Porting WP8 to Titan

[dragonide]

I still can't believe it myself too ...
But apparently DFT is managing to port WP8 on HD2 :

http://twitter.com/CotullaCode
http://www.wpcentral.com/against-all-odds-windows-phone-8-has-been-hacked-htc-hd2
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/windows_phone_8_ported_to_the_htc_hd2-11-29-12

"Hopefully more details will be coming out soon with an actual release because as you have probably figured out, if the HD2 can run Windows Phone 8, there might be a chance for Windows Phone 7 devices too."

I guess it is right to ask ourself such a question indeed.
I don't think HD2 has something Titan doesn't have.

Surely it would be interesting to understand what DFT really has really done.

In the meanwhile I'd like to know what our beloved Titan cookers think about this.

 

[Diepvriezer]

i hope so that windows phone 8 will port to HTC titan

 

[link68759]

Don't get your hopes up. It will never happen. I wish it would. What does the HD2 have that the titan doesn't? Drivers that are more or less open sourced with a team (DFT) that specializes in them.

 

[bartCZ]

I don´t think, that port to Titan never be. Titan have better HW than HD2. You´ll see, port for Titan will be Now, we only waiting ...

 

[link68759]

Many phones have hardware better than the HD2, that is completely irrelevant.

 

[bartCZ]

Many phones have hardware better than the HD2, that is completely irrelevant.

not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....

 

[Petulinek]

not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....

Titan isnt first series device WP, Titan and Radar are second series. First series are HD7, Omnia etc...

 

[Diepvriezer]

not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....

sorry HTC Titan is a Second serie of WP7

Second Windows Phone 7.5

HTC Titan
HTC Radar

First Windows Phone 7.0

HTC 7 mozart
HTC 7 pro
HTC 7 Surround
HTC HD7
HTC 7 Trophy

 

[bartCZ]

sorry HTC Titan is a Second serie of WP7

Second Windows Phone 7.5

HTC Titan
HTC Radar

First Windows Phone 7.0

HTC 7 mozart
HTC 7 pro
HTC 7 Surround
HTC HD7
HTC 7 Trophy

Yes, yes, you have right ... I mean, that except faster CPU is Titan the same device as hd7, tropy etc ......... I ´m wrong wrote it. My mystake.

 

[mikef]

Moved to General as there is nothing for the Titan at this point.

Thank you,
mf2112
XDA Moderator

 

[link68759]

Anyway, the point is the HD2 has drivers that can be worked with and a team of expert that specialize in it.

Titan has neither. Titan will not get WP8, don't get your hopes up.

 

[berrywr]

I found the photo of the HD2 a bit interesting; one the build number's last few digits were blacked out and did all the zeroes escape everybody? What I find curious is the Titan I is flashable, as of this typing the Titan II is not. I own both the HD2 and Titan and the Titan runs 7.8 much better than the HD2 though I have nothing but sincere admiration for the HD2; an incredible piece of hardware despite it's lack of memory.

 

[dragonide]

Don't get your hopes up. It will never happen. I wish it would. What does the HD2 have that the titan doesn't? Drivers that are more or less open sourced with a team (DFT) that specializes in them.

Do you have any proof of what you are saying ?

 

[link68759]

Well not "open sourced" but here's how it works (and all of this I have gathered from browsing XDA over the years):

In order to get android to work, someone had to either find drivers or reverse engineer something for the HD2 to get the hardware to work. This led to native ports of Ubuntu and Debian and MeeGo. Whatever was done, the previously closed drivers are now well understood enough to port it around to any linux. Then I've heard that the HD2 was a WP7 test device, and those drivers were leaked from HTC (I presume). That is the ONLY reason the HD2 has WP7. I imagine the leaked drivers aided the port to WP8.

Moreover I don't know if you follow DFT, but they have entirely rewritten and replaced the original bootloader and have added the ability to multi boot up to 32 (or some absurd number) different operating systems from multiple sources. They know the HD2 in and out.

It does not matter at all that other devices have better specs. Nearly any phone made after the HD2 has better specs. Specs are irrelevant. The HD2 is a special beast. In fact I don't think any other phone can even run android natively- all the android "ports" for other WM phones rely on HarEt, whereas the HD2 can run it natively... So afaik the HD2 is the only device that can natively run another OS.

Asking when *your* random phone is going to be able to do cool things like the phone that has *years* of community development behind it is rather self serving, a little ignorant and kind of annoying.

If you really want it to happen, put a bounty on it with a reward. Then maybe someone could work a miracle... If it were to be any Gen 2 windows phone, I suppose it would be the Radar or the Titan though, given that we have HSPL. But IMO the titan/radar are going to be left behind very quickly as the hacking scene transitions to WP8 devices.

 

[berrywr]

Well not "open sourced" but here's how it works (and all of this I have gathered from browsing XDA over the years):

In order to get android to work, someone had to either find drivers or reverse engineer something for the HD2 to get the hardware to work. This led to native ports of Ubuntu and Debian and MeeGo. Whatever was done, the previously closed drivers are now well understood enough to port it around to any linux. Then I've heard that the HD2 was a WP7 test device, and those drivers were leaked from HTC (I presume). That is the ONLY reason the HD2 has WP7. I imagine the leaked drivers aided the port to WP8.

Moreover I don't know if you follow DFT, but they have entirely rewritten and replaced the original bootloader and have added the ability to multi boot up to 32 (or some absurd number) different operating systems from multiple sources. They know the HD2 in and out.

It does not matter at all that other devices have better specs. Nearly any phone made after the HD2 has better specs. Specs are irrelevant. The HD2 is a special beast. In fact I don't think any other phone can even run android natively- all the android "ports" for other WM phones rely on HarEt, whereas the HD2 can run it natively... So afaik the HD2 is the only device that can natively run another OS.

Asking when *your* random phone is going to be able to do cool things like the phone that has *years* of community development behind it is rather self serving, a little ignorant and kind of annoying.

If you really want it to happen, put a bounty on it with a reward. Then maybe someone could work a miracle... If it were to be any Gen 2 windows phone, I suppose it would be the Radar or the Titan though, given that we have HSPL. But IMO the titan/radar are going to be left behind very quickly as the hacking scene transitions to WP8 devices.

I have to agree. I stopped flashing my smart phones for quite some time and just recently picked it up. The HD2 is that device we all wish every other device since could do. If there is to be a WP8 port, that is the device that will garner the most attention. Currently as of this typing, I have the NexusHD2 on that device. It isn't Samsung's mini-beast, the Galaxy S3 nor is it enabled with that beautiful touch screen, but the HD2 is a stud among steers. The day my HD2 is put to rest, it will be buried with honors.

 

[Pneumo]

Titan will not get WP8, don't get your hopes up.

Don't mind for me DO getting my hopes up

 

[berrywr]

Don't mind for me DO getting my hopes up

Patience, patience, patience. There is rumor there is a HTC Titan III, the HTC Zenith in the pipeline. I know there are many who have this philosophy that they must get their hands on the latest and state of the art devices. I don't doubt that Windows Phone 7 should have been what we now know is Windows Phone 8. There's nothing more irritating than the inability to not run programs like Skype as they do on Android and an overall general attitude that appears contrary to customer loyalty 101. Today (as of this typing) we do not know if the SPLs on the HTC 8X, Nokia Lumia 820 and 920 and future unknown devices in the pipeline will be akin to the HTC Titan II (Radiant) which remains unlockable. It is unlikely there will never be another device like the HD2 and for me, that is what is wrong with carriers and Microsoft in regards to the devices they sell within the United States and Canada; it is internationally how different and many of us wish we had their device hardware.