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Primary Windows Live Messenger Thread (LAST UPDATED: 11-JAN-10)

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CommanderThor

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Jan 22, 2009
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Maybe try downloading live messenger application from Marketplace, there is one version, that was added only recently.

And if you don't have Wifi to try, try connection mobile phone to computer and use computers internet connection instead.
 

atomiq

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Jan 19, 2010
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this is the worst app to use windows live messenger
it freezes up my task bar or sometimes the whole phone

I DON NOT RECOMEND THIS

let's wait for a decent version..

for now we should all use palringo app

thanks.
 

Habib Molaska

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Nov 1, 2009
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It worked flawlessly through an activesync connection. I tried 30 minutes and it was all ok. I'll try a little bit later today a couple of hours and see how it goes. But for now I have to assume it workes and that somehow it is my phone's data connection that are screwed? But internet is always on according to the phone itself..!

Edit: I might add that I did indeed download the latest version of today, directly from microsofts site AND I made sure to download the english version too. But that didn't make any difference.

Edit #2: I can have the data connection linger for a while by enabling different sync options, for instance live's sync feature. And also set my ordinary outlook mobile mail to sync every five minutes. But doing this makes the messenger sign me out by itself. It will show a message something like: "You have been inactive for too long, so messenger signed you out." Now that's spooky.
 
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CommanderThor

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Jan 22, 2009
115
13
Ljubljana
@atomiq
Well for me it is different i find Live Messenger the only MSN program, that works nice.

For example it is the only one i know, that send new messege alert ONLY when you are not inside the app itself. Others like fring send new messege alert even while chating! unaceptable.

Maybe soundy funny, but that alone is the reason i don't want to go to Anroid, i found tha Live Messenger for Windows Mobile or for Nokia is the only program that does that, i CAN NOT have phone ringing while i chat omg...

Maybe Paralingo does this? Couse i never heard of it before...


@Habib Molaska, maybe you should try another program for MSN, like Fring to see if it disconetcs you there also. But still i don't understand why you have this problem...
Maybe somehow connected to me Remote Desktop problem? It disconetcs me after abaut 15 second, randomly actualy... I just hate that! It's such a nice remote desktop app. I rly hope WM7 will brong a looot of improvement for this apps.
 

qtek_metanol

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May 5, 2007
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AM i the only one with this problem ?
I will donate 20 USD for the one who solves this problem

Hi, you are no the only one with that problem, formers WLM versions were available to support the option "Copy & Paste" from the Dialog-Windows, but sadly Microsoft did not support this property anymore, the same happens when you receive inks over WLM, they are not active linked to the available browser.

A new WLM Version (11.1) can be downloaded from MARKTPLACE:

http://marketplace.windowsphone.com...7d2-59e0-44a5-8f4a-a7577d4982b1&wa=wsignin1.0

greetings
Metanol
 
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Habib Molaska

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Nov 1, 2009
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Well that isn't 11.1. Windows Marketplace says it is, but not the application. The application says it's 10.7. Have a look at the attached ScreenShot27.jpg.

Either way, just gave Agile a try, as did I Beejive. The latter are having the same issues as 99 % of all the IM clients out there; it cannot accept messages sent from strangers or from my website plugin. Thus making the applications useless to me. Agile could do just that on the other hand, but had the same connection issues live messenger displayed so I really didn't win anything by using it. It looked aweful too.

Either way, I've been doing some trial and error reasarch on this thing and I can only come to one conclusion. Live messenger mobile keeps droping my connection, even if I have the phone connected through Wi-Fi or activesync. For the most part, I get a message saying "The wireless network is not available right now. Messenger is trying to re-establish a connection". Have a look at the attached ScreenShot38.jpg. Once and only once, did I manage to get a really strange message that said something about me being thrown out because I had been inactive for too long!? Either way, I haven't managed to reproduce this message.

The messenger seems to stay alive for 1 to 29 minutes (at least for the most part), but 30 minutes or more and it's completly dead. I have set my ordinary outlook mobile to send/recieve items each and every fifth minute. My facebook linked contacts are getting updated by the phone once every second hour. The weather data are being synced every hour. And last but not least; Windows Live itself is set to sync my e-mail as "items arrive" (have a look at screenshot 25 and 26). However, in the live main window I more often then seldom see the message that "synchronization failed". It could be due to the fact that I don't have an hotmail account at all so I just don't bother about it that much (see screenshoot 29!).

I have sent HTC and Microsoft e-mails and are currently waiting for their reply. I also called my operator multiple times but even when I got hold of a male he couldn't give me any answers. One strange thing though and what I'm about to go out and try even more is that I got live messenger to stay alive and recieve an instant message even after 30 minutes when I had all three live windows open and running in the background (the third window: ScreenShot4.jpg and ScreenShot33.jpg). But then again, I've managed to recieve an instant message when the phone was connected to the PC through the USB cable before and draw a wrong conclusion. As it showed, one time of success is more likely nothing than a lucky shoot. I'm haunted by these issues whatever I do.

Dear reader, even if you do not have any problems that you know of, please reply with your insights and thoughts. It could be that you're just not aware of your problem. Sometimes when I turn my display on too see wtzup I notice that live messenger is "updating the contact list" (ScreenShot7.jpg), and then shortly thereafter I recieve a hole lot of messages when it's done. Now that tells me that messenger was indeed dead untill I had a look!

It is also of vital importance to me to know if you're for instance running the HDSPA feature of the phone disabled or any other setting that might do the trick. Also, the very most important thing for me, is to have a complete review of any HTC Touch Pro2 user out there, who are successfully or unsuccessfully using their live messenger software. Am I really the only one on this planet!?

One more thing on my mind is that live messenger seems to work flawlessly whenever that "H" is displayed in the notification area. Whenever there's a "3G" I have issues. So, how to set the phone to only use that H-thingy?

And one more thing, I even flashed my rom to the latest EnergyROM. You guessed it. Didn't help!
 

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CommanderThor

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Jan 22, 2009
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H icen is supposed to show only when a lot of date is passing thrue. Couse it uses too much battery to be always connected with HSDPA. I always turn HSDPA off for more battery anyway, if i do use 3G at all.
 

CommanderThor

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Jan 22, 2009
115
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Ljubljana
As i said before, cause of battery i go to 2G mode(GSM) With that battery last almost twice as long compared to 3G. The downside is slover download speed and the fack that when you get a call or SMS, data connection is broken. But for me Live Messenger reconnects the second i finish my phone call, or with SMS it just stays signed in.

I turn 3G only temporary when i watch youtube or i know i will be browsing a lot.
 

Habib Molaska

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Nov 1, 2009
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The story continues.

This is the continued saga of how I'm fighting desperatly to achive the ultimate goal: How to live chat with my customers on my site, directly on my mobile phone AND manage to make it stay alive and recieve the new messages instantly.

I mailed HTC and Microsoft live support, the first one sent a stupid reply back and I had to ask the question a second time. Still, after a few days, they haven't replied and I do not think they will either. Microsoft on the other hand replied at once and asked me to try another live account, and try my own live account in a messenger running in another mobile phone.

I do not know of anyone who run a windows mobile phone in order for me to test my account on another phone, but I did create a new account and even had the live application sync a real working live e-mail account "as items arrive", without any success. So I sent the results back to Microsoft and got an somewhat disturbing answer. Depending on their answer of my latest reply I might report back here the full content of this dialogue I've had with Microsoft.

Anyways.. I also know that Microsoft aren't the only guys out there trying to put their instant messaging services online at different sites and blogs. Google and their G-talk is another option. Apparently, Yahoo offer some form of a live chat plugin to their IM too. But for know I'm doing research and trials of Googles solution.

If I have G-talk running its desktop client in my ordinary PC, everything works fine. What G-talk do is to establish an 100 % web based link between the two parts that chat with eachother. The trouble arrives when I try to run G-talk in my phone. Google do not themselves have a mobile version of their G-talk application. But a lot of services do offer cross plattform solutions for running IM services such as G-talk. The problem is that a very few of them are getting the message from strangers on the web who aren't in the contact list. The two I've found that work in this maner is Nimbuzz and OctroTalk.

However, the message that Googles messaging service send out to the client are nothing else then a giant huge hyperlink. Nimbuzz can't open that link, nothing happens when I click it. OctroTalk does, but then the next problem arrives. When google are trying to establish the webbased link between my customer at the site and myself, the feature requires adobe flash. My windows phone does come with Adobe Flash Lite, but this package isn't recognised. So I'm quite stuck here. Adobe have anounced that the big suite of Adobe Flash 10.1 will be made available to mobile phones sometime this year, but currently there aren't any "mobile" betas floating around.

Anyone know how to successfully establish a way of having Google Talk's Chatback thing work on a windows based mobile phone? Man I'm desperate.

I'll continue to report back on my live messenger issue and my big goal to be able to to live chat with my customers on my site directly on my phone in a very reliable way. One might have missed my earlier statements in this thread and wonder what the problem is with the priced solutions available on the market, so to repeat myself: Live messenger, Google Talk, Yahoo etc., they do not log my customers IP and their activities on my website. I do believe passionately that the customer of tomorrow aren't dumb in any way and do not want their integrety to be compromised in any way. Particularly not as in my case when what I will sell demands a high level of confidentiality.

Stay tuned and please please give me feedback, I can't do this on my own. What are YOUR experience from using the live messenger on your windows mobile phone and what settings, tweaks & hacks have you found to work really good in making the connection stay alive and active?

Edit: I might have missed to explain in a more detailed maner how the Google solution works. It works in this way: I who want to put the service on my site, get a code from google to paste in the HTML code of my website. This add a "badge" as Google calls it and the badge itself is very customizable. It is better then the live messenger live chat plugin in the way that my customer are thrown into the live chat directly after clicking on the link. No need to enter encrypted letters and numbers that not even a science professor can read correctly without having failed a number of times before success as one has to do with the live messenger plugin (a feature implemented to remove bots, but shouldn't I have the ability to add that feature if and WHEN I am starting to have trouble with the bots?). Also, the google live chat are way more communicative than the live plugin. It reports back to the customer when the host joins the chat (and equally when he doesn't) and when the host are typing etc. Not to mention that the Google logotype are more colorful than the windows live old school logo.

Anyways, so when my customer click the link another window opens with the chat module. On my desktop client I recieve a new message, not repliable in any way. This message are from google and ask me to follow a link. When I do that my computer opens this link in a new window and at this page, a button is displayed which I have to click in order to launch my chat module. After having made two clicks I thereafter are thrown into an chat module that looks exactly as the customers interface. This works great indeed on my pc, but not on my phone since the latest Adobe Flash Lite suite doesn't support it.
 
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Die Bruine

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Jan 2, 2008
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10.7.0060.2300.3000 connection problems

Ever since 10.7.0060.2300.3000 I have connection issues. Whenever I leave my phone on standby for a couple of hours (sometimes less than 1,5) MSN is disconnected. I get the message you have been idel, have been disconnected. If I try to reconnect it won't work. I can turn on and turn off flightmode, change phone mode, try whatever but the only thing that will work is soft-reset my phone. I have tried this with two different providers and changed bands. But that shouldn't be the problem since I also have this problem when I use WiFi. After a couple of hours standby MSN is disconnected and it won't reconnect unless I soft-reset the phone. Connection problems is al it says. But that's bull because I can browse the internet and get weather updates. Surely I can't be the only one with this problem? I have tried two different RadioROMs and at least 10 different OS ROMs.
 

Habib Molaska

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Nov 1, 2009
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lol, you and me both brodda. But I don't have to reboot, all I have to do is to turn on the display and msn will start the reconnection process at once. I got an answer from microsoft that a lot of people are reporting the same issues and "hopefully" it will be resolved soon. I couldn't get any more info than that. From the sound of it, this tech was just playing me and didn't wanna bother anymore. It's sad for sure. Year 2010 and we still can't be mobile with our IM client.
 

gilat001

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Sep 2, 2009
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Ever since 10.7.0060.2300.3000 I have connection issues. Whenever I leave my phone on standby for a couple of hours (sometimes less than 1,5) MSN is disconnected. I get the message you have been idel, have been disconnected. If I try to reconnect it won't work. I can turn on and turn off flightmode, change phone mode, try whatever but the only thing that will work is soft-reset my phone. I have tried this with two different providers and changed bands. But that shouldn't be the problem since I also have this problem when I use WiFi. After a couple of hours standby MSN is disconnected and it won't reconnect unless I soft-reset the phone. Connection problems is al it says. But that's bull because I can browse the internet and get weather updates. Surely I can't be the only one with this problem? I have tried two different RadioROMs and at least 10 different OS ROMs.

Same problem on my htc pure. Can't wait for a new version of windows live, this new version has too many connection issues. :confused:

Can anybody suggest a stable version? Thanks
 
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CommanderThor

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Jan 22, 2009
115
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Ljubljana
Hm, does anybody know another IM application, that has tabbed contact+ function, to only "beep" when you don't have application open? Fring not any other that i tried don't have this functionality, but this Live Messenger has problems with disconecting...
 

Habib Molaska

Member
Nov 1, 2009
47
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Try Palringo, worked great, looked great and had lesser connectivity problems than live messenger. Only problem was that it didn't accept incoming chat requests from my live plugin on my website so I had to stop using it. I will go for Google Talk instead but I haven't found a reliable way for me to always bring with me my website's live chat module in the pocket wherever I go. One thing could be to have my computer running 24/7 at home since I can always remote desktop, but I still need it to notify me whenever I get that chat request.