Praying (and Paying) for Root with Bounty

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FAUguy

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kaluna00

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I have been trying to update the spread sheet to keep people accountable for what they had pledged. If you have installed root using Tungkick's method please donate to him. If you have donated; Thank you for keeping your word! I encourage you all to do what you had promised. Donating the full pledge amount would be very appreciated as well. So far it is looking like Tungkick is well below the estimated value of what you all pledged. Please help make things right and follow through on your end.

IF YOU HAVE ALREADY DONATED PLEASE PM ME (with your name or email that comes through when you send a Paypal payment AND what XDA user name I should tie that donation to).

When you donate it would be helpful for you to put your XDA member name in the comments.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RKjJwtDOV-aBFjPTYHJb1PezPQvxff3y65I8qKRWJpM/edit?usp=sharing
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Coming from the Note 2, Note 3, and Note 4 Developer Edition, I'm hoping the LG V10 can be rooted and have an unlocked bootloader for custom ROMs. If not, I'll be sticking with my Note 4 DE even longer.

Yea same here...i will hold out a month or two after it comes out to see how the development scene will become
 

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I kinda wonder if the buyers of this device even care about such ?

verge said v10 is for content creators and g4 is for content consumers. if anything the consumer version is what people will tinker with.

the v10 should have everything you need ottb without having to futz around.

This is isn't a competitor to the note. i'm wondering what the g pro will be like.
 

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Why do you say it's not a competitor to the note? It's certainly a flagship+ type device? Not trying to argue, just want to know your thinking. I've been a note guy since the original, but now with the 5 and the fact that they got rid of sd storage (I'm a big fan of emulator gaming) and the removable battery, I'm shopping around. The V-10 looks to have everything I have with the note 4 (except the s-pen which is rarely used). And the V-10 has some style to it that makes it not look like every other phone out there right now.
 

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I tend to agree, I think this is a competitor to the Note series as well. If the only competition for the Note series are phones with a stylus, that doesn't leave much.

If you don't consider this to be a competitor, just curious as to which phones you belive are?

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Just curious as to what people think are the key reasons for rooting these days.
I have a note 3 and will be looking to upgrade to this when it comes to the UK.
My note 3 is rooted and I did it mainly to get more advance features for Tasker.
Now I very rarely use Tasker so don't think I will be rooting my next phone unless there is a good reason to?

Cheers
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For Titanium Backup app restoration, advanced features, choice of ROM with features or optimizations not present in stock firmwares, Xposed, adblockers on Web and YouTube, etc, etc...

You don't know why rooting? Don't do it. Or go with an iPhone... [emoji6]
 

gamin92

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Just saying if you don't want, don't do it. OR choose a closed system. There's choice.
Wasn't pointing you personally, just saying my thoughts about it.
Android is a great OS, mainly because you've got a full access to it, and can change/customize almost everything. Not rooting it may be OK for many users, but that's jumping beside the swimming pool. Just my point, as you asked our point about rooting devices...
 
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For Titanium Backup app restoration, advanced features, choice of ROM with features or optimizations not present in stock firmwares, Xposed, adblockers on Web and YouTube, etc, etc...

You don't know why rooting? Don't do it. Or go with an iPhone... [emoji6]

Hmph.

I'll say this. I have had my LG G3 for over a year and a half, that is longer than I have kept any phone since I began my Android venture with the G1. I had the G3 rooted for about 3 weeks. I have always had my devices rooted. I'll say this - though the option to root and unlock the bootloader would be very nice, I have found myself very fond of the LG UI - for a manufacturer UI skin, LG's takes the cake. Far less memory hungry than sense or TouchWiz, and the phone remains very snappy.

I have no need for root with the power of these devices now, the leaps and bounds in camera software, etc.

I think the software on these phones, while skin dependent can slow it down, has moved leaps and bounds past that of 3 years ago. There are some useful aspects of it. For instance, one major reason I and most others are looking heavily at this phone is the camera - well I have news for you if you didn't know - most of that is software driven, software that is not available on an AOSP based ROM. Sure, the phone might be a hair faster, but if you can't use the beautiful 16 MB camera on the back to it's full potential (The highlight of an amazing phone) is it even worth it?

Now, the answer might be yes to you, and it might even be a yes for me when I get the phone in my hands (if, lol), but I would bet that I am not alone in my stance, and I'm sure that there are others here that used to be flashaholics that no longer have a true need for it.

Of course, if you are using a Samsung device or HTC, sure I see a need because that OS skin is horrendous. BUT, with a phone with this hardware, with a fairly light skin, and from what I can see amazing camera software/hardware... Do you need to root this thing?


I suppose you can justify root without bootloader, however again, I do not need it thus probably won't go there.
I am not bashing you, simply stating where I come from now, and how my thoughts and needs have changed on the issue of ROM flashing in the last year with my still amazing G3.

I am only now looking for a new device because I felt this year would bring amazing devices... So far, the only two really worth looking at are the Nexus 6P - which is only available in the states through Google/Huwai, and this V10. Maybe the OnePlus 2. Maybe.


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I'm using Xperia Z2, since mid 2014. I'm still on stock based firmware. As you stated, camera, as well as audio performance, are better with stock based roms than with aosp based roms. But there's many rom cookers taking stock brand firmware as base, but add many features, or great optimizations.
Even my wife, who doesn't know anything about android and OS stuffs, needs root. Why? Simply because there's always a bunch of bloatware, or apps not needed because you're using one for years doing the same thing in a better/more suitable way.
I agree that unlocking the bootloader isn't so useful anymore, just a flash and test junky thing. But root is so helpful in many ways. Just one thing why I couldn't use phone without root : all those terrible ads everywhere, on the web and on YouTube. Soooo annoying. Used my phone 2 weeks before rooting, I was going crazy just about ads here, ads there, ads everywhere!

Edit : installing an alternative launcher already keep you away from most of worst things of "skins" from brands.
 
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I'm using Xperia Z2, since mid 2014. I'm still on stock based firmware. As you stated, camera, as well as audio performance, are better with stock based roms than with aosp based roms. But there's many rom cookers taking stock brand firmware as base, but add many features, or great optimizations.
Even my wife, who doesn't know anything about android and OS stuffs, needs root. Why? Simply because there's always a bunch of bloatware, or apps not needed because you're using one for years doing the same thing in a better/more suitable way.
I agree that unlocking the bootloader isn't so useful anymore, just a flash and test junky thing. But root is so helpful in many ways. Just one thing why I couldn't use phone without root : all those terrible ads everywhere, on the web and on YouTube. Soooo annoying. Used my phone 2 weeks before rooting, I was going crazy just about ads here, ads there, ads everywhere!

Edit : installing an alternative launcher already keep you away from most of worst things of "skins" from brands.

Precisely. I understand and echo everything you point out. I have always used Nova Launcher.

Yes, bloatware is a problem. However, besides that, I really don't have a need for root in general, it's just a fun thing to have and mess with. I don't like messing with my phone much anymore since I have important things on my plate, calendar, phone calls, etc.

I don't understand why people say they love ad blocker, I haven't had an issue with ads, in fact I don't see many AT ALL, and I don't have mine rooted...

I see the most in the TapaTalk app, other than that nothing really...
 

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I have always rooted every one of my devices dating back to my og. That said, it seems it's getting harder and harder to gain root on some of these new devices. Doesn't Xposed work on non rooted devices? If so, won't that along with a new launcher satisfy the craving for root? I'm asking because my next phone will probably be the V10 and I'm fearful root might not be gained.

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    SInce apparently the frustration of lack of root is bringing out anger issues in some, this thread is going into a time-out for awhile. If someone has root progress to post about you can PM me or any moderator for this section to open the thread,

    It is damn selfish of some posters here to believe this is the only damn device in the whole world that doesn't have root or that any security expert should put their entire life on hold to work tirelessly and 24/7 on root just for YOU! Do you expect a developer to cancel a lecture tour which pays $50,000 per lecture for some pennies you are throwing at them? Or expect another developer not to accept an offer of $100,000 for a root solution in the private sector with a NDA, for the same pennies or "just" to be a hero now and then you turn and call them all sorts of names and selfish when they don't swoop in and root your next phone 1 day after you get it? Time for those poster to take a good, hard look into that mirror and realize you are not the center of the universe.

    THINK, RESEARCH and don't buy a device that is locked down!!!! Google, LG, Samsung, etc have multi-million dollar investments in engineering to make devices secure as possible since these are portable personal computers and assistants. They have your complete information and financial data on them....how much would you cry if you were wiped out financially because someone hacked your phone? They don't give a rat's ass about the 0.25% rooting development community! They are looking out for the other 99.75% of consumers that want the most secure device. So get used to praying and waiting for root because it may be a thing of the past soon in the future.

    /end rant

    Edit: Thread reopened. Let's keep it civil and positive!!! Thanks!
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    Alright this is what I've been able to come across so far and I've had a few people ask me for this file so please give me some credit. Now I will say this is the first time I've been able to get this in depth on trying to assist with a phone. Also remember that this file was taken from the VS99011B_04_ARB00.kdz which I believe is the update that was downloaded from the Verizon Software Assistant on Windows.

    I was able to download this file using the Verizon Software Assistant application. I found this file under C:\LGMobileUpgrade\LGMOBILEAX\phone

    Once I found this file I was able to do some more research and came across this program
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600575

    Which I downloaded the program and used the .KDZ file to extract these files

    VS99011B04.dz -- 2.17 GB
    LGUPCommon.dylib -- 1.02 MB
    LGUPCommon.dll -- 2.69 MB

    Once I was able to use the program listed above, the program also allows you to extract the .DZ file into the attached photo listed as VS990.jpg

    I downloaded a version of LG G4 .KDZ and did the same process, also uploaded a photo of those contents and they seem to be very alike. Just wish I knew if I was on the right path and giving out good information. Please let me know whether or not this information is correct or if it is not so that I can take it down and not misdirect anyone. Maybe someone like @jcase @i42o @fire3element @Evolutionmods could let me know after taking a look at everything that I've found and give any additional direction or information....
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    Alright so the Verizon Repair Assistance now has the option for repairing this phone. Anyone know where and what type of files this downloads to the computer to repair the phones?

    Ok after lots of looking around and some lucky timing, I was able to find the .KDZ file for the update VS99011B_04_ARB00.kdz
    After finally finding this file, I was able to do some more searching and find a way to extract 3 files from this .KDZ

    VS99011B04.dz -- 2.17 GB
    LGUPCommon.dylib -- 1.02 MB
    LGUPCommon.dll -- 2.69 MB

    I'm not sure where this currently puts the forum at but I haven't given up. The next step I would like to do is, a full repair of the Verizon LG V10 (VS990) so that the Verizon Software Assistant is able to download the full .KDZ file of the phone which would be a much larger file and I'm only guessing would have more then just three files in it. Anyone willing to tell me if I'm onto something or just completely way off? I'm also unsure where to upload these files so that the download link is not taken down. Given this is only the update and not the full .KDZ file, I refuse to give up and keep trying.

    After taking the VS99011B04.dz file and extracting the contents of this file, it seems that there is much userdata files within this file. So this must mean that I would need to completely wide my phone, download the update or full .KDZ before I can upload and share these files. I'm thinking that this data is being saved within the file to not lose any information during the update process and I wouldn't be willing to share this until I attempt a full wipe and see if the same file structure and userdata was included in a wiped version.
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    How's that coming by the way?

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    I'm just waiting to get some files from tungkick but I'm 95% certain once I get the files I'll have a way to unlock the bootloader

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    Just like, you shouldnt be able to drive a car if you don't know how to replace the engine.

    This line of thinking is borderline retarded.


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