post , i try OPEN CAMERA .
take more than 10 photo with different situation and compare side by side
in all condition stock camera was the winner. (i had the same test with samsung phones and still stock camera app was the winner)

stock camera has 3 colour mode . standard , vivid and smoot
ALWAYS use standard color. in vivid mode photo quality is bad.
well the stock camera has the advantage of being able to shoot at 20mp, but did you set the jpeg quality in open camera to 100%? It makes a difference.
 

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I've noticed the raw don't seem as crisp as the jpeg ones, maybe the camera doesn't do its finishing things to the raw but I've stopped using that feature now because even Paintshop couldn't improve the raw images
 

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I really like night shot mode, the results are great with a tripod or just resting the phone on something... Don't know a phone that produces this kind of photos, since it's more than one can do with promode. So little noise in the pictures it's ridiculous.

This was taken at night, the house above the street light is actually really dark to the eye and the sky was pitch black



 
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well the stock camera has the advantage of being able to shoot at 20mp, but did you set the jpeg quality in open camera to 100%? It makes a difference.
yes. 100%.

and i compare 12 and 20 MP with stock camera. 12 MP has better color and same detail. so i use 12MP after this test

and consider , in your test when you resize photo from 20 to 12 , you make photos unsharp and blury. you must take all photos in 12 to compare
 
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So little noise in the pictures it's ridiculous.[/IMG]
That's exactly what bother me. Your photo are really pretty, but, for me, the white wall is far too clean to be real. But meybe in real life it's really that clean, but I can't even get some feel of texture from the photo.
But well, maybe I'm just too used to grany photo and I am biased in that regard.

In an other hand, I find the sunset photo in auto mode really good, never got this kind of result with a phone, with a sun perfectly distinct:

 

0alfred0

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That's exactly what bother me. Your photo are really pretty, but, for me, the white wall is far too clean to be real. But meybe in real life it's really that clean, but I can't even get some feel of texture from the photo.
But well, maybe I'm just too used to grany photo and I am biased in that regard.

In an other hand, I find the sunset photo in auto mode really good, never got this kind of result with a phone, with a sun perfectly distinct:
It's the wall.. it think textures are captured very well look at these bricks at night time with HDR mode
 

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Loving the quality of the front and rear cameras for stills. But for video at 1080p I am finding the video capture very over sharpened. Anyone else think this. Here are some examples of camera though and think it takes really accurate nice stills. Front camera is really good after coming from a Samsung. Yes I was using beauty mode.... Level 10 ?
 

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I might have found a workaround for those not liking the overprocessed look of the auto mode pictures: Enable wide aperture mode and put the aperture to max (16). Somehow this seems to force lower levels of sharpening.

But I have just stumbled over that in artificial light indoors late at night (my reasoning was to find any other mode in the stock camera app that might override the standard sharpening level). More testing needs to be done. So far I like there being less artifacts and the more natural feel (although this can be subtle).

In some conditions - especially when there are clearly defined lines like bold text in the picture, the normal mode can bring out more detail (a shelf full of books from about 2 m distance is such a case). So this might not be an improvement in all scenes. Also the wide aperture mode sometimes struggles with highly textured surfaces with no bigger objects (f.e. my woodchip wallpaper and my carpet - it outright smears the details in parts of the picture, maybe because it has no object to put in the center of the artificial aperture processing).

An other downside: In lower light with wider aperture mode you lose the automatic improvement of a scene (the one where you are prompted to hold the camera still), which really can make a huge difference.

I am interested, what you find.

Edit: So far I find the difference in bright daylight rather small. This seems to help most in lower light scenes, when the software tries too hard do pull details where are none/few.
 
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In this comparison Mate 10 Pro is better than S9+.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQeRWQdIWxU
I love the mate 9 that I have, and I am looking forward to possibly getting the mate 20 next year. But, I think that guy has a bit of bias towards the mate 10. A lot of the photos he claims the mate 10 won were subjective and I wouldn't say that the mate 10 pro has THE best camera out there, it is in the top 5 and is very capable. Not really "clear" winner though.
 

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I had my Huawei Mate 10PRo for the last 2 weeks now. So far I am very happy with camera although it's not perfect. In fact I am surprised how well at times it can pick up absolutely spot on White Balance and especially in artificial light conditions. Bokeh is very nice though at the beginning I was sceptical however later I was proved wrong. I don't like forced sharpening Huawei should drop it like Samsung did on S9. HDR is just sn average. I would also be happy if they at least allow to disable AI feature on the camera because I prefer full control.
Last week I had a shoot out in London you can take a look here :
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12rMtfioFhzprCXxkaSuzZTxd3gXS9xza?usp=sharing

#Mate10ProInsidersUK #mate10pro #TheInsidersUK
 

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I am really enjoying this camera. I've never had a dual lens camera so this has been fun to mess around with for photos.

The 1080p video doesn't seem all that sharp to me when played on something other than the phone but the 4K looks so nice both off the phone and on it.

The monochrome sensor works great as both a solo and mix and although the slow-mo quality is pretty low (but still cool) the light painting/long exposure works well consistantly with just a tiny amount of pixelation.

https://lensdump.com/a/8Wq9a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYH-4kGHhT8


I've never used this image host before - it doesn't compress images but seems you need to click a couple of times to get the full picture.


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nebulaoperator

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do you guys use 20 or 12 mp? any cons on 20?
I would say 12MP is probably best option for over all photography but if you have good lighting conditions and need extra pixels for large print then go for 20MP. You can also zoom in more on 20MP after shot and do more cropping. Other han that 12MP is already an overkill for social media .
 
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