Possible dead NAND SCH-I605?

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Hey guys, I have a Galaxy Note II SCH-I605 that won't boot. It's stuck on the Galaxy Note II splash screen, and Odin is failing at NAND write start, Recovery menu has a bunch of stuff about not being able to mount /cache and /sdcard. I tried a lot of things, booting without external sdcard/simcard and trying to load my stock ROM with the external SD card and ADB which both don't work. I'm wondering if my NAND is fried and dead.

Any thoughts?

EDIT: This is my only phone, same phone I've had for 3 years plus. I reeeeally want to get this working again. I don't have the money to buy a new phone, and I have all my contacts and data on this one. I hope someone can lend a hand!
 

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Hey guys, I have a Galaxy Note II SCH-I605 that won't boot. It's stuck on the Galaxy Note II splash screen, and Odin is failing at NAND write start, Recovery menu has a bunch of stuff about not being able to mount /cache and /sdcard. I tried a lot of things, booting without external sdcard/simcard and trying to load my stock ROM with the external SD card and ADB which both don't work. I'm wondering if my NAND is fried and dead.

Any thoughts?

EDIT: This is my only phone, same phone I've had for 3 years plus. I reeeeally want to get this working again. I don't have the money to buy a new phone, and I have all my contacts and data on this one. I hope someone can lend a hand!
Try booting to recovery and factory reset and wipe cache and then try Odin again. Verify that you are using the correct stock firmware for your model number and your region.

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Try booting to recovery and factory reset and wipe cache and then try Odin again. Verify that you are using the correct stock firmware for your model number and your region.

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Thanks for your suggestions, I appreciate all help I can get. I have already tried Recovery Mode. I haven't had any success. Every time I attempt to launch recovery mode it won't launch the traditional way I am familiar with. It always takes a while to start, then goes into a picture of the Android with the spinning geometric shape, then it turns into a red triangle with an exclamation point. Then it has a bunch of red text show up on the screen about "E: failed to mount /efs (No such file or directory), E: Can't mount /cache/recovery/log, E: Can't open cache/recovery/log, E: failed to mount /system (No such file or directory), E: failed to mount /cache (No such file or directory), E: failed to mount /sdcard (No such file or directory)". I then get a blue menu with all the red text still in the background. I have 6 selections on this menu: reboot system now, apply update from ADB, apply update from external storage, wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache partition, apply update from cache. I've tried apply update from ADB, to which I can't get ADB to recognize my phone. I've tried loading my ROM on the external SD card, but the menu won't navigate to the external SD card and i get more additional red text stating E: failed to mount /sdcard (No such file or directory).

I've tried the laymans ways to flash the phone (I've rooted with GhettoRoot before, but recently reverted to a stock ROM about 2 months ago due to not having the time to stay on top of things so I'm familiar with all the standard troubleshooting. I'm out of the general options that I can think of.

I have tried flashing the stock ROM with Odin, but it always fails at NAND write start. I've tried different USB cables, and I'm using Odin 3.07. The stock ROM I have is good, I've used it before to recover a soft brick I had a year and a half ago (tried installing TWRP from the play store, didn't know about bootloaders back then).

If you have any other ideas on how to fix it, I would be happy to listen and try. I'm heading to Best Buy tomorrow (they're going to try to flash me with a stock ROM.)

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Thanks for your suggestions, I appreciate all help I can get. I have already tried Recovery Mode. I haven't had any success. Every time I attempt to launch recovery mode it won't launch the traditional way I am familiar with. It always takes a while to start, then goes into a picture of the Android with the spinning geometric shape, then it turns into a red triangle with an exclamation point. Then it has a bunch of red text show up on the screen about "E: failed to mount /efs (No such file or directory), E: Can't mount /cache/recovery/log, E: Can't open cache/recovery/log, E: failed to mount /system (No such file or directory), E: failed to mount /cache (No such file or directory), E: failed to mount /sdcard (No such file or directory)". I then get a blue menu with all the red text still in the background. I have 6 selections on this menu: reboot system now, apply update from ADB, apply update from external storage, wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache partition, apply update from cache. I've tried apply update from ADB, to which I can't get ADB to recognize my phone. I've tried loading my ROM on the external SD card, but the menu won't navigate to the external SD card and i get more additional red text stating E: failed to mount /sdcard (No such file or directory).

I've tried the laymans ways to flash the phone (I've rooted with GhettoRoot before, but recently reverted to a stock ROM about 2 months ago due to not having the time to stay on top of things so I'm familiar with all the standard troubleshooting. I'm out of the general options that I can think of.

I have tried flashing the stock ROM with Odin, but it always fails at NAND write start. I've tried different USB cables, and I'm using Odin 3.07. The stock ROM I have is good, I've used it before to recover a soft brick I had a year and a half ago (tried installing TWRP from the play store, didn't know about bootloaders back then).

If you have any other ideas on how to fix it, I would be happy to listen and try. I'm heading to Best Buy tomorrow (they're going to try to flash me with a stock ROM.)

Thanks
When you get the blue menu, have you tried the factory reset and the wipe cache and then flashing with Odin?

Have you tried finding the PIT file for your model number then flashing it along with the stock firmware in Odin. Those mount errors tell me that your partitions are corrupted somewhere, the PIT will make sure its flashing everything to the correct partition.

If you can find your firmware in a 4 part file you can flash them in Odin but you have to put each part of the firmware in the slot they go in when using Odin. This is different than having an all in one firmware, these you flash in the AP slot but the 4 part is not flashed in the AP slot.

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When you get the blue menu, have you tried the factory reset and the wipe cache and then flashing with Odin?

Have you tried finding the PIT file for your model number then flashing it along with the stock firmware in Odin. Those mount errors tell me that your partitions are corrupted somewhere, the PIT will make sure its flashing everything to the correct partition.

If you can find your firmware in a 4 part file you can flash them in Odin but you have to put each part of the firmware in the slot they go in when using Odin. This is different than having an all in one firmware, these you flash in the AP slot but the 4 part is not flashed in the AP slot.

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Yes, I have tried clearing the cache. I only get errors on not being able to mount /cache. I have just located a .pit file that says it's for SCH-I605. I will try to flash that with Odin. I'm using an old version of Odin because I didn't understand the newer ones. Last time I had to use it was about a year and a half ago, so I wasn't familiar with all the new fields in Odin 3.12.

I wasn't able to find many different links with the .pit file for the SCH-I605. I found one link that was still good, and I'm going to try it. I believe the file is 3k, which makes sense to me because it's just partition data.

I'll let you know how this works out.
 

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Yes, I have tried clearing the cache. I only get errors on not being able to mount /cache. I have just located a .pit file that says it's for SCH-I605. I will try to flash that with Odin. I'm using an old version of Odin because I didn't understand the newer ones. Last time I had to use it was about a year and a half ago, so I wasn't familiar with all the new fields in Odin 3.12.

I wasn't able to find many different links with the .pit file for the SCH-I605. I found one link that was still good, and I'm going to try it. I believe the file is 3k, which makes sense to me because it's just partition data.

I'll let you know how this works out.
Use the newer Odin and put the PIT in its own slot and the stock firmware in the AP slot. Do a search if you don't know where to put the PIT in Odin, also, make sure you have the correct options checked in Odin, if you select the wrong options it'll mess the device up.

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Well, I hope I didn't jump the gun. I did use the .pit file in Odin 3.07, I just saw your message about Odin 3.12. I loaded the PIT in the PIT slot, loaded my ROM in the PDAslot, and it seems to be taking a while on the <ID:0/003> Get PITfor mapping..
 

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Use the newer Odin and put the PIT in its own slot and the stock firmware in the AP slot. Do a search if you don't know where to put the PIT in Odin, also, make sure you have the correct options checked in Odin, if you select the wrong options it'll mess the device up.

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How long should it take for the "Get PIT for mapping.." part? I've been waiting about 8 minutes, and it's still on that step. I have a newer computer, i3 processor 16gb ram and I don't remember it taking this long before. Would I be safe to unplug if it takes much longer, or is it a bad idea since I'm using the PIT file?
 

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How long should it take for the "Get PIT for mapping.." part? I've been waiting about 8 minutes, and it's still on that step. I have a newer computer, i3 processor 16gb ram and I don't remember it taking this long before. Would I be safe to unplug if it takes much longer, or is it a bad idea since I'm using the PIT file?
Don't ever unplug it while flashing, that's a brick scenario for sure. You can cancel if it doesn't start the flash process, I'm not sure what results will be though.

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Don't ever unplug it while flashing, that's a brick scenario for sure. You can cancel if it doesn't start the flash process, I'm not sure what results will be though.

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Ok. It's still on this step, "Getting PIT for mapping.."

All the buttons are greyed out (can't click on them) so that tells me that the flash process is undertaking, but I can't understand why it's taking so long. I don't see my HDD light flashing, and Odin is using zero CPU in my resource monitor.

I'm wondering if my flash process is stuck and not progressing.
 

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Text in Odin so far..

<ID:0/003> File analysis..
<ID:0/003> SetupConnection..
<ID:0/003> Initialzation..
<ID:0/003> Set PIT file..
<ID:0/003> DO NOT TURN OFF TARGET!!
<ID:0/003> Get PIT for mapping..
 

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Ok. It's still on this step, "Getting PIT for mapping.."

All the buttons are greyed out (can't click on them) so that tells me that the flash process is undertaking, but I can't understand why it's taking so long. I don't see my HDD light flashing, and Odin is using zero CPU in my resource monitor.

I'm wondering if my flash process is stuck and not progressing.
Yep, its stuck, close Odin and then disconnect the device.

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Text in Odin so far..

File analysis..
SetupConnection..
Initialzation..
Set PIT file..
DO NOT TURN OFF TARGET!!
Get PIT for mapping..
Check this thread out and see if it helps

forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/general/guide-t2345831

Ignore that its from the S2 forum, its about Odin issues so it might help.

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Yep, its stuck, close Odin and then disconnect the device.

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---------- Post added at 10:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:31 PM ----------


Check this thread out and see if it helps

forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/general/guide-t2345831

Ignore that its from the S2 forum, its about Odin issues so it might help.

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Ok, I've closed Odin. I've disconnected my device. I've checked and yes, I can still enter download mode (phew, I don't have much hardmod skills to get it running if it's hard bricked).

I'm going to bring it in to Best Buy today and see if the Samsung staff can flash it there. I was running stock when this happened. It's crazy, I was driving my car and I had my phone in my mount on the dash. I just happened to look over and it was stuck on the boot screen. No warning. It just restarted and froze on it's own.

Thanks for the help, I'm going to keep working on it today and see if I can get things moving.
 

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Yep, its stuck, close Odin and then disconnect the device.

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---------- Post added at 10:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:31 PM ----------


Check this thread out and see if it helps

forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/general/guide-t2345831

Ignore that its from the S2 forum, its about Odin issues so it might help.

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Ok, so here's an update. I was able to send my stock ROM to my device using the ADB sideload option from the recovery menu, but was unable to load the ROM due to the partition being corrupted.

I attempted a flash in Odin 3.12.3 with the PIT file and my stock ROM in the AP slot. I haven't been able to obtain a ROM in 4 seperate parts like you had suggested, I'm only still using the ROM that I have had for a year or so. This flash fails at partitioning. Odin message: Re-Partition operation failed.

I scoped out the guide you linked to me for the S2, and from what I'm seeing they say that if Odin fails a partition operation there is no hope. Only thing I can do is get a new motherboard.

Looks like the phone is completely dead. I'll look on Ebay for a new MB, but I may just end up getting a new phone.

Thanks for the help man. Too bad we couldn't get it up and running. I'm probably going to still mess with it. Please let me know if you have any other suggestions.
 

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Ok, so here's an update. I was able to send my stock ROM to my device using the ADB sideload option from the recovery menu, but was unable to load the ROM due to the partition being corrupted.

I attempted a flash in Odin 3.12.3 with the PIT file and my stock ROM in the AP slot. I haven't been able to obtain a ROM in 4 seperate parts like you had suggested, I'm only still using the ROM that I have had for a year or so. This flash fails at partitioning. Odin message: Re-Partition operation failed.

I scoped out the guide you linked to me for the S2, and from what I'm seeing they say that if Odin fails a partition operation there is no hope. Only thing I can do is get a new motherboard.

Looks like the phone is completely dead. I'll look on Ebay for a new MB, but I may just end up getting a new phone.

Thanks for the help man. Too bad we couldn't get it up and running. I'm probably going to still mess with it. Please let me know if you have any other suggestions.
Don't give up yet, I'm not done with my bag of tricks.[emoji6]

There is a method that involves using a debrick.IMG to boot from extsdcard like using a bootable USB drive on PC.

forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660566


You'll have to find the debrick.IMG that was created from the same stock firmware that you have. If you can find someone with your same model number device that is rooted, you can get them to pull a debrick.img from their device using Terminal Emulator, you'll have to do a google search to find the terminal command for your model number to pull the debrick.img.

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Don't give up yet, I'm not done with my bag of tricks.[emoji6]

There is a method that involves using a debrick.IMG to boot from extsdcard like using a bootable USB drive on PC.

forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660566


You'll have to find the debrick.IMG that was created from the same stock firmware that you have. If you can find someone with your same model number device that is rooted, you can get them to pull a debrick.img from their device using Terminal Emulator, you'll have to do a google search to find the terminal command for your model number to pull the debrick.img.

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Wow man, that sounds good! Never heard of that before...I gotta admit though, I'm wondering what my chances are of finding someone with a Note 2 SCH-I605 that's rooted nowadays...I gotta admit my phone feels kind of ancient. I think it's going to be tough to find, but I will do some searches and look around. Thanks for the suggestion! I'll report back what I find.

Also, how do I do this method? If I find the file, do I load up recovery and try to load from SDcard?

UPDATE: Also, I tried enabling the Nand Erase All checkbox in Odin, and no dice. The error was that it failed to write to the NAND during the erase process. The more I mess with this the more I think my flash memory in the NAND is dead. I'm still completely open to your advice though and appreciate it very much.
 

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Wow man, that sounds good! Never heard of that before...I gotta admit though, I'm wondering what my chances are of finding someone with a Note 2 SCH-I605 that's rooted nowadays...I gotta admit my phone feels kind of ancient. I think it's going to be tough to find, but I will do some searches and look around. Thanks for the suggestion! I'll report back what I find.

Also, how do I do this method? If I find the file, do I load up recovery and try to load from SDcard?

UPDATE: Also, I tried enabling the Nand Erase All checkbox in Odin, and no dice. The error was that it failed to write to the NAND during the erase process. The more I mess with this the more I think my flash memory in the NAND is dead. I'm still completely open to your advice though and appreciate it very much.
If you did NAND erase all its dead. I started to warn you when you first mentioned NAND to leave it alone and don't mess with NAND in Odin. You can send it in for JTAG service, its usually $50 and they send it back to you fixed. Cheaper than replacing the motherboard. JTAG is the last ditch effort.

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If you did NAND erase all its dead. You can send it in for JTAG service, its usually $50 and they send it back to you fixed.

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I can still load to the Download screen. Does that mean that there's still hope? Or is the fact that the erase operation fails to write indicate that the flash hardware is bad like I've thought?

I also have thought about just getting a new mobo for it. Is there soldering involved in installing one? Also, is there some sort of hardware signing that will prevent me from installing a different mobo than was shipped with the phone?
 

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I can still load to the Download screen. Does that mean that there's still hope? Or is the fact that the erase operation fails to write indicate that the flash hardware is bad like I've thought?

I also have thought about just getting a new mobo for it. Is there soldering involved in installing one? Also, is there some sort of hardware signing that will prevent me from installing a different mobo than was shipped with the phone?
The mobo you have is shot. You can replace it yourself, no soldering involved unless the battery wires are soldered, if so, you'd have to solder that back on the new mobo. You have to get the same motherboard from the same model number you have, a different mobo will require altering your firmware. If you do it yourself just be careful disassembling the device.

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The mobo you have is shot. You can replace it yourself, no soldering involved unless the battery wires are soldered, if so, you'd have to solder that back on the new mobo. You have to get the same motherboard from the same model number you have, a different mobo will require altering your firmware. If you do it yourself just be careful disassembling the device.

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Great help. Thanks man. I think I'm going to look at new models and see about upgrading. I believe with all the battery problems on the Note 7 that Verizon is offering 0$ down as incentive to purchase one. I'll have to do my research, but it's listed as 36$ a month and I may be able to afford that. After I get a new phone, I'll do my best to get the old one working again (new mobo) and probably look to unload it on Ebay after it's up and running no problems. Either that or let my wife take tthe Note 2 over (She has an S3).

I'm bummed. Especially because this happened out of the blue. I was running stock ROM and phone rebooted out of the blue to the splash screen and BAM...dead. I've been able to recover devices before (I bricked a Stealth Trio 7 before and had to write .sh files to get the touch screen to work again), this is the first time I've been unable to fix an android device. Had to happen sometime.

Thanks again for your efforts.:highfive: