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[Lokifish Marz]

please delete

 

[Lokifish Marz]

please delete

 

[mafiarock93]

this will bring us full funtion of ubuntu?

 

[djluis48]

Interesting. Im going to try this. Thanks buddy.

Sent from my MB860 using XDA

 

[Lokifish Marz]

this will bring us full funtion of ubuntu?

Define "full function". If you mean, can you upgrade to Ubuntu 12, no. If you mean, can you run Unity, no. If you mean being able to to almost everything you would do on a regular PC running Ubuntu, yes. Granted there is no support for NTFS drives or DVD burners and things of that sort but look at the software list. Short of playing Halo, it covers over 90% of what people use a computer for.

Here's a list of what I use it for;
Web browsing (posting this using webtop)
Watch movies (pretty much any flash video site works)
Watch Hulu (no app needed and am infact watching Hulu right now)
Listen to music (local or streaming)
Create and edit documents, speadsheets, powerpoint
Near Photoshop level of image editing
Edit audio files
ROM work
Chat
Torrents
Gaming (both linux games and using emulators)
Website updates and maintenance
Writing and editing scripts

What I can't do with it or haven't tried yet;
SBF flashing (haven't tried)
Working in ADB and fastboot (haven't tried)
Watch Netflix (there's an app for that)
Run a current version of Chrome or Firefox (this only has Firefox 8 right now)
Kernel compiles (make is a bit old in ubuntop)

I hope this helps.

 

[mafiarock93]

Define "full function". If you mean, can you upgrade to Ubuntu 12, no. If you mean, can you run Unity, no. If you mean being able to to almost everything you would do on a regular PC running Ubuntu, yes. Granted there is no support for NTFS drives or DVD burners and things of that sort but look at the software list. Short of playing Halo, it covers over 90% of what people use a computer for.

Here's a list of what I use it for;
Web browsing (posting this using webtop)
Watch movies (pretty much any flash video site works)
Watch Hulu (no app needed and am infact watching Hulu right now)
Listen to music (local or streaming)
Create and edit documents, speadsheets, powerpoint
Near Photoshop level of image editing
Edit audio files
ROM work
Chat
Torrents
Gaming (both linux games and using emulators)
Website updates and maintenance
Writing and editing scripts

What I can't do with it or haven't tried yet;
SBF flashing (haven't tried)
Working in ADB and fastboot (haven't tried)
Watch Netflix (there's an app for that)
Run a current version of Chrome or Firefox (this only has Firefox 8 right now)
Kernel compiles (make is a bit old in ubuntop)

I hope this helps.

tks for the tips ^^

 

[liquidhead]

Firefox wont connect to the internet

Thanks for your hard work with this.

After installing - firefox will not connect to the internet - despite rebooting to recovery and wiping the cache

Please can you help

PS. webtop2sd does not detect my sd card either so I cant enable the other apps on my atrix

Thanks

 

[Lokifish Marz]

Thanks for your hard work with this.

After installing - firefox will not connect to the internet - despite rebooting to recovery and wiping the cache

Please can you help

PS. webtop2sd does not detect my sd card either so I cant enable the other apps on my atrix

Thanks

"webtop2sd is required for Atrix users because there is only 1.3MB free space otherwise"

First hit up the webtop2sd thread to figure out what's up because with it working, Ubuntop won't work.

 

[o-marshmallow]

Thanks for your post! It is good to see that there are WebTop developers

I have a question : what is the difference between your UbuntuTop and a customized webtop2sd WebTop ? (I have webtop2sd with gnome 2.0)

 

[liquidhead]

Still no luck!

"webtop2sd is required for Atrix users because there is only 1.3MB free space otherwise"

First hit up the webtop2sd thread to figure out what's up because with it working, Ubuntop won't work.

Hi

Looks like the rom (NottachTrix4G - AIO Aroma Installer 1.3.1 [2.3.6][Blur][Multi-Lang]) was incompatible with webtop2sd

Have installed
[GB-ROM] [2.3.6] [Bell/INTL] [45.21.78] Tweaked Stock Blur With Webtop [Jun11]

webtop2sd now setup

have followed your instructions to the letter - but firefox will still not connect.

have rebooted and wiped cache too.

Now stuck!

Any help appreciated!

 

[troycarpenter]

I've been using webtop2sd with NottachTrix since its introduction. On the last fresh install, I had to relink busybox in the /etc/webtop2sd directory.

---------- Post added at 09:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:31 AM ----------

Thanks for your post! It is good to see that there are WebTop developers

I have a question : what is the difference between your UbuntuTop and a customized webtop2sd WebTop ? (I have webtop2sd with gnome 2.0)

I have the same question, and is it faster (like Gentop tries to be).

Also, do I need webtop2sd for the install, or can I install this to the internal partition first then move it with webtop2sd? Can I use my sd partition to extend certain directories to get more space (again like Gentop) instead of mirroring everything (like webtop2sd does).

 

[SaladOA]

Hi

Looks like the rom (NottachTrix4G - AIO Aroma Installer 1.3.1 [2.3.6][Blur][Multi-Lang]) was incompatible with webtop2sd

Have installed
[GB-ROM] [2.3.6] [Bell/INTL] [45.21.78] Tweaked Stock Blur With Webtop [Jun11]

webtop2sd now setup

have followed your instructions to the letter - but firefox will still not connect.

have rebooted and wiped cache too.

Now stuck!

Any help appreciated!

Unsure as to how similar our problems are, but my Firefox stopped working after I flashed to a CM9 ROM then returned to Nottachtrix again.

Ultimately I used Atrix Fastboot Tool to erase the Webtop partition then flashed a stock webtop through CWM. Perhaps try that and then install UbunTop.

 

[Lokifish Marz]

Lots of questions so let me try to get everything answered.

Thanks for your post! It is good to see that there are WebTop developers

I have a question : what is the difference between your UbuntuTop and a customized webtop2sd WebTop ? (I have webtop2sd with gnome 2.0)

First this is a unified base so you don't think of it as Atrix Ubuntop vs Electrify Ubuntop vs Photon Ubuntop. You have to think of it as Moto Tegra2 Ubuntop (I'm thinking I should rename it that). File for file it is the exact same as what's run on the Electrify and Photon. Advantages of a unified base are many. As long as I can get it to fit inside that 755MB cap the Atrix has, ANY tweaks or improvements made by ANYBODY in Moto Tegra2 community can be applied. Granted approval on both sides and proper credit will apply. The other advantage is that any major updates (like Ubuntu 10,11,12) that I can cram into that 755MB automatically become usable to all the Moto Tegra2 Webtop users!
The other main difference is that all the flashing and scripts to get to an unlocked webtop with synaptic and custom dock/desktop are already done. When you install OpenOffice what do you do? You launch synaptic, search for openoffice then go through and select packages. In Ubuntop, you launch synaptic, click file/read markings and select the openoffice file in the software folder. Take all the software listed in the OP, that's installed by selecting one preconfigured markings file. There are also things like over 150 config edits to Firefox alone that are permanent, a lot of moto crap has been removed.
To compared to what you probably have setup, Ubuntop will get you there far faster and with less time in terminal. In short, far more average user friendly. User friendly has been my goal since Ubuntop launched back in September of last year because Moto really screwed up what could have been an amazing product. Read this and you will understand my motives behind this.

Hi

Looks like the rom (NottachTrix4G - AIO Aroma Installer 1.3.1 [2.3.6][Blur][Multi-Lang]) was incompatible with webtop2sd

Have installed
[GB-ROM] [2.3.6] [Bell/INTL] [45.21.78] Tweaked Stock Blur With Webtop [Jun11]

webtop2sd now setup

have followed your instructions to the letter - but firefox will still not connect.

have rebooted and wiped cache too.

Now stuck!

Any help appreciated!

Ubuntop was deved on that very ROM. I do have a fix so I'm going to amend the install method for the Atrix in the OP. The install method should now be;
Flash Univ_Ubuntop_v1.0.0.zip via CWM
Reboot
*Atrix Users-Run webtop2sd
Launch Webtop+
Reboot into recovery and flash menupatch.zip
Relaunch Webtop+ and enjoy!

I have the same question, and is it faster (like Gentop tries to be).

Also, do I need webtop2sd for the install, or can I install this to the internal partition first then move it with webtop2sd? Can I use my sd partition to extend certain directories to get more space (again like Gentop) instead of mirroring everything (like webtop2sd does).

Right now I'm trying to get everybody on the same webtop base (WT-1.2.0-180) for the reason stated above. It does have a number of improvements over stock but has yet to be fully optimized. As nice as Gentop2 is, it's far larger than Ubuntop and has files spread all over the phone and SDCard. Try this and tell me how it goes;
Ignore any CWM backups you may have
Ignore your computer
Perform a factory reset (or format preinstall when ROM flashing)
Try to launch Gentop2
Try the same with Ubuntop (all that's needed is webtop2sd and the menupatch.zip to get you up and running again)

So Ubuntop's other main advantages are survivability after factory reset and install/distribution method.
(I have offered to make Gentop2 flashable and even provided a template.zip but have not heard back. I may make it flashable and simply give him the file. Yes I give dev work away, a lot actually.)

If you want to play with splitting up Ubuntop feel free but I have not done so for the reasons stated above.

 

[Lokifish Marz]

I hope you guys are submitting this to portal because if THIS can make it the is no reason why Ubuntop can't.

 

[ToonShadow]

Would we need to delete webtop2sd if we already have it installed or can we just flash and boot into webtop?

 

[Lokifish Marz]

Would we need to delete webtop2sd if we already have it installed or can we just flash and boot into webtop?

Open webtop2sd and go to the "execute" tab and click uninstall.
Unmount your sdcard and format it.
Reboot the phone and launch webtop2sd and treat it as if you had never run it before.

 

[Lokifish Marz]

How to set up Pidgin for GTalk and mastashake57's Webtop Exchange email (untested) added to the OP

 

[Ollonk]

I'm tempted to try this, but I have one major motivation in trying it.
Will it run a modern version of Chromium? My current webtop setup has an unbearably slow Firefox and due to a few outdated packages required to get webtop to boot, the newest version of Chromium that I can install from synaptic or otherwise without breaking my webtop is version 4. It crashes constantly, but it's still considerably faster than Firefox, despite the crashes.

What's the latest version of Chromium that Ubuntop can run on the Atrix?

 

[Lokifish Marz]

I'm tempted to try this, but I have one major motivation in trying it.
Will it run a modern version of Chromium? My current webtop setup has an unbearably slow Firefox and due to a few outdated packages required to get webtop to boot, the newest version of Chromium that I can install from synaptic or otherwise without breaking my webtop is version 4. It crashes constantly, but it's still considerably faster than Firefox, despite the crashes.

What's the latest version of Chromium that Ubuntop can run on the Atrix?

Define "unbearably slow". If you can give me some raw data it would be a big help.
I need to know Kernel/ROM (any additional settings,changes), addresses of test webpages, webpage load time, sunspider bench and so on. I will then duplicate your tests and post results.

The supported Chrome version is going to be the same.

Also if it helps. On the Photon running Joker/Imperium at 1.2GHz running Photon UbunTop v1.2, page loads and sunspider scores were about the same as the Dell mini 10 Z530 1.6GHz running firefox/safari/chrome. Testing was done back in Feb/Mar 2012. To be honest, the Dell mini 10 and similarly spec'd netbooks are a good indicator as to performance in many areas. Considering that Moto used a generic Ubuntu Jaunty ARM base from 2009, I'm surprised it performs as well as it does.

 

[aggrogade]

Files

Where are the download files, i dont see them on the site